Novotel Hotel
David Carley
able to get a job soon. :-)
David.
kat
> I got an appication off Novotel Hotel on Tuesday and hopefully I
> should be able to get a job soon. :-)
>
Best of Luck. :-)
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kat
>^..^<
David Carley
"smicker" <ross...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:11:35 -0000, "kat" <k...@ntalk.org> wrote:
>
> >David Carley said
> >> I got an appication off Novotel Hotel on Tuesday and hopefully I
> >> should be able to get a job soon. :-)
> >>
> >
> >Best of Luck. :-)
>
> get a job these days.
> smicker
Yer, Its pretty hard. Its because I haven't offically left school yet. If I
went to Macdonalds, They would just employ anybody.
David.
smicker
<david....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Yer, Its pretty hard. Its because I haven't offically left school yet. If I
>went to Macdonalds, They would just employ anybody.
Given your interests and that the weather is improving I would have
thought you would have been better off going around your estate with
leaflets advertising your services as a gardener. My son is a fully
skilled tool maker and he reckons on earning Ł15 ph doing peoples
gardens for them. The best trade for money now is plumbing and it pays
well if you are self employed too.
smicker
David Carley
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:21:38 -0000, "David Carley"
> <david....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >Yer, Its pretty hard. Its because I haven't offically left school yet. If
I
> >went to Macdonalds, They would just employ anybody.
>
> Given your interests and that the weather is improving I would have
> thought you would have been better off going around your estate with
> leaflets advertising your services as a gardener. My son is a fully
> gardens for them. The best trade for money now is plumbing and it pays
> well if you are self employed too.
> smicker
Yer. I could put leaftlets out to peoples houses and its up to them if they
want me.
David.
vg4cysss7001
<ross...@hotmail.com> writes
>>> I got an appication off Novotel Hotel on Tuesday and hopefully I
>>> should be able to get a job soon. :-)
>>>
>>
>>Best of Luck. :-)
>
>get a job these days.
>smicker
My working life began in the 60's when it seemed easier to get a job,
but, having been made redundant 4 times, keeping them was a problem :-)
Even then, it was necessary to get on Tebbits bike in order to find a
worthwhile job. I have little sympathy for those who will not chase work
and admire at least the spirit of our current influx of (im)migrant
workers.
I can recall how it felt in West Germany (as was) to be a
'Gastarbeiter'.
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smicker
<david....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Yer. I could put leaftlets out to peoples houses and its up to them if they
>want me.
You are at a disadvantage in that you do not drive but on the other
hand you live on a big estate where there are many older folks who
cannot maintain their gardens them selves.
My boy was short of overtime where he works sometime ago and so he
decided to try his hand at odd jobs and most of his work turned out to
be gardening or small building repairs. He started off with a card in
a shop window and then he was also contacted by another chap who had
put an ad in the paper and he had more work than he could handle and
wanted my boy to help him out. My boy has his own lawnmower and garden
tools and during the good weather he turns down overtime at work
because he makes more doing odd jobs at £15 ph. This year he has moved
house and he will have plenty of work to do on his own property so I
think he has finished doing the odd jobs. He wouldn't advertise in the
paper himself because he had more work than he could handle and didn't
want to employ anyone.
smicker
smicker
wrote:
I was repairing m/cycles when I was still in education and when ever I
came out of work I traded cars and m/cycles. I have always been a
trader until I became a crip.
smicker
Skint
wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:00:01 +0000, vg4cysss7001 <127@[127.0.0.1]>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <ifgj50d2fe808shf2...@4ax.com>, smicker
>><ross...@hotmail.com> writes
>>>On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:11:35 -0000, "kat" <k...@ntalk.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>David Carley said
>>>>> I got an appication off Novotel Hotel on Tuesday and hopefully I
>>>>> should be able to get a job soon. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Best of Luck. :-)
>>>
>>>Yes best of luck David. I never realised just how difficult it is to
>>>get a job these days.
>>>smicker
>>
>>My working life began in the 60's when it seemed easier to get a job,
>>but, having been made redundant 4 times, keeping them was a problem :-)
>>
>>Even then, it was necessary to get on Tebbits bike in order to find a
>>worthwhile job. I have little sympathy for those who will not chase work
>>and admire at least the spirit of our current influx of (im)migrant
>>workers.
>>I can recall how it felt in West Germany (as was) to be a
>>'Gastarbeiter'.
You're depressing me Smicker.
I don't think I'm cut out for the rat race. Might have to try and go
my own way and all of that nonsense. Stupider people have run their
own businesses and succeeded, but on the other hand cleverer people
have slaughtered their selves doing the same. I think it might have
something to do with motivation and commitment, in which case I'm
mugged by my own cynicism and lethargy.
