Petition against anonymity for Thompson & Venables
Marc McCann
Do you remember February 1993 when a young 3 yr old was taken from a
shopping
mall in Liverpool by two 10-year-old boys. Jamie Bulger walked away from his
mother for only a second and Jon
Venables took his hand and led him out of the mall with his friend Robert
Thompson. They took Jamie on a walk for over 2 and a half miles, along the
way
stopping every now and again to torture the poor little boy who was crying
constantly for his mommy. Finally they stopped at a railway track where they
brutally kicked him, threw stones at him, rubbed paint in his eyes and
pushed
batteries up his anus. It was actually worse than this... What these two
boys
did was so horrendous that Jamie's mother was forbidden to identify his
body.
They then left his beaten small body on the tracks so a train could run him
over to hide the mess they had created. These two boys, even being boys,
understood what they did was wrong, hence trying to make it look like an
accident. This week Lady Justice Butler-Sloss has awarded the two boys
anonymity for the rest of their lives when they leave custody with new
identities. We cannot let this happen. They will also leave early this year
only serving just over half of their sentence. One paper even stated that
Robert may go on to University. They are getting away with their crime. They
disgustingly and violently took Jamie's life away - in return they each get
a
new life. Please read this carefully.... then add your name at the end...
and
send it to everyone you can! Please add your name and location to the list
and
send it to friends and family. Please copy this e-mail (highlight text,
right
click, copy and paste into a new email) instead of forwarding so we do not
get
>> arrows at the beginning of the sentances. If you are the 500th person to
sign, please forward this e-mail to: cust....@gtnet.gov.uk
<cust....@gtnet.gov.uk> and attention it to Lady Justice Butler-Sloss.
Then
start the list over again and send to your friends and family. The Love-Bug
virus took less that 72 hours to reach the world. I hope this one does as
well. We need to protect our family and friends from creatures like Robert
and Jon. One day they may be living next to you and your small children,
without your knowledge. If Robert and Jon could be so evil at 10 years old,
imagine what they could do as adults!
