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MuddyMike

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Dec 10, 2010, 6:37:45 AM12/10/10
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I have removed the pan from a downstairs toilet to make tiling the floor
easy. Question is when I re install it should it be bedded in something, if
so what? Or does it simply stand on the tiles?

Mike

Corporal Jones

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Dec 10, 2010, 12:08:28 PM12/10/10
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There is normally a hole each side of the pan, I always drill through
and put in brass screws then seal around the base with silicone sealant
(stops the drips from all party's from getting underneath & smelling)
without the screws every big arse that lands on the pot will tend to
make it wobble and displace it.

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"Don't panic don't panic"
Life will go on albeit somewhat reduced

Kipper at sea

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Dec 10, 2010, 12:13:01 PM12/10/10
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How was it fixed before you removed it from the floor down stairs ?

If I remember toilet bowls are fixed with 2 brass screws on timber
floors .Bedded on a bed of mortar on solid masonry floor. You'll soon
find out when you use it when it tips to one side

MuddyMike

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Dec 10, 2010, 12:41:18 PM12/10/10
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>"Kipper at sea" <keith...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>On Dec 10, 11:37 am, "MuddyMike" <n...@mattishall.org.uk> wrote:
>> I have removed the pan from a downstairs toilet to make tiling the floor
>> easy. Question is when I re install it should it be bedded in something,
>> if
>> so what? Or does it simply stand on the tiles?
>>
>> Mike

>How was it fixed before you removed it from the floor down stairs ?

It was fixed by two steel screws (that had rusted away) to the original
vinyl tiled floor and the PO had laid laminate over the vinyl badly cutting
it around the pan and filling the gaps with some sort of mastic gunge. Not
nice! The floor itself is concrete and I stripped all the old vinyl and
laminate before laying the new ceramic tiles.

I have stainless steel screws to hold it back down but was wondering if I
should bed it on something or just stand it on the new ceramic tiles before
screwing it down.

I realised today that I might have a problem drilling the floor to take the
new screws unless I can move the pan slightly away from the original
location as the old rusted screws are buried in the concrete under my new
tiles.

Mike

Kipper at sea

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Dec 10, 2010, 4:33:03 PM12/10/10
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On Dec 10, 5:41 pm, "MuddyMike" <n...@mattishall.org.uk> wrote:
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Yes you have the right idea. Just be very careful not to over tighen
the new screw as one turn to many will crack the base of the pan.

Kipper at sea

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Dec 10, 2010, 4:36:31 PM12/10/10
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Just to add a little bit of bedding under the base may help to take up
any unevenes in the floor.

MuddyMike

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Dec 10, 2010, 5:02:07 PM12/10/10
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Using what?

Mike


Kipper at sea

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Dec 11, 2010, 11:11:25 AM12/11/10
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1cement 2 soft or building sand. Not a sloppy mix, firm but not stiff.
When beded and screwed down wipe surplus away with a damp cloth.

Ledswinger

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Dec 14, 2010, 7:39:50 AM12/14/10
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On 10/12/2010 11:37, MuddyMike wrote:

If it is a normal pan held down with a couple of coach screws or
similar, those will hold it fine if properly fitted.

If you're feeling enthusiastic you could bed it into silicone sealant,
or "no more nails" but you don't need to.

Usual caveats about tightening any screws through sanitary ware apply -
over-tighten them and there will be an expensive "crack" sound.

led

lisastar

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Jan 17, 2011, 11:58:24 AM1/17/11
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lisastar wrote:
Great information! I would also put a sealer or cocking around the base.

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MuddyMike

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Jan 17, 2011, 1:48:06 PM1/17/11
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> Great information! I would also put a sealer or cocking around the base.
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Kin ell.
I just took a look at that thread via the link to home owners hub. How on
earth do you put up with all that advertising and other crap. I am so please
I found this newsgroup directly, I would have been long gone if I had to
sift through all that dross.

Mike


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