Disabled Parking Spaces in Portsmouth
Arturo Ui
'disabled' parking bays into enforceable bays.
This means that when you get home after a long day at work and your
road is full of parked cars, you can no longer park in your disabled
neighbour's 'bay', even though they haven't had a car in the last 2
years.
PCC are now legislating against the majority of us 'normal' Portsmouth
residents.
Go to the PCC website on the below link to find the notice and object
via email or letter to this crazy scheme - if disabled people wish to
use a car, they should either pay the same or live with the same
conditions as the rest of us.
Objections close at the end of August.
http://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/media/TRO_29_2006.doc
Artie
Pendragon
OK I shouldn't post in hast, I should take a second or two before to
think things through...
OH bugger it you make me mad!!!
I hope you get hit by a bus! fall down a hole, not killed, just maimed!!
So you too can have the pleasure of driving home from work and finding
that the Twat next door has parked in your disabled parking place, AGAIN!!!
Go get a life you ignorant bigot!!!
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Regards Steve Morrish...
Arturo Ui
Thanks a bundle, but don't you live in the same city as me?
If you are disabled, do you expect positive discrimination, or don't
you understand that us 'non-disabled' folks lose rights every time that
disabled people receive another privilege.
I'm happy to drive and park in the same roads as you, possibly even go
to the same church as me, why should you expect to be given privileges
that I don't have?
Artie
Pendragon
You are truly amazing to think that having a disability is a "privilege"
or maybe you think that disabled people think, "hey if I'm disabled I'm
going to get so many things for free may be it's worth not being able to
walk more than 10 yards!"
Discrimination is never a good thing, it leads to hate and injustice.
I know that there is an issue of people getting Blue parking Badges
fraudulently. There is a major problem with Portsmouth council not
keeping up to date with who needs a parking bay and who doesn't need
them anymore. You see them put them in but you never see them take them
away.
There is an issue with badge holders using them incorrectly. Using the
disabled parking bay at the shops, sitting in the car and the able
bodied passenger getting out to do the shopping. More than once I have
tapped on the window and asked, normally when their misuse of the badge
has caused my wife to walk further than she can without pain.
My point is not that you don't have legitimate concerns, it's at your
inflammatory tone. Please you must realize that you are being incredibly
insulting. By your choose of words, the whole tone of your post you will
put peoples back up. There are loads of disabled people, but there are
more that are the relatives of these people. When you insult disabled
people you are insulting a very large group. With me it's my wife your
insulting, that's personal!
Do you want to be the cause of pain and suffering?? I hope not.
Do I think that the counsel is doing the right thing? Yes, but only with
the assurance that every disabled parking bay is actively needed.
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Regards Steve Morrish...
AKA Pendragon
www.tssclan.co.uk
Arturo Ui
> Discrimination is never a good thing, it leads to hate and injustice.
Alas, I, like many non-disabled people, are rapidly feeling
discriminated against, because there is such a growing tide of
legislation that enables disabled persons, but at a price to
non-disabled people.
That legislation is gradually chipping away at my rights as a
non-disabled person.
> I know that there is an issue of people getting Blue parking Badges
> fraudulently. There is a major problem with Portsmouth council not
> keeping up to date with who needs a parking bay and who doesn't need
> them anymore. You see them put them in but you never see them take them
> away.
I concur. A friend bought a house with a bay allocated to it. It was
18 months before PCC contacted him to confirm if he still required it.
(He isn't registered disabled)
> There is an issue with badge holders using them incorrectly. Using the
> disabled parking bay at the shops, sitting in the car and the able
> bodied passenger getting out to do the shopping. More than once I have
> tapped on the window and asked, normally when their misuse of the badge
> has caused my wife to walk further than she can without pain.
Happy to take your word on that one.
> My point is not that you don't have legitimate concerns, it's at your
> inflammatory tone. Please you must realize that you are being incredibly
> insulting. By your choose of words, the whole tone of your post you will
> put peoples back up. There are loads of disabled people, but there are
> more that are the relatives of these people. When you insult disabled
> people you are insulting a very large group. With me it's my wife your
> insulting, that's personal!
The tone of my post reflects my feelings of injustice, and feeling that
I (and many other non-disabled) am losing out to PCC's well-intentioned
but excessively authoritarian approach.
I lead/manage a team of people, and would soon feel the temperature of
the team change if I lead with the same approach as PCC.
One of my regular activities is at a club that has made great leaps to
enable the disabled to take part. This has resulted in non-disabled
club members not being able to park near the clubhouse, store kit in
one end of one of the buildings. Many changes have been made to
'enable' the disabled, but at a price to the non-disabled.
If I leave my car at the club in a manner that means a disabled person
is slightly inconvenienced, it means I'm 'against' them. Propose an
activity that is OK for non-disabled, but would be difficult for the
disabled? I'm 'inconsiderate'. The list goes on.
> Do you want to be the cause of pain and suffering?? I hope not.
Of course not, but as a disabled person, where do you feel the end
lies? Do you feel that the enablement of disabled persons should be at
a price to the non-disabled? (Such as the yellow bays, or an overall
'enabling' approach such as the low & flat floored buses that enable
all of society to use them, and have made life easier for all)
> Do I think that the counsel is doing the right thing? Yes, but only with
> the assurance that every disabled parking bay is actively needed.
The bays exist, and are white. I'm happy not to use them at all. If
you have a problem with their use I'd suggest you have a chat ith the
local police, who'll be pleased to have a 'chat' with the owners of
'offending' cars. A 'chat' with our local Police will usually have the
effect. The marked space will be available for the use of a disabled
person.
Interestingly, a disabled neighbour of mine reacted with fury and still
called the police when another disabled driver (with disc) parked in
'her' white disabled bay! (Why? Because it is 'her' bay!)
Artie
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