1. SUSAN STOCKER,BRAMPTON, ON, CANADA
2. Karen Butler Oshawa, ON, CANADA
3. Ann-Marie Butler, Ajax ON, Canada
4. Erin Catto, Brooklin ON, Canada
5. Scott Hamilton, Perth, Scotland
6. Gordon Scott, Uni of Abertay-Dundee,Scotland.
7. Kevan Gibson, Uni of Abertay-Dundee, Scotland
8. Lynne Ramage, Glasgow Caledonian University
9. Melissa Price, Buckinghamshire, England
10. ZoeDignam, Walnut Creek, CA, USA
11. Siobhan Dignam, Montrose, SCOTLAND
12. Declan McCann, Glasgow Caledonian University
13. Joanne.M, Leeds, West Yorkshire. England
14. Sarah Beales,leeds,west yorkshire. England
15. alan thomas,leeds,west yorkshire.england
16. Sam Haworth,Blackburn Lancashire,England
17. chris hipgrave,wolves,midlands,england
18. Adele Griffin,Peterborough,Cambs,England
19. Grace Munday, Abingdon, Oxford,England
20. Lisa Hamilton,Peterborough,Cambs,England
21. Julie Hamlet,Abingdon, Oxfordshire
22. Richard Karpa, Bicester, Oxfordshire
23. RachaelKarpa, Bicester, Oxfordshire
24. Mike Bourne, Colchester, ESSEX, ENGLAND
25. Lizzie Duncan, Hemel, Herts
26. Farah Abbasi, Watford, Herts
27.Gemma Davison, Watford, Herts
28. Zoe Corsan , Watford, Herts
29. Danielle Fleming, Watford, Herts
30. Sarah Barratt, Watford, Herts
31. Nicola Franklin, Chesham, Buckinghamshire
32. Andrew Paul Sitzberger, Amersham, Buckinghamshire
33. Gemma Richardson, Amersham Buckinghamshire
34. Laura Axtell, Hertford, Herts
35. Ross McConnell-Tait, Herts
36: Ricky Parkins, Hemel, Herts
37. Sarah Manning, Herts
38. Joanne Lowe, Hemel, Herts
39. Oonagh Mc Roberts, Hemel Hempstead, Herts
40. Lucy Lawrence, St Albans,Herts
41. Holly Lawrence, St Albans, Herts
42. Dave Timoni , Milton Keynes,Bucks
43. Sarah Reynolds, Milton Keynes, Bucks
44. Carla Lyons-Davis,Milton Keynes,Bucks
45. Natasha Lyons-Davis Milton Keynes UK
46. Natalie Bennett, Milton Keynes, Bucks
47. Kerry Russell, Milton Keynes UK
48. Tracey Halstead, Milton Keynes, Bucks
49. Jody Witham, Milton Keynes, Bucks
50. Alastair Davies, Milton Keynes, Bucks
51. Tracy Jaquest, Iver Heath, Bucks
52. Alane Coles, Manchester, UK
53. George Coles, Manchester, UK
54. Kher Singh Landa, UK
55. Ravinder Singh, Manchester UK
56. Donald Wilson, Edinburgh, UK
57. Darren Perrie, Edinburgh, UK
58. Katrina Belghache, Edinburgh, UK
59. Stuart Steven, Edinburgh, UK
60. Louisa Smith, Edinburgh, UK
61. Mark Ishaq, Edinburgh, UK
62. Jenny Watson, Edinburgh, UK
63. Murray Skinner, Edinburgh, UK
64. Laura Carmichael, Hamilton, UK
65. Sam Bethune UK
66. Mark Young, Airdrie UK
67. Anne-Marie Fulton, Newmains UK
68. Debbie-Lee Fulton, Larkhall UK
69. Stephen Richard Banyer, Hartlepool,England, UK
70. Kelly Usher, Hartlepool, England, UK
71. Laura Yardley,Hartlepool, england
72. Naomi Smallman Hartlepool, England
73. Michelle Lyon. Hartlepool, England,UK
74. Ashley Mcbean. Hartlepool, England, UK
75. Peter Tate Hartlepool, England, UK
76. Val Tate Hartlepool, England, UK
77. Michael Tate, Hartlepool, England, UK
78. Jonathan Tate, Hartlepool, England, UK
79. Liam Dunnett, Hartlepkol, England, UK
80. Katrina Connolly, hartlepool, england uk
81. Carl Rowbotham , hartlepool, england uk!!!
82. Claire Bartlett, Hartlepool, England, UK!!
83. Andrew connor, England, UK.
84. Laura Parker, Hartlepool, England, UK.
85. Kim Coulson, Hartlepool, England, UK.
86. Leanne Robbins, Hartlepool, England, UK.
87. Craig Thurlow, Liverpool, England, UK.
88. Tony Heath, Liverpool, England, UK.
89. Kimberley Hall, Widnes, England, UK.
90. Claire Grady, Widnes,England,UK.
91. Hannah Booth, Great Sankey, England, UK.
92. Katie Mills, Great Sankey, England, UK.
93. Fi Jones, Great Sankey, England, UK
94. Phill Bell, Great Sankey, England, UK
95. Louise Bell, Great Sankey, England, UK
96. Marc Hughes, Birchwood, England, UK
97. Donna Morris, Locking Stumps, UK
98. Leanne Lawson, Orford, England, UK
99. Dean Cross, Birchwood, England, UK
100. Jennifer Brown, Orford, England, UK
101. Katy Eyres, Warrington, England, UK.
102. Laura Taylor, Warrington, England, UK.
103. Amanda Owens, warrington, England, uk
104. Eve Johnson, Warrington, England,UK
105. David Oliver, St.John's, Newfoundland, Canada
106. Ashley Perry, Weyburn Saskatchewan, Canada
107. Douglas Gibson, Rockhaven Saskatchewan, Canada
108. Yolanda Gibson, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
109. Ashley Giroux, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
110. Lindsey Baumung, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
111. Jessica Diewold, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
112. Carmen Hildebrand, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
113. Bonnie Herauf, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
114. Marylou Langridge, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,Canada
115. Casia Anton, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
116. Trysh Froese, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
117. Sharla Johnson, Langenburg, Sakatchewan, Canada
118. Heather Hirkala, Spyhill,Saskatchewan,Canada
119. Mandy Hirkala, Esterhazy, Saskatchewan, Canada
120. Roxanne Hirkala, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
121. Brian Swann, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
122. Amy Arnason, Tantallon, Saskatchewan, Canada
123. Brittany Ryan, Tantallon,Saskatchewan,Canada
