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Pradeep B V
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Some pertinent questions..
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From: Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory <ede...@greenidea.eu>
Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [WorldCityBike] Re: [LotsLessCars] Making city bikes work: Just in case you may have the idea that this is easy.
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eric britton wrote:
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From: Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory <ede...@greenidea.eu>
Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Subject: [WorldCityBike] Re: [LotsLessCars] Making city bikes work: Just in case you may have the idea that this is easy.
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Hi,
I am curious... never mind the reality... who is perceived as the owner
of Velib?
* JCDecaux?
* City of Paris?
* PEOPLE of Paris?
* No one?
* One or more of the above?
Do abusers of the bikes get asked why they did it?
>From scratched windows on public transport vehicles, to little bits
of
trash everywhere, destroying the public environment is quite...
popular. And we all know that Old Mobility destroys it even more:
Noise, exhaust emissions, injuries, deaths, space displacement.
The most successful (and enjoyable) solution to dis-organised graffiti
or tagging seems to be organised graffiti or better yet, murals
(ideally with citizen participation)... this makes the public space
"owned" by the people (not a multi-national, not the government...)
SO, If citizens, potential (ab)users, and so on "own" public bikes
will it make a difference? This could mean:
* City owning the bikes, ideally paying for them from fees on car
driving...
* The colour scheme and other design elements for individual or groups
of bikes for citywide circulation decided by people in various
neighbourhoods.
- T
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This is what came today in BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7881079.stm
Thefts puncture Paris bike scheme
A popular bicycle rental scheme in Paris that has transformed travel
in the city has run into problems just 18 months after its successful
launch.
Over half the original fleet of 15,000 specially made bicycles have
disappeared, presumed stolen.
They have been used 42 million times since their introduction but
vandalism and theft are taking their toll.
The company which runs the scheme, JCDecaux, says it can no longer
afford to operate the city-wide network.
Championed by Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe, the bikes were part of an
attempt to "green" the capital.
Parisians took to them enthusiastically. But the bikes have suffered
more than anticipated, company officials have said.
Vélib extreme
Hung from lamp posts, dumped in the River Seine, torched and broken
into pieces, maintaining the network is proving expensive. Some have
turned up in eastern Europe and Africa, according to press reports.
Since the scheme's launch, nearly all the original bicycles have been
replaced at a cost of 400 euros ($519, £351) each.
The Velib bikes - the name is a contraction of velo (cycle) and
liberte (freedom) - have also fallen victim to a craze known as "velib
extreme".
Various videos have appeared on YouTube showing riders taking the
bikes down the steps in Montmartre, into metro stations and being
tested on BMX courses.
Remi Pheulpin, JCDecaux's director general, says the current contract
is unsustainable. "It's simple. All the receipts go to the city. All
the expenses are ours," he said.
The costs, he said, were "so high that a private business cannot
handle it alone, espcially as it's a problem of public order. If we
want the velib set-up to keep going, we'll have to change the business
model," he told Le Parisien newspaper.
Customised
The original contract gave the advertising company a 10-year licence
to exploit 1,600 city-wide billboards in return for running the
scheme, plus a share in the revenue, estimated at 20m euros for the
first year of operation.
City hall has recently agreed to pay towards the costs of replacing
the stolen or trashed bicycles but is refusing to bail out the
company.
Not all the bicycles receive rough treatment however. One velib
repairman reported finding one of the bikes customised with fur
covered tyres.
The scheme was modelled on one in Lyon, which appears to have been
less troublesome, and has been extended to other cities in France.
It is also being copied overseas with London, San Francisco and
Singapore all intending to set up similar schemes.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/7881079.stm
Published: 2009/02/10 16:09:44 GMT
2009/2/11 Pradeep B V <prad...@gmail.com>:
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akash
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7881079.stm
Thefts puncture Paris bike scheme
A popular bicycle rental scheme in Paris that has transformed travel
in the city has run into problems just 18 months after its successful
launch.
Over half the original fleet of 15,000 specially made bicycles have
disappeared, presumed stolen.
They have been used 42 million times since their introduction but
vandalism and theft are taking their toll.
The company which runs the scheme, JCDecaux, says it can no longer
afford to operate the city-wide network.
Championed by Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe, the bikes were part of an
attempt to "green" the capital.
Parisians took to them enthusiastically. But the bikes have suffered
more than anticipated, company officials have said.
Vélib extreme
Hung from lamp posts, dumped in the River Seine, torched and broken
into pieces, maintaining the network is proving expensive. Some have
turned up in eastern Europe and Africa, according to press reports.
Since the scheme's launch, nearly all the original bicycles have been
replaced at a cost of 400 euros ($519, £351) each.
The Velib bikes - the name is a contraction of velo (cycle) and
liberte (freedom) - have also fallen victim to a craze known as "velib
extreme".
Various videos have appeared on YouTube showing riders taking the
bikes down the steps in Montmartre, into metro stations and being
tested on BMX courses.
Remi Pheulpin, JCDecaux's director general, says the current contract
is unsustainable. "It's simple. All the receipts go to the city. All
the expenses are ours," he said.
The costs, he said, were "so high that a private business cannot
handle it alone, espcially as it's a problem of public order. If we
want the velib set-up to keep going, we'll have to change the business
model," he told Le Parisien newspaper.
Customised
The original contract gave the advertising company a 10-year licence
to exploit 1,600 city-wide billboards in return for running the
scheme, plus a share in the revenue, estimated at 20m euros for the
first year of operation.
City hall has recently agreed to pay towards the costs of replacing
the stolen or trashed bicycles but is refusing to bail out the
company.
Not all the bicycles receive rough treatment however. One velib
repairman reported finding one of the bikes customised with fur
covered tyres.
The scheme was modelled on one in Lyon, which appears to have been
less troublesome, and has been extended to other cities in France.
It is also being copied overseas with London, San Francisco and
Singapore all intending to set up similar schemes.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/7881079.stm
Published: 2009/02/10 16:09:44 GMT
2009/2/11 Pradeep B V <prad...@gmail.com>:
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