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Steve

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Nov 11, 2002, 9:39:09 AM11/11/02
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I am about to take a gas fire out of an existing hearth to be replaced with
a new insert and log burning grate. Eventually there will a gas fire put in
when the wood runs out.
Can I leave the gas pipe capped off under the wood burning grate or does it
have to be totally removed?
If it is allowed presumably it would have to be a soldered cap on the end of
the pipe rather than a compression fitting to be totally safe ?
If it isn`t allowed, what would be the best way of running a new pipe in
easily without having to rip up the hearth or the insert ? (the insert is
cast iron).

TIA
Steve


Benjamin Aldred

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Nov 11, 2002, 9:09:53 PM11/11/02
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Not really seeing the site Steve, I wouldn't go for a solder fitting.
Remember that heat is used to put the solder cap on, so any heat will loosen
it back off.

Regs' state that "gas pipes must not come within 600 mm of naked flames" so
take it from there.

Please err' on the side of safety with gas.

Benny


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Steve

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Nov 12, 2002, 7:35:58 AM11/12/02
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"Benjamin Aldred" <benny.aldred@_SPAM_GUARD_blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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>
> Regs' state that "gas pipes must not come within 600 mm of naked flames"
so
> take it from there.
>
That can`t be right otherwise you wouldn`t be allowed to install a gas fire
!

Steve


Benjamin Aldred

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Nov 12, 2002, 9:16:02 AM11/12/02
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"Steve" <st...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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You miss the point. You say in your post that "a gas pipe is running close
to an open flame", not feeding a gas fire which has directional heat output
unlike a open fire, but even so, you wouldn't run the pipe feeding a gas
appliance directly in front of the burner unit. Also the point that, gas
appliances should be connected with a compression fitting from one continuos
piece of pipe from a stop cock, also compression type, which should be
placed within 600 mm of the appliance for servicing/testing purposes.

A pipe full of gas with its end near to an open flame, is a tragedy waiting
to happen.

Steve

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Nov 12, 2002, 11:51:42 AM11/12/02
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"Benjamin Aldred" <benny.aldred@_SPAM_GUARD_blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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> You miss the point. You say in your post that "a gas pipe is running
close
> to an open flame", not feeding a gas fire which has directional heat
output
> unlike a open fire, but even so, you wouldn't run the pipe feeding a gas
> appliance directly in front of the burner unit. Also the point that, gas
> appliances should be connected with a compression fitting from one
continuos
> piece of pipe from a stop cock, also compression type, which should be
> placed within 600 mm of the appliance for servicing/testing purposes.
>
> A pipe full of gas with its end near to an open flame, is a tragedy
waiting
> to happen.
>
Basically there is a gas pipe there currently which feeds a gas fire (open
flame type). I am removing the gas fire and replacing with a log burning
grate. At some point I will put a new gas fire (open flame) back in.
The reason I (ideally) want to leave the gas pipe there is for ease of
connection when I put in the new gas fire. If I remove the pipe I will have
to dig up the hearth or run it in front of the insert which would look
unsightly. Hence my question of a 'safe' way to terminate the pipe.

Steve


Benjamin Aldred

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Nov 12, 2002, 6:09:32 PM11/12/02
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"Steve" <st...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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First question is "Is there a stop cock on the pipe?"

If yes, then make sure it is turned off and cut back the pipe to allow the
new fire to be installed, then seal the end with a compression fitting stop
end and use PTFE tape on both the thread of the fitting and the end of the
pipe. Remember that you can re-use the compression nut for jointing a new
piece of pipe when you re-install your gas appliance

If no, then fit a gas stop cock to the pipe at a convenient point then
follow the end capping process above. Belt and braces are the safest in
this case.

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