124. Jarred Duchek
125. Nicky Beaumont,Saskatoon, Sk. Canada
126. Valerie Cisyk, Saskatoon, Sk. Canada
127. Erica Wellsch, Saskatoon, Sk. Canada
128. Catherine Flaman, Saskatoon, Sk. Canada
129. Jayme Hall, Saskatoon, Sk. Canada
130. Carol Dube, Assiniboia, Sk. Canada
131. Darrell Hall, Assiniboia, Sk. Canada
132 Michelle Nelson, Calgary, AB. Canada
133. Delainie James, Calgary, AB, Canada
134. Riaz Basrai, Calgary, AB, Canada
135. Robyn James, Calgary, AB, Canada
136. Teresa Marra, Calgary, AB, Canada
137. Val Lunder, Calgary, AB, Canada
138. Terri-Lynn Fedyk, Calgary, AB, Canada
139. Jodi Koroluk, Calgary,Alberta, Canada
140. Julie Neuman, Calgary, AB, Canada
141. Emily Grunberg,Calgary,Ab, Canada
142. Yolanda Moreira-Massot, Calgary, AB, Canada
143. Arlene Gorman, Calgary, AB, Canada
144. Karen Jacobs, Calgary, AB, Canada
145. Naomi Green, Calgary, AB, Canada
146. Charlene Reed, Calgary, AB, Canada
147. Steve Zack, Calgary, AB, Canada
148. Shaye Zack, Calgary, AB, Canada
149. Brandon Zack, Calgary, AB, Canada
150. Marion Paulson Calgary, AB Canada
151. Christine Spina Calgary, AB Canada
152. Jim Ramsay, Kelowna, BC Canada
153. Sheryl Reid, Kelowna, BC Canada
154. Patricia Milaire, Kelowna, BC Canada
155. Nancy Garard, Surrey, BC Canada
156. Alisa Brownlee,Kelowna, BC Canada
157. Shelna Coumont,Surrey,BC Canada
158. Dale Kathryn Grove, Delta, BC, Canada
159. Shelli Gyllich, Langley, BC, Canada
160. Victor Fast, Prince George, BC, Canada
161. Jeanette Clark, Sechelt, BC, Canada
162. Pam Lievers, Prince George, BC, CANADA
163. Tanya Simpson, Prince George BC Canada
164. Bonnie Mooney, Prince George, B.C. Canada
165. Pierre Boisjoli,Prince George,B.C.Canada
166. Jamie Heinrich, La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland
167. Brent Wagner, Calgary, Alberta
168. Mike Loreth, Prince George, B.C. Canada
169. Ben Berland, Prince George, B.C., Canada
170. M Berland, Vancouver, BC Canada
171. Jessica Erickson, Prince George, BC Canada
172. Korena Erickson, Surrey, B.C., Canada
173. Catherine Lessard, Prince George, BC, Canada
174. Cheryl Pierre, Prince George, BC CANADA
175. Adele Chingee, McLeod Lake, BC CANADA
176. Jenine Solonas, McLeod Lake, B.C. CANADA
177. Jodie Ware, McLeod Lake, BC CANADA
178. Jamie Lee Ware, Prince George, BC CANADA
179. Nancy primus, Mackenzie B.C Canada
180. Leona Nooski, Fraser Lake B.C.,CANADA
181. Kyle Eccleston, Sechelt, BC, Canada
182. Laurie R, Prince Rupert, BC, CANADA
183. Gina Ryan, Prince Rupert, BC CANADA
184. Lana Plante, Vancovuer, BC Canada
185. Corinne Imrie, Vancouver, BC Canada
186. Kathy Schleyer, Vancovuer, BC, Canada
187. Ron MacGillivray, Vancouver,BC, Canada
188. Maria Meijer, Calgary, AB, Canada
189. Michael Cameron, Calgary, AB, Canada
190. Dorothy V. Brooks, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
191. Elaine S. Mohan, Airdrie, Alberta, Canada
192. Elaine Powles, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
193. Daryl Reilly Calgary Alberta Canada
194. Carol Lethaby, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
195. Maria Mayder, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
196. Mike Mayder, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
197. Nektaria Mayder, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
198. Christina Mayder, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
199. Donny Mayder, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
200. Linda Feeney, Chestermere, Alberta, Canada
201. John Feeney, Chestermere, Alberta, Canada
202. Justine Feeney, Chestemere, Alberta, Canada
203. Keenan Feeney, Chestermere, Alberta, Canada
204. Lisa Feeney, Chestermere, Alberta, Canada
205. Kathy Bandura, Brooks, Alberta, Canada
206. Cary Fecho, Hanna, Alberta, Canada
207. Brenda Karg, Hanna, Alberta, Canada
208. Jennifer Moench, Craigmyle, Alberta, Canada
209. Cynthia Siewert, Hanna, Alberta, Canada
210. Margie Campbell, Olds, Alberta Canada
211. Heather Hartmann, Calgary, Alberta Canada
212. Mike Morris, Augusta, Montana, USA
213. Danna Bertolino, Roberts, Montana USA
214. Dotti Free, Sun City, AZ USA
215. Sara Vanderhei-Nunez, Phoenix, AZ USA
216. Tonya Braun, Montgomery, IL USA
217. Louis Delavega,Bolingbrook, IL USA
218. Michelle Turner, Plainfield, il usa
219. Hilary Korabik, Franklin Park, IL USA
220. Kristin Morgan, Schiller Park, IL USA
221. Sara Verbel, St. Charles, IL USA
222. Joelle Kalina, New Lenox, IL USA
223. Anton Kalina, New Lenox, IL USA
224. Janet Kalina, New Lenox, IL USA
225. Mandy Galvin, Burbank, IL USA
226. James Kalina, Chicago, IL USA
227. Larry Walker, Chicago, IL USA
228. Toni Kalina, New Lenox, IL USA
229. Susan Schopp, Westminster, CA USA
230. Jody Shigetani, Bothell, WA USA
231. Robin Fox, Hawaii USA
232. Don Fox,Lagrange,Ill, USA
233. Karen Fox, Lagrange, Ill. USA
234. Erik Fox, Lagrange, IL USA
235. Kayla Schumann CO,USA
236. Michelle Adams MI, USA
237. James T. Colclasure MN, USA
238. Ryan M. Oeser KS, USA
239. Karamela Aidaros, England
240. Natalya Barton, England
241. Danielle Jacobson,FL,USA
242. Danielle Chelley, England
243. Raenette Rice,England
244. Laura Hague, England
245. Kat jones, England
246. Raven,England
247. Anna,England
248. Natasha, England
249. Sophie Johnson, Hampshire, England
250. chris,england, lock them up forever!!!!!!
