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Fergus Lalor

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Sep 9, 2008, 1:05:27 PM9/9/08
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I had a small caddy for shampoo, soap etc. hanging in my shower for 15
years without problems. The caddy was suspended from a small adhesive
hook (adhesive area ca. 1 sq. in max) attached to one of the tiles.
Some months ago the hook suddenly detatched itself from the tile. Since
then I have totally failed to attach another adhesive hook to the
original - or any other - tile in the shower. I have tried several
hooks with differently sized adhesive areas - all greater than that of
the hook that survived for 15 years. Some stayed up for hours, some for
days, a few for weeks - but all fell off eventually. I have tried using
super glue on top of the hooks own adhesive without avail. My most
recent attempt involved large hooks manufactured by 3M, specifically
designed for shower use and claiming to hold a load of up to 3 kg, much
less than any load I put upon them. I meticulously followed the
instalment instructions - which, inter alia, required washing of the
tile with isopropyl alcohol followed by careful drying - but the hook
still detatched after a few days. It may be significant that most
detatchment events ocurred shortly after I had taken a shower so the
heat, humidity or hot water may be part of the problem. Even so, I am
completely baffled - especially given the that the original hook had
survived 15 years of identical conditions. Any suggestions for
overcoming this problem will be greatly appreciated.

robgraham

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Sep 9, 2008, 1:47:17 PM9/9/08
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"Fergus Lalor" <lalo...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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>I had a small caddy for shampoo, soap etc. hanging in my shower for 15
>years without problems. The caddy was suspended from a small adhesive hook
>(adhesive area ca. 1 sq. in max) attached to one of the tiles. Some months
>ago the hook suddenly detatched itself from the tile. Since then I have
>totally failed to attach another adhesive hook to the original - or any
>other - tile in the shower. I have tried several hooks with differently
>sized adhesive areas - all greater than that of the hook that survived for
>15 years. Some stayed up for hours, some for days, a few for weeks - but
>all fell off eventually. I have tried using super glue on top of the hooks
>own adhesive without avail.

This may be the problem. Given that the strength of a chain is that of its
weakest link, the superglue may be doing the job but the whole thing is let
down by the glue originally on the hook. Can you not remove - by grinding,
if necessary - the original glue before applying superglue?

Rob Graham


Kevin

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Sep 9, 2008, 2:33:54 PM9/9/08
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try silicone sealer

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Kevin R
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Al Gorism

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Sep 10, 2008, 11:15:40 AM9/10/08
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Kevin <donte...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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or 'Pinkgrip'construction adhesive.try toolstation.com. free delivery if
spending more than £10.00

ronny

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Sep 10, 2008, 2:34:45 PM9/10/08
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"Al Gorism" <O...@hotmail.net> wrote in message
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try some sticaflex (or similar name) from a car accessory shop, its used to
stick car spoilers etc


Andrew Gabriel

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Sep 10, 2008, 6:27:08 PM9/10/08
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In article <2008090918052716807-lalorfj40@eircomnet>,

Fergus Lalor <lalo...@eircom.net> writes:
> I had a small caddy for shampoo, soap etc. hanging in my shower for 15
> years without problems. The caddy was suspended from a small adhesive
> hook (adhesive area ca. 1 sq. in max) attached to one of the tiles.
> Some months ago the hook suddenly detatched itself from the tile. Since
> then I have totally failed to attach another adhesive hook to the
> original - or any other - tile in the shower. I have tried several
> hooks with differently sized adhesive areas - all greater than that of
> the hook that survived for 15 years. Some stayed up for hours, some for
> days, a few for weeks - but all fell off eventually. I have tried using
> super glue on top of the hooks own adhesive without avail. My most
> recent attempt involved large hooks manufactured by 3M, specifically
> designed for shower use and claiming to hold a load of up to 3 kg, much
> less than any load I put upon them. I meticulously followed the
> instalment instructions - which, inter alia, required washing of the
> tile with isopropyl alcohol followed by careful drying - but the hook

I would start with something to remove soap scum and hard water.
Showers are commonly covered in the thin layer (often too thin
to notice). I don't think alcohol will do anything for either;
you need something acidic.

> still detatched after a few days. It may be significant that most
> detatchment events ocurred shortly after I had taken a shower so the
> heat, humidity or hot water may be part of the problem. Even so, I am
> completely baffled - especially given the that the original hook had
> survived 15 years of identical conditions. Any suggestions for
> overcoming this problem will be greatly appreciated.

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Andrew Gabriel
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Keith W

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Sep 11, 2008, 5:39:54 AM9/11/08
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"Fergus Lalor" <lalo...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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I noticed my daughter has those suction cup type hooks on her tiles and they
have been up for years. Not just push on ones, the type where the hook
part is a lever and pulling it down into position lifts the centre of the
pad creating a pretty strong vacuum. Same idea as you used to get on meat
mincers to hold them on the worktop. Come to think of it I have a vice
tucked away that does the same thing.
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Keith W
Sunbury on Thames
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living)


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