toilet pan with outlet to ground
emailuser
that the waste exit doesnt go horizontally but vertically down to the ground
, is this type still available ??? , any suggestions where to get similar
type
thanks in advance for any info
Janek Czekaj
toliet in an Edwardian house and, after about 100 years, the downstairs
toliet broke.
It's waste-pipe was contained inside the pan and went down vertically to
just underneath the concrete where it connected to an horizontal pipe.
Upon trying to get a replacement I was informed that such pans are now
illegal in all parts of the EEC apart from, oddly enough, France. Even
odder, the major manufacturers of these toilets for France is supposed to be
one or two UK companies. However, it is actually illegal to sell them here
in the UK - bizarre huh.
After reading several books, visiting several super-stores, etc, I
discovered that there are basically two types of pan made in the UK
nowdays - one with a horizontal waste-pipe and one with an upside down 'U'
waste-pipe which then connects to a horizontal pipe. I got the latter from
Wickes and, after several months of hunting, found a plumber to fit it. He
made a great job with the cememt first time but he did not connect the pan
to the original pipe properly and it leaked. He had to come back and do it
again and the second time the cement job was a bit of a mess.
I wish I had ignored family pleas to get in a plumber and had done it
myself. The difficult part was simply the breaking up of the original
concrete. Everything else was straight forward and, with hindsight, I
believe I could have done a better job myself. It looks more difficult that
it is but, admittedly, I got to watch an expert do it.
You can get both types of pans from Wickes - they come in basic white. Any
other colour and you will have to go to a specialist bathroom firm.
Hope this helps,
Jan.
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Bill
DIY store - I replaced mine with no problems.
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wanderer
Whilst modern toilets are indeed constructed with a horizontal
discharge spigot, there are a wide variety of pan connectors to join
that spigot onto the waste pipe. Multikwik do a wide range of
different styles, including what they call a space-saving bend which
actually bends slightly back on itself, for use if the outlet spigot
is physically above rather than slightly to one side of the vertical
waste pipe. I'd suggest you take yourself into any decent builders'
merchant and have a browse through the different types of pan
connectors available. I'd try to avoid the flexible type if possible.
Have a look at http://www.multikwik.com/
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Janek Czekaj
warning, if your pan is similar to mine most of the off-the-shelf plastic
connectors are such that it moves your new pan forward several inches. This
can result in the pan no longer sitting on the concrete and two concerns I
had was a) the pan being half on the concrete base and half on the
floorboards and b) the door of the toilet closing.
It took a moderate amount of work to ensure the pan sat on the concrete
without going over the edge and, phew, the door - with seat upon the pan
(important as the seat widens the rim of the pan) - just closes.
So, if your original pan is similar to mine, you do need to look into where
your vertical pipe is actually going down into the floor, work out the X
inches that one of the plastic pipe connectors will bring a new pan forward
and then add that to the distance that a new pan will come forward anyway
as, remember, the pipe going out of the back of the pan also means that the
pan will have to sit slightly forward anyhow.
Oh, and if you do it yourself, make sure you get a good collar/connection
where you join any right angle plastic connector to your original waste pipe
under the concrete/floor - it basically is a waterproof circular seal will
fits into your original waste-pipe and then you put the new connector pipe
into it once the sealant has gone off. Use plenty of waterproof sealant...
let it dry and then use lots more waterproof sealant and let it dry BEFORE
you even consider connecting the pan as, if still wet, the heavy work used
in positioning the pan will probably loosen any seal you have and, like my
plumber found out, you get a leak.
I think www.diy.com has a good tutorial on putting in a toilet, as does the
Homebase site and I believe Wickes has a pamphlet in the stores.
Best of luck,
Janek.
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Mike S
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MKBAR90 97 - 108mm 99 - 105mm at
http://www.multikwik.com/multikwik/multikwik_frame.htm
Looks as thought it will do the job.
Mike S
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Muddy Paws
lip of the oulet aproximately on the center line of the pipe rather than the
front edge
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mrnice00
waste pipe is about 1.5 foot from wall
The new toilet is a close-coupled cistern type
not with a flush pipe between cistern and toilet
and i don't want to replace any boxing behind cistern which is already
there.....
Mike S
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Get to it and go to the following
:-http://www.multikwik.com/multikwik/multikwik_frame.htm
looks as though they know a thing or two about soil pipes and connectors.
Mike S