251. James Johnson, Hampshire,England
252. Hayley Johnson, Surrey, England
253. tannya newman surrey,england
254. fay renathe pedersen
255. Alexander Langsholt, Oslo, Norway
256. Per Arne Flaesen, Oslo, Norway
257. Per Christian Grimsgaard, Norway
258. Summer-Leigh Turner, Newcastle Australia
259. Gabbrielle Robinson, Sydney Australia
260. Debbie Fogarty, Sydney Australia
261. Adam Fonseca, Sydney Australia
262. Sandra Torrecilla, Sydney Australia
263. Jenny Taylor, Sydney Australia
264. Carrie Price, Sydney Australia
265. Jared Price, Wellington, New Zealand
266. Aimee Lowes, Wellington, New Zealand
267. Carolyn Sanders, Palmerston North, New Zealand
268. Naomi Robb, Upper Hutt, New Zealand
269. Donna Stunell, Upper Hutt, New Zealand
270. Jane McCreath, Katikati, New Zealand
271. Catherine Taylor, Wellington, New Zealand
272. Tineke Reidie, Blenheim, New Zealand
273. Joshua Reidie, Blenheim, New Zealand
274. Jim Johnston, Blenheim, New Zealand
275. Lyne Johnston, Blenheim, New Zealand
276. Myra Earnshaw, Blenheim, New Zealand
277. Michelle Kenny,CHRISTCHURCH (blenheim), New Zealand
278. Jim Johnston, CHRISTCHURCH (blenheim), New Zealand
279. Stephanie Nathan, AUCKLAND, New Zealand
280. Alethea Nathan, AUCKLAND, New Zealand
281. Aanya Nathan, Wellington, New Zealand
282. Victor Toleafoa, PORIRUA, New Zealand
283. Ellyna Fidow, Auckland, New Zealand
284. Sau Tuionoula, Auckland, New Zealand
285. Richard Tuionoula, Auckland, New Zealand
286. Marjorie Leatua, Auckland, New Zealand
287. Salalaulii Leatua, Auckland, New Zealand
288. Vagagafetalai Leatua, Auckland, New Zealand
289. Ricky Faamau, Chrstchurch, New Zealand
290. Marjorie Faamau, Christchurch, New Zealand
291. Nedland Udom Leatua, Christchurch, New Zealand
292. Palanikeke Leatua, Christchurch, New Zealand
293. Suafa Leatua, Auckland, New Zealand
294. Vagagafetalai Herene Leatua Auckland, New Zealand
295. Tauemua Juliet Faamau Christchurch, New Zealand
296. Likisone Faamau Christchurch, New Zealand
297. Tracey Clement, Auckland, New Zealand
300. Ata Apulu, Auckland, New Zealand
301. Tulu Ierome, Auckland, New Zealand
302. Vanessa Ieriko, Auckland NZ
303. Elizabeth Papalii, Auckland NZ
304. Monette Maiava, Auckland NZ
305. Maria Apulu, Auckland NZ
306. Meriko Maiava, Auckland NZ
307. Bill Maiava, Auckland NZ
308. Meriko Jnr Sumeo-Shaw, Auckland NZ
309. Georgie Sumeo-Shaw, Auckland NZ
310. Finn Sumeo-Shaw, Auckland NZ
311. Dean Tigafua, Auckland NZ
312. Rosita Lafaele, Auckland NZ
312. Maria Hurt, Auckland NZ
313. Goretti Soagia-Tepu, Auckland, NZ
314. Fale Tapuai-Seu, Auckland, NZ
315. Itea Lakisoe, Auckland, NZ
316. Taua'ituli Jemina To'oala, Auckland, NZ
317. Tai Elizabeth, Auckland, New Zealand
318. Jacqueline Ata, Whakatane, New Zealand
319. Debbie Morunga, Orewa, New Zealand
320. Melissa Calkin, Papamoa, New Zealand
321. Karl Marwood, Taupo, New Zealand
322. Erana King, Taupo, New Zealand
323. Vicki Thomas, Tokoroa, New Zealand
324. Jason Billett, Tokoroa, New Zealand
325. Michelle Marshall, Taupo New Zealand
326. Michelle Marshall, Taupo New Zealand
327. Pauline Askew, Christchurch New Zealand
328. Margaret Bolstad, Waiuku New Zealand
329. Jasen Martin, Rotorua, New Zealand
330. Melinda Grey, Rotorua, New Zealand
331. Brent Worthington, Rotorua, New Zealand
332. Lara Skipper, Tauranga, New Zealand
333. Rachel Millington, Gloucestershire, England
334. Lia Perry , Perth ,Western Australia
335. Alenka Burley, Perth, Western Australia
336. Kerry Dallimore, Perth Western Australia
337. Jenna Dorrell, Perth Western Australia
338. Dionne, Western Australia
339. Tracy, Western Australia
340. Robina Perth, Western Australia
341. Cindy, Newman Western Australia
342. Judy Riley, Perth Western Australia
343. Insea Flohre, Aachen Germany
344. Fiona Mackenzie, Perth Western Australia
345. Dale Farley; Perth, Western Australia.
346. Renneth Antonio, Perth, Western Australia
347. Barbara Hewitt, Mere, Wiltshire, United Kingdom
349. Sue Jamieson, Somerset, United Kingdom
350. Gemma Ham, Somerset, UK
351. Angela Haskell, Wiltshire, UK
352. Lucy Pike, Wiltshire, UK
353. Claire Hempenstall, Wiltshire, UK
354. Ceri Reading, Wiltshire, UK
355. Louise Partridge, Lancashire, UK
356. Louise Williams, Wigan, Lancashire, UK (Lock them up forever and throw
away the key)
357. Sally Kay, Darwen, Lancashire, UK
358. Farrah Gudgeon, Littleborough, Lancashire, UK
359. James Brown, Wigan, Lancashire, UK
360. Katy Mills, Barrowford, Lancashire, UK
361. Amanda Meachin, Laneshaw Bridge Lancashire, UK.
362. Alison Pepper, Earby, Lancashire, UK
363. Michelle Day, Bournemouth, UK
364. Aleaz Scadding, Wimborne, Dorset, UK
365. Sarah Brailey, Christchurch, Dorset, UK
366. Marie Newstead, Ashford, Middlesex, UK
367. Hannah McLoughlin, Yateley, Hamsphire UK
368. Lesley Wilde, Frimley Green Camberley, Surrey
369. Charlotte Wilde, Northolt, Middlesex.
370. Katie Morris, Lake Tahoe, California
371. Carla Trenter, Whitton, Middlesex UK
372. Gemma Mckay, Richmond, UK
378. Isobel Youel, Wimbledon, London, UK
379. Abi Wallis, London, UK
380. James Sherwood, Paris, France
381. Andrew O'Sullivan, London, UK
382. Ben O'Boyle, W Sussex, UK
383. Louise O'Boyle, Sydney, Australia
384. Victoria Fennell, Cheltenham, UK
385. Faye Reynolds, Cheltenham, UK
386. Laura Lander, Kidderminster, UK
387. Tina Emerson, Kidderminster, UK
388. Liz Edwards, Kidderminster, UK
389. Sharron Edwards, Northampton, UK
390. Claire Edwards, Kidderminster, UK
391. Vanessa Heeley, Stourport-on-Severn, UK
392. James Brown, Kidderminster, UK
393. Peter Wilson, Kidderminster, UK
394. Mark Robins, Birmingham, UK
395. Kit Williams, Plymouth, UK
396. Nicola Smith-Giles, Essex, UK
397. Sandra Hughes, Essex. UK
398. Emma Evans, Essex UK
399. Sharon Dearman Essex UK
400. Vicky Dearman Essex UK
401. Amanda Maisey Essex UK
402. Emma Jackson Essex UK
403. Nagina Iqbal Essex UK
404. Zak Iqbal Essex UK
405. Rasheeda Dennie London UK
406. Inderjit Soor, West Midlands UK
407. Rommy Anand, Dubai UAE
408. Sharon Bean, Peterborough, UK
409. Connie Lamont, Glasgow, UK
410. Amanda Scott, Glasgow, UK
411. Stacy Lappin, Glasgow, UK
412. Jason Lappin Stuttgart Germany
413. Jennifer Rutherford, Glasgow, UK
414. Elke Sheriff, Gibraltar
415. Joanne Coombes , Gibraltar
416. Lesley Louise, Gibraltar
417. Giovanca Pitto, Gibraltar
418. A Gabay, Gibraltar
419. J Francis,Gibraltar
420. C Griffin, Gibraltar
421. H Franco, Gibraltar
422. K Martinez, Gibraltar
423. K Gerada, Gibraltar
424. T Soleci, Gibraltar
425. L. Mascarenhas, Gibraltar
426. K Griffin Gibraltar
427. Emma Labrador, Gibraltar
428. Lucia Robinson, Gibraltar
429. Nadine Morello, Gibraltar
430. Rachel Louise Jurado, Gibraltar
431. Phillippa Katherine Baron Gibraltar
432. Kara Dowson, Cardiff, Wales UK
434. Kirsty Blake, Drayton, UK
435. Rachel Evans, Newbury, UK
436. Margaret Hunt, Didcot UK
437. Alan Thomas, Leeds, West Yorkshire UK
438. Rosemary Tollington Margate Kent UK
439. Christine Tollington Ramsgate Kent UK
440. Christopher Tollington Margate Kent UK
441. William Tollington Margate Kent UK
442. Ruth Tollington Margate Kent UK
443. Lee Elliott Herne Bay Kent UK
444. Joseph Dew Herne Bay Kent UK
445. James Lee Canterbury Kent UK
446. Claire Lee Canterbury Kent UK
447. John Lee Canterbury Kent UK
448. James Richard Lee Canterbury Kent UK
449. Emma Lee Canterbury Kent UK
450. Michael Lee Hamburg Germany
451. Anna Marie Kemp Milton Regis Sittingbourne Kent UK
452. Molly Lee Canterbury Kent UK
453. Annie Payne Canterbury Kent UK
454. Ellen Elizabeth Marshall, Edinburgh Scotland UK (May God never forgive
them)
455. Brian William Marshall, Edinburgh Scotland UK 456. Richard Taft,
Broadstairs, Kent.