David Carley
"Skint" <aqw...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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I'll try advertising in a shop window sometime next month when the weather
gets warmer.
David.
smicker
wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:11:22 +0000, smicker <ross...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:00:01 +0000, vg4cysss7001 <127@[127.0.0.1]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <ifgj50d2fe808shf2...@4ax.com>, smicker
>>><ross...@hotmail.com> writes
>>>>On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:11:35 -0000, "kat" <k...@ntalk.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>David Carley said
>>>>>> I got an appication off Novotel Hotel on Tuesday and hopefully I
>>>>>> should be able to get a job soon. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Best of Luck. :-)
>>>>
>>>>Yes best of luck David. I never realised just how difficult it is to
>>>>get a job these days.
>>>>smicker
>>>
>>>My working life began in the 60's when it seemed easier to get a job,
>>>but, having been made redundant 4 times, keeping them was a problem :-)
>>>
>>>Even then, it was necessary to get on Tebbits bike in order to find a
>>>worthwhile job. I have little sympathy for those who will not chase work
>>>and admire at least the spirit of our current influx of (im)migrant
>>>workers.
>>>I can recall how it felt in West Germany (as was) to be a
>>>'Gastarbeiter'.
>
>You're depressing me Smicker.
It wasn't me. My working life started in the late 50's.
>I don't think I'm cut out for the rat race. Might have to try and go
>my own way and all of that nonsense. Stupider people have run their
>own businesses and succeeded, but on the other hand cleverer people
>have slaughtered their selves doing the same. I think it might have
>something to do with motivation and commitment, in which case I'm
>mugged by my own cynicism and lethargy.
It is the best way Wayne. Working on your own account stops you
getting lethargic once you start to get hungry;-) You will change
once you are responsible for a family.
smicker
Skint
wrote:
I know, just kidding :-)
>>I don't think I'm cut out for the rat race. Might have to try and go
>>my own way and all of that nonsense. Stupider people have run their
>>own businesses and succeeded, but on the other hand cleverer people
>>have slaughtered their selves doing the same. I think it might have
>>something to do with motivation and commitment, in which case I'm
>>mugged by my own cynicism and lethargy.
>
>It is the best way Wayne. Working on your own account stops you
>getting lethargic once you start to get hungry;-) You will change
>once you are responsible for a family.
>smicker
I don't think that's going to happen any time soon!
kat
>
> I'll try advertising in a shop window sometime next month when the
> weather gets warmer.
>
If you could pick up some work for the summer, you'll have plenty of
time then, you'll get settled into something for later once you are at
college. It could work out very well.
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kat
>^..^<
smicker
Yes but but David should start advertising now so folks note his
telephone number for later. Those who already have arrangements from
last year will be making their arrangements again now so he will miss
out if he doesn't get his adverts up now;-)
smicker
smicker
That's a good idea but make sure you advertise your rates as well or
you will have people taking advantage of your youth very quickly.
smicker
smicker
wrote:
>>It is the best way Wayne. Working on your own account stops you
>>getting lethargic once you start to get hungry;-) You will change
>>once you are responsible for a family.
>>smicker
>
>I don't think that's going to happen any time soon!
You never know Wayne. If your foot slips you could easily find
yourself being a father;-) I had at least 2 when I was your age.
smicker
kat
A foot? someone is boasting I think. :-0
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kat
>^..^<
kat
Oh he should. I was just thinking, that he'll be finished school soon,
and have a lot of summer to fill, that's when he wants the work, then
some steady jobs later on, but he won't have so much time for big ones.
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kat
>^..^<
smicker
Yes not arf,I should have said if he got a bit of wheel spin;-)
smicker
smicker
Most of the stuff my boy does is mowing grass to start with and then
he gets asked if he can do something else and he takes his pick as
there is so much work for him to choose from.
smicker
Skint
wrote:
I'll wager that back then avoiding pregnancy was a lot more difficult
when you misplace your 9 nine yards.
Skint
kat
>> Oh he should. I was just thinking, that he'll be finished school
>> soon, and have a lot of summer to fill, that's when he wants the
>> work, then some steady jobs later on, but he won't have so much time
>> for big ones.
>
> Most of the stuff my boy does is mowing grass to start with and then
> he gets asked if he can do something else and he takes his pick as
> there is so much work for him to choose from.
It's a good way to start, with a few basic things which some people can
no longer cope with.
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kat
>^..^<
kat
No, it didn't, not really. So what did you mean, or can't you remember?
:-)
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kat
>^..^<
Skint
I meant that accidental pregnancy isn't that common these days, unless
you're almost purposely neglectful towards the issues.
kat
Amazing how many people are neglectful. We have the highest teenage
pregnancy rate in Europe I believe. :-/
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kat
>^..^<
Skint
And right now they're blaming it on sex education being too explicit!
