Minor?

[Rowan Marie]

Hello,
I am 17-years-old and would like to go to Freezer Burn 2012.
I will be camping with people from age 18 to 47.
Do I need a parent or guardian with me or may I go with my group of
adult friends?

Thank you for reading this post,

Rowan

[Rowan Marie]

[Tom]

Hi Rowan, to sign the waivers required at the gate of the event you will need to be 18 years old or have your parent or guardian with you at the time.  

I can not break the rules for you.  Talk your parents into coming with you.  

Cheers,

EZT

[Rowan Marie]

What about a Temporary Guardianship Form?
What that form does is assign someone who will be camping with me who
is over 21 my legal guardian for the event. They can sign a waiver for
me, sign medical forms, etc. Would that be applicable?

Thank you for your help,

Rowan

On Jan 3, 10:56 am, Tom <carlile....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Rowan, to sign the waivers required at the gate of the event you will
> need to be 18 years old or have your parent or guardian with you at the
> time.
>
> I can not break the rules for you.  Talk your parents into coming with you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> EZT
>

[Sean Thompson]

"Was this signed by your parents legal guardian?"
"Yessir! Scout's Honor!"

[Sean Thompson]

(Though as long it's properly notarized and follows the appropriate legal forms, that doesn't sound like it'd be a bad workaround. Not that I have any say.)

[Jessica]

I just wanted to give props to this radically self reliant teen. Kudos, Rowan. 

Gyesika "Weeble" Safety

[Jon Morris]

as long as the temp guardian letter is notarized, the person(s) named on the form can sign any waiver that the actual guardian could. It is a slippery slope though when it comes to validating the notary's credentials. i would be more in favor of requiring at least one of the parents to come with their teenager and friends so that the parent could be witnessed signing the appropriate forms by event staff so that there is no chance of it coming back to be a bogus signature..

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Sean Thompson <ridcu...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Brently]

Here's two cents that doesn't need to be thrown in, but since no one asked, though I'd do it anyway.

 In the state of Texas...When parents in Texas are interested in voluntarily appointing a temporary guardian with limited powers for their minor child(ren), they file a sworn written temporary guardian application in probate court. A hearing will be scheduled within 10 days of the court receiving the application.

The appointment of a temporary guardian is normally reserved for emergent situations that satisfy the discretion of the court. (And that's more than likely the only document that would hold up in a court)

 Bear in mind also that having a minor on property without their appropriate legal guardian presents a huge risk to the landowner and those running the event itself.

 You may not realize but it's a risk anytime there is a minor at one of these events. Under Texas State Law anything that can be construed as a an attempt to initiate sexual contact IN FRONT of a minor means said parties can be prosecuted as sex offenders. Even people making out in front of a minor COULD be used against them, let's not even think about any pictures.

 Then there is the issue of injury. We're burning a 15 foot tall effigy, and some of us will probably be more than a little inebriated at the time.

 Let's not forget that we had a small issue at Orfunner regarding an underage teenage (with parents there) and had to eject a person from the event because there where issues regarding sexual whatever... 

 It all boils down to the what the Freezerburn host decides, and I fully support the steps necessary to protect the landowner, the host, and the volunteers.

  There's my unwarranted two cents... Not that it matters for shit. :)

 Sorry to be the adult voice too, it's not usually the case...

-Brently

[Treg Taylor]

make sure to include a statement about medical decisions in the temp guardian letter.

[Gwen Day]

Actually, that's not really necessary. The minor would be treated with implied consent and all the usual stops pulled out if life/limb threatened. The minor can't refuse care, the temp guardian isn't burden with high stakes calls - that's a huge responsibility for a "friend of the family" and possibly not deciding in the family's interest and/or not knowing the whole picture (allergies, med history, preferences). Just make sure mom & dad can be reached in case of emergency.  But if they aren't available, Rowan would still get treatment, even emergency surgery if necessary. 

I'd never give anyone temp control over my kid's medical decisions... I better be contacted and consulted, not find out after the fact he was taken in and got 25 stitches to the chin. "what do u mean you told them don't worry about X-rays?"

And yay for the radical self reliance! Hope u get permission and are able to join us! Tell the parents we'll keep a close eye on you and not let you get into too much trouble. Ha!

--Gwen Day

Sent from the black, infinite void. 

[Brently]

I applaud the radical self reliance too, and the amount the community is stepping up to show support. There is still the matter that the FB host said No...

Gwen are you coming out to play with us next weekend?

[Gwen Day]

Not this time :( however, I will be visiting ATX again the following weekend :)

--Gwen Day

Sent from the black, infinite void.