457. Sue Spight, Whitstable, Kent UK
458. Maria Smith Favesham Kent UK
459. Wendy De'Ath, Herne Bay Kent UK
460. Harriet Glover, Faversham, Kent UK
461. Yvonne Derrick, Canterbury, Kent UK
462. Ally Conlon Kilsyth, Scotland UK.
BMA30UK
Mr M. Ahearne, Knowsley Merseyside.
Mr G. Ahearne, Knowsley Merseyside.
Mrs M. Ahearne, Knowsley Merseyside.
"Marc McCann" <marc....@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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POD {铱觹
> We need to protect our family and friends from creatures like Robert
> and Jon. One day they may be living next to you and your small
> children, without your knowledge. If Robert and Jon could be so evil
> at 10 years old, imagine what they could do as adults!
Nothing like unfounded scaremongery is there?
Do you know what surprises me most about this, and what is so very
scary, is that I sometimes visit Orrell Primary school, not far from
where all this happened, and every time I visit, I have to go through a
gate that, like the Shankly gates are dedicated, to a girl called Jade.
Now Jade is dead, This young girl was brutally killed by a boy not much
older than her, because while playing, he had cut her lip, and because
he felt he would get into trouble because she would go and tell her mum,
he took her to the railway track and savagely beat the life out of her.
And yet, if it wasn't for the fact of the gate, and a magazine article
in one of these trashy coffee table magazines relaying how Jade's
parents are now expecting another baby, I wouldn't have known about it
at all!
Where is the clammering mob waiting to disembowel this lad? OK he never
started spray painting her or sticking batteries up inside Jade, but it
is all to close for me. But since there is no mass media over Jade,
there is no petition, no signatures from as far as Canada..
Now I'm not screaming hypocrisy, but there are many hundreds of people,
probably thousands, who are a lot more evil that these two, yet no-one
cares. And more importantly, everyone wants the blood of the two lads,
while I'd have thought it would have been more productive to lynch their
parents for their shocking failures.
But maybe that's just me.
And is it also the cynic in me that raises an eyebrow at the fact that
the top signatures on this are from Canada, a possible location of one
of the boys? Good old human self preservation rather than morale
justice?
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Roderick Stewart
wrote:
> Now I'm not screaming hypocrisy, but there are many hundreds of people,
> probably thousands, who are a lot more evil that these two, yet no-one
> cares. And more importantly, everyone wants the blood of the two lads,
> while I'd have thought it would have been more productive to lynch their
> parents for their shocking failures.
Why do you think it is "productive2 to lynch anybody at all? Who thinks
they have the right to take the law into their own hands, and why? We have
a legal system to establish guilt and assign punishment as appropriate, and
that should be that.
Rod.
POD {铱觹
news:VA.0000069...@escapetime.nospam.plus.com:
> In article <4068b609$0$3305$cc9e...@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Pod
> {Ò¿Ó} wrote:
>> Now I'm not screaming hypocrisy, but there are many hundreds of
>> people, probably thousands, who are a lot more evil that these two,
>> yet no-one cares. And more importantly, everyone wants the blood of
>> the two lads, while I'd have thought it would have been more
>> productive to lynch their parents for their shocking failures.
>
> Why do you think it is "productive2 to lynch anybody at all? Who
> thinks they have the right to take the law into their own hands, and
> why? We have a legal system to establish guilt and assign punishment
> as appropriate, and that should be that.
>
> Rod.
>
I don't Rod, I'm just making the point that surely if you were to lynch
anyone, or even if you just wanted to blame anyone, it should be the
parents, not the 10 year old boys.
Marc McCann
two boys being given complete anonymity. The facts are:
1. These boys lives have now improved drastically as a direct result of them
torturing and killing a baby.
I think it would be very safe to say most people feel these boys have not
served enough time in prison. Are you happy for the government to say these
boys are now totally rehabilitated and safe, and that they will be able to
live anywhere without you knowing. How many times has the authorities been
wrong in cases like this?
Has anything been said regards the rehabilitation of their parents? Of
course the parents are responsible and should have been held accountable but
on the other hand I still find it very hard to believe a 10 year old child
not knowing that causing pain and death to another child to be wrong.
Marc
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taking enjoyment out of beating and torturing a terrified innocent child,
Probably because they were simply bored and where looking for some
excitement.Surely the parents should take some of the blame for their
actions.
What is it that makes a person man or child go beyond the bounds of human
decency? Do they deserve to die? I'm not sure about that one, I know if I
was related to the murdered child then I would have no problem with that
question because of the tremendous emotions that would overtake all
reasoning I had.
I do know one thing though, these two should be detained indefinitely and
they deserve it too.you may say they have been rehabilitated but it doesn't
change the fact that they took pleasure from an evil vile act of torturing a
baby for the sake of it. Let them suffer untill *their* life ends, just as
James had to suffer untill his life ended, also friends and loved ones of
James bulger who have to suffer 'till their life ends. there's no reprieve
for them.
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y.co.uk> wrote in news:Tlhac.3471$6n5....@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
> These were two wicked little bastards who knew exactly what they were
> doing, taking enjoyment out of beating and torturing a terrified
> innocent child, Probably because they were simply bored and where
> looking for some excitement.Surely the parents should take some of the
> blame for their actions.
Are you so sure? Can I see your child psychology qualifications please?
Sure they must be mis-wired, but so would most children of that age, if
left to watch cert 18 horror films without anyone putting that
information into context for them. You cannot call any child at that
age evil, they simply don't have social values. It's like kids sticking
fireworks to cat's collars...are they on a par with Ian Braidy or Dr.
Shipman? They simply have a poor grasp of ethical behaviour. Evil has
nothing to do with it.
> What is it that makes a person man or child go beyond the bounds of
> human decency? Do they deserve to die? I'm not sure about that one, I
> know if I was related to the murdered child then I would have no
> problem with that question because of the tremendous emotions that
> would overtake all reasoning I had.