I don't think it's something you can counter really. I think the best
prevention is dating a girl with a really tough father. :-)
kat
<g>
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kat
>^..^<
David Carley
trying to wait until i here whats going to happen with the Novotel Hotel job
first as I haven't heard if they have recieved my appication form yet.
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David.
http://davesweb9.tripod.com/
smicker
That is where the majority of his custom will come from. Old folks on
good pensions or disability benefits who are afraid of the council
moaning about their gardens. The big problem is that as David is a
school boy they will expect him to be a soft touch or they pay him as
if they are doing hima favour. It's good to make sure your customers
know it is a business arrangement and if you do it properly you will
not need a full time job because there is a lot of money in it as long
as you can cover the winter months with painting and decorating. So
you make sure that the boys you know from school who take
apprenticeships as plumbers, electrician gas fitters and builders
remain in your social circle as you will be feeding each other. There
is no need for you to find a job if you set your mind to organising
things around the seasons and don't waste your money paying for a
pension or health insurance either.
smicker
smicker
Our first child was actually planned so that we could get married;-)
Mrs smicker was 17. That 9 yards is a saying that I am not familiar
with. I am getting bliidy old and crotchety Wayne I am afraid:-(
smicker
smicker
wrote:
Heh heh Wayne. In the heat of then moment everyone is neglectful
especially if she wants to stop work and raise kids on your salary
then it becomes mercenary:-(
smicker
smicker
wrote:
You could find her even more determined to be free and independent;-)
smicker
smicker
I think that is because todays teenager have the ground kicked out
from beneath there feet and are defeated as soon as they leave school
(if they are not already excluded) and bring up children becomes a way
to get a council place and benefits too. The boys don't seem to leave
home these days either. On either side of me I have lads going on 30
who still live at home.
smicker
smicker
<david....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>I will advertise what I can like Smicker says like Rates etc. I am just
>trying to wait until i here whats going to happen with the Novotel Hotel job
>first as I haven't heard if they have recieved my appication form yet.
I would not do that myself. Always have more than one iron in the fire
David or the Novotel will also think you are dependant upon them and
if you actually get a job there, they will expect you to be grateful
and loyal etc. If they want that they should get a spaniel and you
should get some independence and get up and go too;-)
smicker
kat
>
> Heh heh Wayne. In the heat of then moment everyone is neglectful
> especially if she wants to stop work and raise kids on your salary
> then it becomes mercenary:-(
> smicker
Raising kids is in no way "stopping work"!!!
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kat
>^..^<
kat
>> Amazing how many people are neglectful. We have the highest teenage
>> pregnancy rate in Europe I believe. :-/
>
> I think that is because todays teenager have the ground kicked out
> from beneath there feet and are defeated as soon as they leave school
> (if they are not already excluded) and bring up children becomes a way
> to get a council place and benefits too. The boys don't seem to leave
> home these days either. On either side of me I have lads going on 30
> who still live at home.
My baby boy left a few weeks back, just before he was 22. I was sad,
but pleased he made the effort!
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kat
>^..^<
smicker
We were heart broken when our last one left and the house became quiet
LOL we got used to it and now we get annoyed if they visit and stay
too long;-)
smicker
kat
>> Raising kids is in no way "stopping work"!!!
>
> Indeed "properly" raising kids is not. However, living on an estate I
> see girls brought up by single mothers who accept it as their way of
> life too. They're mothers successfully bring up a tribe of kids and
> the father is not required for anything other than cash. One family I
> know have about 8 kids most of whom have different fathers and an
> absolutely brilliant mother. Now her kids are sprogging and she is
> happily looking after their children while they continue playing the
> field.
I'd say she just loves kids!
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kat
>^..^<
kat
I had everyone over /home call it what you want, Saturday. 9 for
dinner. Mother's day is hard work. :-/
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kat
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bill
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But why is this? I think the law needs to looked at again - if a guy has
sex with an under age girl its time he was made to be responsible for the
outcome - the girl is normal frightened to say who he is - I think she
should be made to say - with DNA its easily sorted out now.
Bill
kat
> "kat" <k...@ntalk.org> wrote in message
>> Amazing how many people are neglectful. We have the highest teenage
>> pregnancy rate in Europe I believe. :-/
>>
>>
>> --
>> kat
>> >^..^<
>>
>>
>
> But why is this? I think the law needs to looked at again - if a guy
> has sex with an under age girl its time he was made to be responsible
> for the outcome - the girl is normal frightened to say who he is - I
> think she should be made to say - with DNA its easily sorted out now.
>
There are plenty over the age of consent but still teenagers!
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kat
>^..^<
bill
"kat" <k...@ntalk.org> wrote in message news:y2K7c.1109$%l2.28@newsfe1-win...
Maybe contraception should be compulsory - something has to be done.
Bill