Dialoguing on Broader Issues

[Bradley]

from "Testing and GVRD Topology Problems"

I thought that it is clearer to put the changed nature of the dialogue
into a fitting forum name. So here we are...

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from Mike West:

i would prefer to discuss some broader issues, as the AGM is coming up
and
we are in need of members and ideas - not technical discussion that no
one
understands...

(for Mike's concerns re the current discussions and processes of this
group, and what he would like to change, see "Testing and GVRD
Topology Problems")

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from Bradley:

In response to Mike's post

I resonate that the technical discussion is far beyond my technical
knowledge, which leaves me with a low interest in checking the list
because I dont have anything to add if I dont understand it. Yes, the
technical discussion is obviously important re next steps and
decisions, and I would love for there to be a separate forum for this
- what about a "technical issue forum" and a "main forum"?...

...I also am not clear Mike, what you mean by "broader issues" that
you
want to discuss - would you clarify this?

with heart,

Bradley

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from Mike West:

I mean that I would like to see things discussed that would be of
interest
to everyone (general direction of the organization, project ideas,
technology trends and vancouver specific issues) as opposed to
technical
details of a specific technology that only a few are interested. at
least
right now...with the AGM upcoming.

also it is good to rehash old ideas as they may be of interest people
just
tuning in, or in fact may have been a better idea than we first
thought.

a few things we could consider other than mesh:
- fundraising/organizing to get people with a lower income a reduced
rate on
a dsl line (especially single parents of school aged kids...the
teachers now
expect students to have access to the internet and the old "go to the
library" catchall is not actually realistic for many family schedules)
- community fibre feasibility study - what does it mean? what are the
benefits? how much would it cost? how do you organize it? are you
serious...my telecom costs would be way less than I am paying now and
it
increases the value of my (landlords) property by 10K and local tech
companies - and specifically game companies - have a giant digital
playground giving them an advantage over other cities! wtf?
- special event / public spaces wifi

etc. etc. i know many people probably have lots of ideas. i'd like
to hear
them. we should start small. try many different things and have fun
doing
it. thats the mentality that I really respect about the hackerspaces
- just
do/make something. from an economic perspective, there is much more
development when you do things that are DIFFERENT from other cities,
especially if you do something ahead of the curve because you end up
solving
problems with solutions that can then be shared (or "exported" in
economic
terms).

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from Gregory:

...Those are good ideas which speak to
our big weakness right now. Please start topics for them and I'll help
propagate them around the web as what VONIC is interested in helping
you, your building, your school, community in doing.
I think we have a fair number of people coming to the AGM btw.