Re: The Inconvenience of the Magna Carta.
Farmer Giles
> One of the proxy government departments known as the Forestry Commission has,in true british establishment tradition,declared its intention to amend the Magna Carta.With arrogance akin to their cousins the large corporations,they intend to attack the poor and downtrodden by removing the peoples right under the magna carta to gather firewood from forests.
> The thread of oppression evident throughout the centuries is alive and well and as usual when the common man is up against it,
> is at its most vehement.
>
I wasn't aware that we had such a right. A few years ago it was
possible, on payment of a small charge, to be allowed by the FC to clear
up a small piece of forest after logging operations. This included
sawing up any damages trees, etc. that hadn't been taken away by the
fellers. As I live in an area surrounded by FC wodlands, I recently
wrote to them to enquire if They still did this. In their reply they
told that they no longer did because they could not allow vehicles on to
their land without insisting on millions of pounds worth of public
liability insurance cover.
William Black
"Farmer Giles" <gi...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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1. Millions of pounds of public liability cover would cost them a few
hundred quid a year, same as it does for anyone else.
2. Most of the 'rights' of Magna Carta have long gone. Along with the stuff
about valuables belonging to orphans and not allowing widows to be witnesses
in court.
What's left is trial by jury.
Oh yes, and Magna Carta was never enshrined in English law in its original
form anyway.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
Farmer Giles
Not exactly sure what your point is, but the reference to public
liability insurance was that each individual being allowed to drive on
FC land would have to have this amount of cover.
William Black
> Not exactly sure what your point is, but the reference to public liability
> insurance was that each individual being allowed to drive on FC land would
> have to have this amount of cover.
It's still dead cheap.
Go along to an English Heritage castle and you'll find they've got three
million quid's worth, so has every amateur theatrical group and your
friendly local vicarage garden party.
It's a pretend issue. You can buy 'third party' insurance for any open
space with public access for very little money.
How much do you think your local; council pays for its third party insurance
for your local park?
basho007
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and the rights and customs of the City of London! Like a little Monaco
or Liechtenstein.
>
> Oh yes, and Magna Carta was never enshrined in English law in its
> original form anyway.
>
In the 13th and 14th Century the original Charter was re-enacted (or re-
affirmed) many times, with variations.
You can find texts in Statutes at Large - so at least it is recongised as
a statute.
The problem of course is that no statute can be "enshrined" in the
English constitution, in formal terms.
The interesting aspect for me is the force the Magna Carta has on the
English consciousness - it continues to live and have force even as
almost all of it has been repealed by Parliament over the years.
William Black
"basho007" <ba...@deepnorth.org.jp> wrote in message
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They're a bit like the powers the queen has to refuse to sign an act of
parliament.
They have them as long as they don't use them...