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Re: Hybrids: Sick And Twisted Chimeras Are Being created in labs
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Jul 30, 2013, 3:41:51 PM7/30/13
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(Sorry about double posting to alt.paranormal - I forgot I'd meant to pass
it on to other groups.)
<luke...@gmail.com> wrote on 13th July:
>2 Esdras 5:8-10
>Common English Bible (CEB)
>8 Chasms will open up in many places, and fire will be shot forth
>frequently.
>Wild beasts will roam beyond their territory,
>AND WOMEN WILL GIVE BIRTH TO MONSTERS.
>9 Salt waters will be found in sources of freshwater. Friends everywhere
>will begin to fight each >other. Reason will be hidden, and intelligence
>will go into hiding.
>10 Many will look for it, but they won�t find it, and injustice and lust
>will be multiplied on earth.
>
> http://luminarium.freeforums.org/hybrids-sick-and-twisted-chimeras-are-being-created-in-labs-t60.html
That quote doesn't really apply here, Luke: nobody (so far as we know!) is
proposing to implant one of these embryos into a human mother. The hybrids
and chimeras will all be born to laboratory animals; they'll grow up firmly
on the far side of the imaginary line separating Us from Them, those
deserving pity from those anyone can do anything to. God help them all.
I'm not worried by these beings, but I am worried FOR them.
Speaking for myself, I've never believed that all other animals are
fundamentally different from humans, so this just comes as a further
horrible refinement of the things we inflict on sentient beings in the name
of science. But if this is something that otherwise unconcerned people will
revolt at - why, let them revolt!
All living things are "partly human" in the sense that we share genes (and
thus physical features) with them, anyway. A mouse whose intelligence has
been increased with human glial cells, as described in that article, has
more in common with humans than an ordinary mouse does (which is still quite
a lot, if you leave the much overhyped neocortex out of it), but probably
less than a macaque monkey, another common laboratory victim. That's not an
argument for abusing the mouse, but for leaving the macaque alone. They
have, in every way, some of our nature; they should have some of our rights.
Anything else seems to me unscientific humbug.
Incidentally, that mouse story reminds me irresistibly of "Mrs Frisby and
the Rats of NIMH", in which scientists genetically modified ten rats to
near-human intelligence; but the rats picked the locks on their cages, ran
off into the backwoods and founded an underground rat civilisation complete
with tiny electric lights nicked from a toy store. I'm 100% behind any mice
who bust out of the University of Rochester! :-)
--
A. B.
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<luke...@gmail.com> wrote on 13th July:
>2 Esdras 5:8-10
>Common English Bible (CEB)
>8 Chasms will open up in many places, and fire will be shot forth
>frequently.
>Wild beasts will roam beyond their territory,
>AND WOMEN WILL GIVE BIRTH TO MONSTERS.
>9 Salt waters will be found in sources of freshwater. Friends everywhere
>will begin to fight each >other. Reason will be hidden, and intelligence
>will go into hiding.
>10 Many will look for it, but they won�t find it, and injustice and lust
>will be multiplied on earth.
>
> http://luminarium.freeforums.org/hybrids-sick-and-twisted-chimeras-are-being-created-in-labs-t60.html
That quote doesn't really apply here, Luke: nobody (so far as we know!) is
proposing to implant one of these embryos into a human mother. The hybrids
and chimeras will all be born to laboratory animals; they'll grow up firmly
on the far side of the imaginary line separating Us from Them, those
deserving pity from those anyone can do anything to. God help them all.
I'm not worried by these beings, but I am worried FOR them.
Speaking for myself, I've never believed that all other animals are
fundamentally different from humans, so this just comes as a further
horrible refinement of the things we inflict on sentient beings in the name
of science. But if this is something that otherwise unconcerned people will
revolt at - why, let them revolt!
All living things are "partly human" in the sense that we share genes (and
thus physical features) with them, anyway. A mouse whose intelligence has
been increased with human glial cells, as described in that article, has
more in common with humans than an ordinary mouse does (which is still quite
a lot, if you leave the much overhyped neocortex out of it), but probably
less than a macaque monkey, another common laboratory victim. That's not an
argument for abusing the mouse, but for leaving the macaque alone. They
have, in every way, some of our nature; they should have some of our rights.
Anything else seems to me unscientific humbug.
Incidentally, that mouse story reminds me irresistibly of "Mrs Frisby and
the Rats of NIMH", in which scientists genetically modified ten rats to
near-human intelligence; but the rats picked the locks on their cages, ran
off into the backwoods and founded an underground rat civilisation complete
with tiny electric lights nicked from a toy store. I'm 100% behind any mice
who bust out of the University of Rochester! :-)
--
A. B.
><>
My e-mail address is zen177395 at zendotcodotuk, though I don't check that
account very often.
Post unto others as you would have them post unto you.
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