And that is why we thank God you are not a judge ;-)
> I do know one thing though, these two should be detained indefinitely
> and they deserve it too.you may say they have been rehabilitated but
> it doesn't change the fact that they took pleasure from an evil vile
> act of torturing a baby for the sake of it. Let them suffer untill
> *their* life ends, just as James had to suffer untill his life ended,
> also friends and loved ones of James bulger who have to suffer 'till
> their life ends. there's no reprieve for them.
So since you have admitted that your reasoning is based on "tremendous
emotions that overtake all reasoning" Do you think it would be safe to
leave the outcome of this to experieinced professional, who don't let
their emotions get in the way?
I would like you to reply and offer your factual evidence on how you
know that they "took pleasure" out of what they did? Or is this just
another example of your emotions overcoming the facts of the case, and
making you embellish it to justify it all to you?
I will say one more thing...Have you ever read "Lord of the Flies"? I
think that book sums up this case, and the reason why the parents are to
blame.
POD {铱觹
> Who said anything about lynching anyone?? - The pupose here is to stop
> these two boys being given complete anonymity. The facts are:
>
> 1. These boys lives have now improved drastically as a direct result
> of them torturing and killing a baby.
>
> I think it would be very safe to say most people feel these boys have
> not served enough time in prison. Are you happy for the government to
> say these boys are now totally rehabilitated and safe, and that they
> will be able to live anywhere without you knowing. How many times has
> the authorities been wrong in cases like this?
> Has anything been said regards the rehabilitation of their parents? Of
> course the parents are responsible and should have been held
> accountable but on the other hand I still find it very hard to believe
> a 10 year old child not knowing that causing pain and death to another
> child to be wrong.
>
> Marc
Well Marc, you may not personally be interested in a lynching, but if
that information was to come out, many other people would be. So be
content with the fact that wherever the two of them are on this planet,
the local law enforcement agencies are fully aware of them, and probably
follow their movements quite closely.
As to your argument that they are having an improved life? Well maybe,
on one hand, they could be living in some place like Canada or
Australia, which they may never have done other wise, but balance that
out with the fact that they probably live every day wondering if anyone
is coming for them? Do you envisage them living in appartments in
Sidney, overlooking the opera house, getting hand-outs to enable them to
enjoy lifes riches, or are they in a little dust ball town in Wagga
wagga, working as night security guards at a metalworks?
p.mc
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> "p.mc"
> <p.mc@Idon'tknowwhyIbothermungingmyaddress'causeIstillgettonsofshiteanyw
> a
> y.co.uk> wrote in news:Tlhac.3471$6n5....@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
> > These were two wicked little bastards who knew exactly what they were
> > doing, taking enjoyment out of beating and torturing a terrified
> > innocent child, Probably because they were simply bored and where
> > looking for some excitement.Surely the parents should take some of the
> > blame for their actions.
POD
> Are you so sure? Can I see your child psychology qualifications please?
p.mc
I don't need to have a degree in child psychology to know that they were
wicked little bastards, and niether does the rest of the world,that is a
fact. You may need conformation from a child psychologist to make your mind
up for you, but sometimes common sense is all you need.
POD
> Sure they must be mis-wired, but so would most children of that age, if
> left to watch cert 18 horror films without anyone putting that
> information into context for them. You cannot call any child at that >
age evil,
p.mc
So obviously you don't think that what they did was Evil, more like they
didn't know how to interact and behave around a small child so they just
wickedly killed him.
POD
> they simply don't have social values. It's like kids sticking
> fireworks to cat's collars..
p.mc
Now that's wicked.
POD
> are they on a par with Ian Braidy or Dr.
> Shipman? They simply have a poor grasp of ethical behaviour. Evil has
> nothing to do with it.
p.mc
No I don't think that Kids who stick fireworks to cats collars are on a par
with Ian Braidy or Dr. Shipman. I think you'd have to be a fucking idiot to
come to that conclusion. But as I said, and I quote;
"What is it that makes a person
man or child go beyond the
bounds of human decency"
Now I would say there is a fine line between wickedness and evil, and as I
quoted I'd say they crossed that boundary and beyond into the latter.I
think that's pretty fair to say.
>>p.mc
>> Do they deserve to die? I'm not sure about that one, I
> > know if I was related to the murdered child then I would have no
> > problem with that question because of the tremendous emotions that
> > would overtake all reasoning I had.
> POD
> And that is why we thank God you are not a judge ;-)
p.mc
In the previous section "Do they deserve to die?" I was just answering the
question from two points of view. Mine being that I personally would not
like to see them pay with their lives if I'm honest. But from the relatives
point of view I can see which view they would prefer, it's a perfectly
natural reaction to take , as I was putting my foot in their shoes I think
it's fair to say that in their state of minds all reasoning goes out the
window.
>> p.mc
> > I do know one thing though, these two should be detained indefinitely
> > and they deserve it too.you may say they have been rehabilitated but
> > it doesn't change the fact that they took pleasure from an evil vile
> > act of torturing a baby for the sake of it. Let them suffer untill
> > *their* life ends, just as James had to suffer untill his life ended,
> > also friends and loved ones of James bulger who have to suffer 'till
> > their life ends. there's no reprieve for them.
p.mc
And I'll stand by that. Rather than an eye for an eye, at least they will
share their suffering as the relatives have to, in my opinion that is a fair
punishment.But that *is only my opinion* which I'm allowing to view.
>POD
> So since you have admitted that your reasoning is based on "tremendous
> emotions that overtake all reasoning" Do you think it would be safe to
> leave the outcome of this to experieinced professional, who don't let
> their emotions get in the way?
p.mc
I think you'll find you've misunderstood that part, as I've explained that
was me seeing it from a relatives point of view not mine,although I do agree
with you that matters of law should be dealt by proffesionals with an
unbiased view.
> POD
> I would like you to reply and offer your factual evidence on how you
> know that they "took pleasure" out of what they did?
p.mc
Well let's face it, you don't have to be a brain surgeon, child psychologist
or particulary clever to come to the conclusion that they took pleasure in
their actions,come on, even you have to agree with that surely.
