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Dennise Fergus' role in the death of Jamie Bulger

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virtualcrusader

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Jun 23, 2001, 1:01:23 PM6/23/01
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A question that is not asked, is how a three year old was left
unsupervised so long as permit him to be abducted? Although I cannot
confirm this, I have heard at least that Dennise Fergus left Jamie
Bulger in the shopping centre unattended on a regular basis as it
aided her in her weekly shoplifting routine. If ever she were caught
she were at least able to request the security guards to release her
to fetch the child. If this is true, then even if Jamie had not come
to the harm he did, he may well have come to some other harm by some
other means.

Charles F Hankel

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Jun 23, 2001, 2:43:30 PM6/23/01
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While inventing Joe's next tale, virtual...@hotmail.com
(virtualcrusader) said:

It's all pretty much hearsay as to whether or net she did this regularly
for the motive you mention, but there's no doubt that Jamie was left
unattended for quite a while. Presumably all her wailing and gnashing of
teeth is a reaction to knowing that she left him as she did, more so than
an expression of her anger at the loss of a child.


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md1979

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Jun 25, 2001, 8:10:57 AM6/25/01
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Most unworthy. I didn't agree with the sentence - but come on, this is
totally unacceptable. Rembember this lady lost her son in horrendous
circumstances.

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POD ²°°¹

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Jun 25, 2001, 10:38:00 AM6/25/01
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This is true, and it is horrible to partition blame to her, but when the
original story was she turned her back and he was gone, make it look like
Jamie was snatched by the two lads. So in light of the baying for blood
this week, I feel it cruel but realistic to point out that the actual events
of the time make for slightly different reading.

It is not the case of "ar well she deserved it", but more of a case of "Well
the boy was walking around for over half an hour before the lads took him"

It is not meant to blame her or anything, it is here so that you can make an
informed opinion based on more of the facts.

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Darryl

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Jun 25, 2001, 2:16:46 PM6/25/01
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Whether she did or did not, the point I would like to make is that all
parents I am sure have taken their eyes off their child for a moment and
then see that the child has disappeared far too quickly.
Personally I use the old fashioned reins of my kids, not particularly pretty
but bloody effective!

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Charles F Hankel

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Jun 26, 2001, 4:53:09 AM6/26/01
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While phoning around the contractors, "Darryl"
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>Whether she did or did not, the point I would like to make is that all
>parents I am sure have taken their eyes off their child for a moment and
>then see that the child has disappeared far too quickly.
>Personally I use the old fashioned reins of my kids, not particularly pretty
>but bloody effective!

Well done, that man. It may be seen to be old-fashioned but at least you
remove the risk of toddlers wandering off in their own sweet world; after
all the biggest danger is what they might do to themselves while they're
exploring.

Ian Clark

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Jun 26, 2001, 12:55:25 PM6/26/01
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As much as I feel sorry for Jamie, Denise Fergus cashed in BIG TIME on her
sons death.

Think about it. When she was first in the headlines, she was a skanky,
scruffy bitch. Look at her now..

Living much more comfortably.. She was a shit mother Full stop. she didn't
deserve to have a son and it's such a shame he went in the way he did.
However, his life with Ms Fergus wouldn't have been much good. In fact it's
likely he would have been as misbehaved as his killers, maybe not to the
point of murder but he would have surely taken on his mothers stealing
habits.

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md1979

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Jun 26, 2001, 4:41:54 PM6/26/01
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Two things. Refer to my earlier posting. I'm sorry, I distance myself from
this. Given the horrendous loss this lady suffered, I don't think this sort
of talk is right.

Secondly, if what is being talked about here is representative (of people in
Liverpool), then it rather begs the question as to whether the boys' real
crime was insulting the city's pride - since one evidently isn't so bothered
with poor Deniss.

Personally, I distance myself from this. I never agreed with the sentence,
or the trial for that matter. Nevertheless, whilst I neither can agree with
the many a statement James' mother has made in her personal crusade, I both
understand and respect it.

Try to take a third personal look at what is happening here. Everybody seems
to burn with passion about this, and rather than there being any healing in
the matter, hatred gets stirred up.

The irony of this is - and no (honestly) I certainly don't want to begin
bible bashing like some evangelical - that we are witness to an
"unparalleled evil", whose activity continues to this very day. Only thing
is that it is no longer in two small boys, but at large in the collective
hate we see. Perhaps it is society's materialistic, and technologically
sophisticated makeup that blinds people to this spiritual reality. Yet when
you see the hurt that has been caused, and the wounds still being inflicted
in this, well... you call me superstitions, religious, what you will. This
is evil. It is evil begetting evil, as evil always has.

Or don't you want to say something constructive? Do you perhaps want to "wip
up" feeling?

Indeed it is to Ralph Bulger's credit that he himself has called for a time
of reflection. For God's sake - and that whether He is Jehova, Allah, or by
whatever Name you know Him - let this stop now. Enough people have been
hurt.


Ian Clark

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Jun 26, 2001, 4:52:23 PM6/26/01
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To be honest, I couldn't care or less about ANY of the situation. I'm
completely not at all bothered whether those 2 boys live or die.. I don't
particularly care..

I'm just making a statement about how Denise cashed in on the whole
affair... I'm not trying to whip up feeling.. I suppose the people of
Liverpool are extremely pissed off with the issue.. I'm from Liverpool and
live in liverpool..

I wasn't bothered at the time (8 years ago) and I ain't bothered now..

As I said.. just making a statement of someone cashing in.


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Hugh Jaas

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Jun 29, 2001, 12:14:17 PM6/29/01
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20 minutes? 30 minutes? over half an hour? make up your mind POD. Are these
the facts, or just what everyone else has told you. For fucks sake! ...and
you whinge about Sun readers being easily lead.

Hugh


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May 24, 2014, 7:45:30 AM5/24/14
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Denise Bulger had hold of James's hand when she went into the butcher's shop.
As she went to pay he broke away and ran outside - it was a second or so maximum, but he was gone when she ran outside after him! The rest of what's on here is utter lies and has no relation to what happened. Some on here are an utter disgrace and have other agendas - for God's sake get a life you pathetic individuals and attention seekers. If you want to know the truth then read the latest book by his Dad Ralph, in 2013.
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