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Chris Morgan

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Is there any simple way of using international characters in emails? I only
seem to be able to get the standard characters in Outlook Express and not
the extended set wherein lurk French and German accents.

John Patmore

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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In article <7s340m$f6n$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
chri...@morganski99.freeserve.co.uk says...

> Is there any simple way of using international characters in emails? I only
> seem to be able to get the standard characters in Outlook Express and not
> the extended set wherein lurk French and German accents.

Start, Programs, Accessories, Character map. You can copy required chars
from there. Alternatively, learn the ASCII (Alt) codes :)

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Jon Courthold

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é is achieved with Alt+numpad130. Very proud of that!

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Rudolf Schwarzkopf-Zskai

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Chris Morgan wrote in message <7s340m$f6n$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
:Is there any simple way of using international characters in emails? I

only
:seem to be able to get the standard characters in Outlook Express and not
:the extended set wherein lurk French and German accents.
:
:

By trial and error I've discovered these:
(press the 'alt' key and type in the number on the number pad, not the
numbers along the top)

á 0225
â 0226
ã 0227
ä 0228
å 0229
æ 0230
à 0224
ç 0231
ë 0235
è 0232
é 0233
ê 0234
È 0200
É 0201
Ê 0202
Ë 0203
Ì 0204
Í 0205
Î 0206
Ï 0207
ì 0236
í 0237
î 0238
ï 0239
Ñ 0209
ñ 0241
ó 0243
ò 0242
ô 0244
õ 0245
ö 0246
ø 0248
Ò 0210
Ó 0211
Ô 0212
Õ 0213
Ö 0214
Ø 0216
ß 0223
ü 0252
ú 0250
ù 0249
Ù 0217
Ú 0218
Û 0219
Ü 0220


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Ron Clark

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Just recently "Rudolf Schwarzkopf-Zskai" <ta...@face.value> wrote
this, (or some of this) :

>
>Chris Morgan wrote in message <7s340m$f6n$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>:Is there any simple way of using international characters in emails? I
>only
>:seem to be able to get the standard characters in Outlook Express and not
>:the extended set wherein lurk French and German accents.
>:
>:
>
>By trial and error I've discovered these:

snip

Have a few more to play with

€ 0128
¼ 172
½ 171
¾ 0446
ð 0240
ª 166
¹ 0441
² 253
³ 0435
¤ 15
Æ 146
¨ 249
· 250
° 248
± 241
Þ 0478

Ron Clark

Robert J. Baker

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:53:23 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc, "Jon
Courthold" <jon@**jcourthold.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re:
International Characters":

>é is achieved with Alt+numpad130. Very proud of that!

Surely it's a lot simpler and quicker to use [AltGr]+e?

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Robert J. Baker

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On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:56:10 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc, Ron Clark
<ro...@vanb.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re: International
Characters":

>Have a few more to play with
>
>€ 0128

On my system (or any system with Euro update installed),
[Alt]+[0][1][2][8] gives €. That last character is a Euro sign, in
case you can't see it as such.

Ron Clark

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Just recently rober...@bigfoot.com (Robert J. Baker) wrote this, (or
some of this) :

>On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:56:10 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc, Ron Clark


><ro...@vanb.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re: International
>Characters":
>
>>Have a few more to play with
>>

>>€ 0128


>On my system (or any system with Euro update installed),
>[Alt]+[0][1][2][8] gives €. That last character is a Euro sign, in
>case you can't see it as such.

I can read and send Euro signs alright, but yours arrived as
something else.

Alt 0128 = €

Also Cont+Alt +4 = €

and AltGr +4 = €

Ron Clark

Robert Patten

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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Ron Clark wrote...

[A load of symbols with their Alt codes snipped]

As John has suggested you can view these extended characters using the
Character Map. If you click one of the characters it will tell you on
the status bar how to enter that character using your keyboard. If it's
a character you use often the code may be worth remembering. I find that
some stick in my head, such as Alt+0169 for the copyright symbol...

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Robert J. Baker

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:43:31 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc, Ron Clark

<ro...@vanb.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re: International
Characters":

>Just recently rober...@bigfoot.com (Robert J. Baker) wrote this, (or
>some of this) :
>
>>On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:56:10 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc, Ron Clark
>><ro...@vanb.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re: International
>>Characters":
>>
>>>Have a few more to play with
>>>
>>>€ 0128
>>On my system (or any system with Euro update installed),
>>[Alt]+[0][1][2][8] gives €. That last character is a Euro sign, in
>>case you can't see it as such.
>
>I can read and send Euro signs alright, but yours arrived as
>something else.
>
> Alt 0128 = €
>
> Also Cont+Alt +4 = €
>
> and AltGr +4 = €

Strange. Although I of course have the Euro update installed (I got
it from the Micro$oft Web site -- they have a search engine, so it's
not hard to find) *and* use a Euro-enabled font (Andale Mono, from the
same site -- much more attractive than Courier New, IMHO), your Euro
sign (or whatever your Windows maps to code 128) arrived at my news
reader as [circumflex a][comma][hooked dash], as did all of your
reposts of it, *and* your echo back to me of my post of the Euro sign
(which was definitely a Euro sign when it left me). Meanwhile, your
original Euro (or whatever) has now become [tilde A][cent][circumflex
a][Euro][caron s][circumflex A][hooked dash]!