> POD
> Or is this just
> another example of your emotions overcoming the facts of the case, and
> making you embellish it to justify it all to you?
p.mc
I think I've covered that bit already so I won't go on.
> POD
> I will say one more thing...Have you ever read "Lord of the Flies"? I
> think that book sums up this case, and the reason why the parents are to
> blame.
p.mc
Let's hope that not all kids left to their own devices make the desicion to
murder because of the lack of adult intervention.
Regards
p.mc
POD {铱觹
>
>
> p.mc
> > > These were two wicked little bastards who knew exactly what they
> > > were
>> > doing, taking enjoyment out of beating and torturing a terrified
>> > innocent child, Probably because they were simply bored and where
>> > looking for some excitement.Surely the parents should take some of
>> > the blame for their actions.
>
> POD
>> Are you so sure? Can I see your child psychology qualifications
>> please?
>
> p.mc
> I don't need to have a degree in child psychology to know that they
> were wicked little bastards, and niether does the rest of the
> world,that is a fact. You may need conformation from a child
> psychologist to make your mind up for you, but sometimes common sense
> is all you need.
I use to do that, but then it hit me "Why do people waste money making
TV adverts" a TV advert has never gotten me to change my buying habits,
in fact more often than not I'll stop buying something if they make a
crap advert(Ikea). So why make them? Then I met my in-laws...fell for
them every time, if it says it on the telly it must be true! So I long
ago gave up on the idea that every other person in the world thinks like
me. So statements like "Neither does the rest of the world" are just
plain silly. And so is making your own conclusions and proclaiming them
as fact. All the ruddy idiots who phone Radio Merseyside up to moan to
Roger Morris get duelly slapped down if they come on talking like that,
Roger just slips in a squestion that derails their whole argument, and
leaves the person going "I...I...I..."
So you can't claim that they were evil, just because you have projected
those acts onto yourself and found them evil, and you can't claim they
reveled in what they did, as we don't know. You make several references
to the word "wicked" in your reply, and that is more realistic, as
children can be the most wicked creatures on this earth, and it's not
down to them being evil, it's down to them not having formed a complete
definition of good in their concience. My youngest is two and he has
pushed me this year, to see how far he can go, and boy has he been a
sadistic little monster with some things, but after a year of seeing my
annoyance and various forms of punishment, he is developing. Now it
will need refining, as his understanding is mainly black and white,
that's wrong, that's right, it'll be a good many years before he masters
all the gray areas. It's wrong to brick that person's windows, but what
harm can it be ringing the door bell and running away....10 times a
night? I've got 14 year old kids doing that still in my road! and 22
years later, when some snotty kid is doing it back to them, they'll
finally understand what a pain in the arse they were!
Now if I had spent this last year down the pub with some 14 year old
schoolie looking after my youngest...I'd hate to think what he would be
like now...I may even agree that he would be pure evil ;-)
>> POD
>> I will say one more thing...Have you ever read "Lord of the Flies"?
>> I think that book sums up this case, and the reason why the parents
>> are to blame.
>
> p.mc
> Let's hope that not all kids left to their own devices make the
> desicion to murder because of the lack of adult intervention.
>
Don't you believe it, just look at the levels of vile bile 13 year old
school girls can throw at each other, Hand Saddam over to a bunch of
school girls, and they'll have him in tears and singing about where is
WOMD are hidden. Yet when they reach 25, they'll be horrified at how
nasty they used to be. We all appear to quickly forget what little
bastards we used to be as children. Sticking matches in car tyre valves?
breaking windows? Yelling "Look at the spaz in the wheelchair!"
Shoplifting, robbing car badges...all honest fun to your average
teenager, because they don't have a bleeding clue as to the
consiquences! and that is the crux of the matter, do you think that the
kid who straps fireworks to a cat thinks that the cat may be killed? No
the cat is just gonna get the fright of it's life and run off, they
don't have a clue, even at 17, driving their cars, doing 50 in a 30,
because they are Colin McRea now, the best driver in the world, and
totally bulletproof! Yet would you call any of them evil?
Now if you picture yourself strpping a firework to a cat, you know the
outcome, and so for you to do it would be evil, but you just can't
project your self judgement onto kids doing it. What will a teenager
always say when you confront them with a demand to exstrapolate the
consiquence of their actions? "I don't know..." it's always the same,
you say "What were you thinking?!?!?!" "I don't know" and the truth is,
they don't, this will be the first time they actually think about
it...and that is the case with Venables and Thompson. When asked why
they did it, guess what they said...?
epona
communal and individual feeling of guilt at not having saved Jamie. I
cannot begin to comprehend the level of grief experienced by his young
parents at the loss of their son in such dreadful circumstances. I do not
condone the actions of Thompson and Venables in any way. I think both of
these boys had their own particular difficulties in their lives and this
does not necessarily mean they failed to learn the difference from right and
wrong.
However, they are now men and have to live each day with this terrible act
on their conscience. In my work with people who have murdered unless they
are diagnosed psychopaths, this is a huge burden to face on a daily basis.
If the crime committed was publicly found to be so unbelievably abhorrent,
this magnifies the burden of conscience. Anonymity will only stop those
with a lynch mob mentality finding these young men it wont stop them living
with themselves.
Scare mongering is a dangerous game - those involved I suggest have allowed
emotion to overcome rational thinking - the mentality the same people find
abhorrent in many prison inmates
Finally whether we think the judicial system in this country is right or
wrong in its processes It is a system we have all signed up to either by
vote or by default through failing to vote, by are own political and
community activities or our total lack of involvement. Whilst I myself find
fault with many of its practices. We have to abide by it.
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> Finally whether we think the judicial system in this country is right
> or wrong in its processes It is a system we have all signed up to
> either by vote or by default through failing to vote, by are own
> political and community activities or our total lack of involvement.
> Whilst I myself find fault with many of its practices. We have to
> abide by it.
Good point!
p.mc
> "p.mc"
> <p.mc@Idon'tknowwhyIbothermungingmyaddress'causeIstillgettonsofshiteanyw
> a
> y.co.uk> wrote in news:3nAac.6852$tZ5...@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
So statements like "Neither does the rest of the world" are just
> plain silly.
Fair point. I was pissed off.
> So you can't claim that they were evil, just because you have projected
> those acts onto yourself and found them evil.
Evil is described as:
1.Morally objectionable behavior.
