However, the club may have regretted letting Makosi in after her
shameful performance when she left the club at around 3.30am.
(so it says on the report here...) ;-)
or SnipURL
http://snipurl.com/hvzb
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Big G
Warning: This NG may contain nuts.
And this one calls Makosi 'mouthy' :-))
http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,50001-1196630,00.html
You missed out the 'shameful performance' - from the URL:
'Continues our spy: "She grabbed on to her crutch with both hands and
shouted: 'I really need to wee.'" Classy.'
Wanting to pee and telling pple about it is very 'shameful' indeed.
Well, we have been reading about Makosi (no safety belt, naked pix,
possible expulsion, shameful behaviour) for a month now. She's hardly
been out of the papers. Which is exactly what makes a 'celebrity'. As
soon as she realized she had the 'bad' persona, she cultivated (maybe
even starting from her Davina interview). Very smart girl, and what many
of us were expecting.
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JohnM
Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul &
Rainbow Diary: A Journey in the New South Africa
http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm
Dr Harold Shipman was in the news for months too but I don't consider
him a celebrity.
Many of the news items that I've found since Makosi came out of the BB
house wouldn't agree that she has 'cultivated'... but Hey! what do I
know? :/
Vic
Better he did it behind the tree than in front of it... and where was
Craig? :-))
Celebrity? Osama Bin Laden has hardly been out of the papers too!
Makosi doesn't dance, she doesn't sing, she doesn't act (matter of
opinion!), she isn't a model, she isn't a TV cook, she isn't a
sportwoman, she isn't a presenter, she isn't a nurse any more... Makosi
IS a person who has been on a TV game show and she IS an immigrant
worker who has violated the conditions of her work permit.
He was disguised as the tree!! :oD
Flopsy :o)
As I said elsewhere, you are mixing up notoriety with celebrity. As for
talent: what talent do Abe Titmus (sp?) or Jordan have? The only talent
they have is for self-publicity: have the papers talk about them.
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JohnM
That of course is not shameful, but photo-worthy...
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JohnM
G, you are mixing up notoriety with celebrity. I don't think cameras
followed Shipman into ChinaWhite's nor did gossip columns follow his
moves.
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JohnM
<sigh> a very common problem these days. Starting with those from BB.
As for
> talent: what talent do Abe Titmus (sp?) or Jordan have? The only talent
> they have is for self-publicity: have the papers talk about them.
>
>
Abi Titmuss. Don't insult her or Makosi will kill you ;-)
Vic
I'm not mixing anything. I consider a 'celebrity' to be someone who is
well known for a specific achievement such as acting, modelling (not
porn), sport etc. I don't consider Abi Titmus a celebrity, she's
notorious and has sold stories of her sexual exploits to Sunday rags.
Her ex, John Leslie, was well known and she's only well-known for her
sexual activities with him, other guys and women.
As for Jordan (Katie Price), she may be rich from her modelling work
i.e. flashing her false boobs on page 3 in The SUN etc. but she doesn't
have any other talent except for her outrageous public behaviour and
her failed love affairs with pop singers and soccer stars. I wouldn't
give either of them the time of day.
There's no clear definition of the word and who one person may consider
a celebrity, another person may not.
I'm not mixing anything. Makosi does not have any 'achievement' to her
name. She is just notorious at the moment, she's not a celebrity.
Anyway, we can go on like this forever. Let's just agree that we
disagree? ;-))
Vic
I class Rebecca Loos in the same category as I do Jordan and Abi
Titmus. - just 'notorious' for their sexual exploits. I wouldn't call
her a 'celebrity'. ;-)
Well exactly. Nowadays 'celebrities' are not talented people, they have
been reduced to people gossip columns write about. When I was young we
used to call them TV personalities. Now with OK and Hello and Heat there
is a market for people who give up their private lives and become public
property for the consumption of the readers of those magazines. Very
post-modern. No one to write about, no Hello. It's all manufactured.
Anyway, that's what all BB contestants want 'to be on the telly'; that's
what Ant's ambitions are (in one year from now I still want to be in the
papers); and that's what Makosi wants. And she's very successful, given
that we haven't stopped talking - and the papers haven't stopped talking
- about her.
--
JohnM
A celebrity is someone who appears in gossip columns and Hello because
they write about celebrities. I know this sounds like - is - a self-
referencing definition, but that's post-modernism for you.
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JohnM
Post-modern, there's a phrase I've never understood. I always thought that
modern was what's new and 'now', and rolled along so that the next thing
that was new became modern, and what had been modern became old-fashioned.
Post-modern would be in the future, no?
Steve
Not commenting on Abi.....she doesn't merit it......However, although I
dislike Jordan, she actually started as a model and made her money and
notoriety work for her.
Flopsy :o)
Have a look here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-modern
Modern means many things: contemporary (which is the use you are
thinking of) but it also describes a movement in art (modernism).
Famous modernist architects are for instance Oscar Niemeyer and Le
Corbusier (they just loved cement). The Sydney Opera House is a
modernist building. Post-modern architecture is the Lloyds building and
the Pompidou centre ("Let it all hang out - why should we hide the
insides of the building kind-of-thing").
--
JohnM
I just can't wait for post-post-modernism :-))
Steve
what about the Pre Post Modernism. :o)
Oh, bugger, I think I missed that. Must have been asleep.
I think that being a page three girl first does actually make Jordan a
celebrity, as everything else just followed.
Subtle, I know. :-)
As I said in another post...
"I consider a 'celebrity' to be someone who is well known for a
specific achievement such as acting, modelling (not porn), sport etc."
Whether it is subtle or not, I don't think displaying your boobs in a
tabloid newspaper makes somebody a celebrity... but as there is no
clear definition, we'll just have to differ in our interpretation of
the expression 'celebrity'. ;-)
Victoria