It's because of this kind of thing that I usually stick strictly to
ASCII (32-126), typing "Moebius" instead of "Möbius" and "UK$10"
instead of "£10". That way, I stand the greatest chance of my
messages being understood...

Rob Young

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Sep 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/21/99
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Robert J. Baker <rober...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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(snip)

> It's because of this kind of thing that I usually stick strictly to
> ASCII (32-126), typing "Moebius" instead of "Möbius" and "UK$10"

> instead of "Ł10". That way, I stand the greatest chance of my
> messages being understood...

"UK$10" sounds confusing to me. There are standard three letter ISO codes
for currencies which can avoid such confusion. Pounds sterling are GBP,
French francs are FRF, Deutschmarks are DEM, Hong Kong dollars are HKD
etc.Most are fairly obvious (but SAR is Saudi Arabian Riyals, not South
African Rand, which is ZAR). I've forgotten the one for Malaysian Ringgitts!

The one for the ? (Euro symbol typed as available on my keyboard - wonder
how it comes out?) is I think XEU - I know that was the one for the ECU,
which it replaced (yes, one would think ECU would do the job adequately).


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Chwith

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Rob Young <rob...@young-pencoed.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Robert J. Baker <rober...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:37e7a696...@news.freeserve.net...
>
[snip]

> Dyfal donc a dyr y garreg
> ("persistent blows break the stone" - it loses in translation
from the
> Welsh)

As do so many things...

Hwyl

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Robert J. Baker

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:27:50 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc, "Rob
Young" <rob...@young-pencoed.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re:
International Characters":

>"UK$10" sounds confusing to me. There are standard three letter ISO codes


>for currencies which can avoid such confusion. Pounds sterling are GBP,
>French francs are FRF, Deutschmarks are DEM, Hong Kong dollars are HKD
>etc.Most are fairly obvious (but SAR is Saudi Arabian Riyals, not South
>African Rand, which is ZAR).

I don't see what's so confusing about UK$, especially as compared to
GBP. "UK"=United Kingdom, "$"=the only ASCII currency symbol. What's
confusing about that?

And shouldn't Hong Kong dollars, being a variety of dollar, be HK$?

>I've forgotten the one for Malaysian Ringgitts!

I rest my case... ;<)

Rob Young

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Robert J. Baker <rober...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>(snip)

> I don't see what's so confusing about UK$, especially as compared to
> GBP. "UK"=United Kingdom, "$"=the only ASCII currency symbol. What's
> confusing about that?
>
> (snip)

At the risk of stating the obvious, we don't use dollars in the U.K.!

Just because $ is the only currency symbol the USA have seen fit to adopt in
ASCII, I don't see why we should pretend to be American.


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Chwith

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Rob Young <rob...@young-pencoed.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Robert J. Baker <rober...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:37ea0f33...@news.freeserve.net...
> >(snip)
> > I don't see what's so confusing about UK$, especially as
compared to
> > GBP. "UK"=United Kingdom, "$"=the only ASCII currency
symbol. What's
> > confusing about that?
> >
> > (snip)
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, we don't use dollars in the
U.K.!
>
> Just because $ is the only currency symbol the USA have seen
fit to adopt in
> ASCII, I don't see why we should pretend to be American.

Neither do I. If we can't use the £ sign, what's wrong with
UKL?
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Robert J. Baker

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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:44:40 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc, "Chwith"
<wub...@coombsty-chwith.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re:
International Characters":

>> Just because $ is the only currency symbol the USA have seen


>> fit to adopt in
>> ASCII, I don't see why we should pretend to be American.
>
>Neither do I. If we can't use the £ sign, what's wrong with
>UKL?

UKL?? It gets worse...

Paul Baker

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In article <7sflmo$p8m$5...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Chwith <wubble@coombsty-
chwith.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>If we can't use the £ sign, what's wrong with
>UKL?

Nothing apart from ISO 4217 specifying GBP (and having done so for the
best part of 20 years!)
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Chwith

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Robert J. Baker <rober...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:44:40 +0100, in freeserve.help.misc,
"Chwith"
> <wub...@coombsty-chwith.freeserve.co.uk> spake thus about "Re:
> International Characters":
>
> >> Just because $ is the only currency symbol the USA have seen
> >> fit to adopt in
> >> ASCII, I don't see why we should pretend to be American.
> >
> >Neither do I. If we can't use the £ sign, what's wrong with
> >UKL?
>
> UKL?? It gets worse...

Why? L is the sign for pound in the same way that S is the sign
for dollar. If we have to resort to GBP or some such nonsense,
surely the Yanks should be forced to accept USD. Prejudiced?
Me? You bet!
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