2.That which causes harm or destruction or misfortune.
3.The quality of being morally wrong in principle or practice.
4.Tending to cause great harm.
I think it's fair to say that the acts of the two boys come under four of
these descriptions, especially #4 wouldn't you?
> You make several references
> to the word "wicked" in your reply, and that is more realistic, as
> children can be the most wicked creatures on this earth, and it's not
> down to them being evil, it's down to them not having formed a complete
> definition of good in their concience. My youngest is two and he has
> pushed me this year, to see how far he can go, and boy has he been a
> sadistic little monster with some things, but after a year of seeing my
> annoyance and various forms of punishment, he is developing. Now it
> will need refining, as his understanding is mainly black and white,
> that's wrong, that's right, it'll be a good many years before he masters
> all the gray areas. It's wrong to brick that person's windows, but what
> harm can it be ringing the door bell and running away....10 times a
> night? I've got 14 year old kids doing that still in my road! and 22
> years later, when some snotty kid is doing it back to them, they'll
> finally understand what a pain in the arse they were!
In respect, your child pushing you, and kids playing knockerdash is hardly
in the same league as what these two done. so you cannot use that as an
example as to the actions of these boys. All you are doing is telling me
something that is common knowledge to most adults.
> > p.mc
> > Let's hope that not all kids left to their own devices make the
> > desicion to murder because of the lack of adult intervention.
> >
> Don't you believe it, just look at the levels of vile bile 13 year old
> school girls can throw at each other, Hand Saddam over to a bunch of
> school girls, and they'll have him in tears and singing about where is
> WOMD are hidden. Yet when they reach 25, they'll be horrified at how
> nasty they used to be.
Maturity.
> We all appear to quickly forget what little
> bastards we used to be as children. Sticking matches in car tyre valves?
> breaking windows?
Mischievous.
Yelling "Look at the spaz in the wheelchair!"
Cruel...
> Shoplifting, robbing car badges...all honest fun to your average
> teenager, because they don't have a bleeding clue as to the
> consiquences! and that is the crux of the matter, do you think that the
> kid who straps fireworks to a cat thinks that the cat may be killed? No
> the cat is just gonna get the fright of it's life and run off, they
> don't have a clue, even at 17, driving their cars, doing 50 in a 30,
> because they are Colin McRea now, the best driver in the world, and
> totally bulletproof! Yet would you call any of them evil?
No I wouldn't call them evil, for the simple fact that these are all very
natural
events that occur during the proccess of reaching adulthood for many kids,
whereas I see abducting and torturing a terrified innocent child pleading
for his mother going through pain that only we can try to imagine, is not
added
to your list. Try adding this to your list then answer the question
yourself, I'd
be extremely interested in your answer and await your reply with your
reasons.
> Now if you picture yourself strapping a firework to a cat, you know the
> outcome, and so for you to do it would be evil, but you just can't
> project your self judgement onto kids doing it.
So by not knowing the definition of evil, it's impossible to do an evil act
or ever be responsible for evilness. Or I can't catergorise them as being
evil because
they don't understand the description of evil. Or I have no right to freedom
of speech
or opinion 'cause of the lack of their understanding?
> What will a teenager
> always say when you confront them with a demand to exstrapolate the
> consiquence of their actions? "I don't know..." it's always the same,
> you say "What were you thinking?!?!?!" "I don't know" and the truth is,
> they don't, this will be the first time they actually think about
> it...and that is the case with Venables and Thompson. When asked why
> they did it, guess what they said...?
I don't know,
but does that excuse Evilness?
POD {铱觹
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> but does that excuse Evilness?
>
> p.mc
I just don't think you can say a 10/11 year old is "evil" I think evil
is a real sickness you have to mature into. Evil is knowing right from
wrong and gleefully choosing to perform wrong anyway. Now if these two
lads had been found to have had scrapbooks of doodles and notes on how
they intended to perform such an horrific an act as they did, I would
side with you, but I think they didn't go to the Strand with any such
thing in mind, and I feel the "Lord of the Flies" theory kicked in and
it went to it's sickening final extreme, and yes, they knew they did
wrong, and they showed remorse. And for me, that doesn't signify
"evil" So in the same way, I am confident that society is safe from
them.
So to bring this full circle back to the original post... which claimed
that the two boys should not have the right to secrecy, because they are
sat their together planning who to kill next, is rubbish. If either boy
did have a mental illness, then it would have well been picked up, and
they would not have gotten out. Beside I'm sure they are on opposite
sides of the planet from each other, and for sure, both of them are
spending all their time looking over their shoulders to be thinking of
mounting a crime spree.
And p.mc, it's been a pleasure having this debate with you. Not that
I'm saying it's over or anything ;-)
p.mc
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Ditto... Ok I can see it's wearing thin so let's agree to disagree, there is
no proof of premeditation so let's just say in the eyes of an adult it was
an evil act.
But!!!.................................. nah! let's not go there. :-))
Best wishes
p.mc
toffeeman1
His thieving mother was only in the strand that day cause she was banned
from Towny.
Great tragedy but dont just blame the two brats who killed him.
A lot more in the equation
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> Hypercritical bunch you lot.
>
> His thieving mother was only in the strand that day cause she was banned
> from Towny.
>
> Great tragedy but dont just blame the two brats who killed him.
>
> A lot more in the equation
What do you mean you lot? We've been discussing the definition of evil,
apart from the original post, how are the rest of us hypercritical?
p.mc
vicinity of one of the boys? quite unexpected !
> the fact that they probably live every day wondering if anyone
> is coming for them? Do you envisage them living in apartments in
> Sidney, overlooking the opera house, getting hand-outs to enable them to
> enjoy life's riches, or are they in a little dust ball town in Wagga
> wagga, working as night security guards at a metalwork's?
I guess if the papers are right, at least this one isn't worried too much
about reprisals, living amongst us in an apparently stylish new build
apartment and a nice office job too. it's hardly Wagga Wagga.
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> What did you think of the piece in the Echo claiming the lifestyle and
> vicinity of one of the boys? quite unexpected !
Don't read the Echo as a rule, just look at the sport pages when I visit my
folks. If fact I don't buy any newspapers, as 98% of the time it's made up
bullshit, or like yesterdays Mirror, the first full SEVEN pages are all
about Beckham.