Re: What the Bible says about Christians

[John Doe]

"LOL"

Needs to dislodge the comedian from the vacant area between its ears...


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> On Sun, 15 May 2016 16:07:56 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>
>> Neither have I said a non-believer is less
>>intelligent.
>
> LOL So they're intelligent narcissists, schizophrenics and
> sociopath's?
>
>>Without proof, you have no fact, and scientifically you are an
>>embarrassment.
>
> You're projecting. And if you're going to keep using the word science,
> then start showing some.
>
>
>

[John Doe]

An assertion like "There is no God" implies that one has proof.
That's a simple concept...


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> On 5/15/2016 6:05 PM, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 17:37:43 -0700, Rudy Canoza <cap philhendrie.con>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/15/2016 3:03 PM, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 14:33:26 -0700, Rudy Canoza <cap philhendrie.con>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2016 9:25 PM, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2016 19:27:44 -0700, whoyakidding gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a little story you might be able to relate to. When the first
>>>>>>> Rob Ford crack smoking news broke, a guy from Rob's hood told me that
>>>>>>> he would never believe it until he saw the video for himself. Guess
>>>>>>> how much video he has of his sky daddy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A truly logical and intelligent person would never be so gullible to
>>>>>>> fall for religion. But a mostly logical and intelligent person who did
>>>>>>> fall for religion would simply admit that yes, he is gullible, but for
>>>>>>> whatever reason, wants to believe anyway. What you did by trying to
>>>>>>> pin the blame for your lack of reason on anyone who refuses to
>>>>>>> believer, is downright stupid. That's a fact, and no matter how much
>>>>>>> more you write on the subject, that fact will remain.
>>>>>> I may be gullible to believe there is a god, but not as gullible as
>>>>>> anyone who believes there is any proof there is no god.
>>>>>
>>>>> Name anyone who ever said there is "proof" there is no god.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't - you made that up.
>>>> Macaw for one.
>>>
>>> I've never seen anyone by that name posting in either of these two
>>> groups. You have to point me to a specific post, or I'm not buying it.
>> He's been active on the home repair group and through crossposting
>
> I think you're making it up - lying, in other words.
>
> I've never seen anyone claim to have "proof" that god doesn't exist.
> Show me a post, or I'll say you're lying.
>
>
>

[Rudy Canoza]

On 5/16/2016 5:42 PM, John Doe wrote:
> An assertion like "There is no God"

Not an assertion I've made.

> implies that one has proof.

Not necessarily. Of course, such proof could conceivably be to show an
unavoidable contradiction in the conditions required to show that there
*is* a god. I don't claim to have shown that, but I suppose someone may
think he has.

>
>
> -- Rudy Canoza <cap philhendrie.con> wrote in news:y0b_y.28056$FH2.21936
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Ha ha ha ha ha! You taking Usenet posting lessons from dweeber? Did it
make you feel powerful to view, copy and paste the message headers?
What a chump.

[John Doe]

An assertion like "There is no God" implies that one has proof.
That's a simple concept...

Try reading slowly this time.

I'm impressed that anyone can be so dull as
to be stuck on such easy to understand trivia.

Good luck getting past third grade...


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[John Doe]

Whatta troll...

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> On Mon, 16 May 2016 17:47:40 -0700, Rudy Canoza <cap philhendrie.con>
> wrote:
>
>>On 5/16/2016 5:40 PM, adayinthelifeofatree bwilson.com wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2016 08:17:21 -0700, Rudy Canoza <cap philhendrie.con>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/15/2016 11:50 PM, whoyakidding gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 13:08:16 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 08:32:39 -0700, Kick wy's ass
>>>>>> <mayor bakersfield.goov> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/15/2016 1:51 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 18:14:34 +1200, Your Name <YourName YourISP.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <baufjbhs62llip7h7lcl7ig563mjuj948v 4ax.com>,

>>>>>>>>> <clare snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I may be gullible to believe there is a god, but not as gullible as
>>>>>>>>>> anyone who believes there is any proof there is no god.

>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's no proof there is a God. There's no proof that anything in the
>>>>>>>>> Bible is even true. In fact all the real proof points to it being a
>>>>>>>>> load of fictional crap heavily edited (if not written!) by the church
>>>>>>>>> in the Middle Ages, just like the idiotic fake "Shroud".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no proof there ISNT a god(s).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not something that has to be proved, fucktard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it does. There is more than enough "proof" that there may well be
>>>>>> god(s),
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet, you haven't provided a scintilla of it. Where is it?
>>>>
>>>> Did you notice the weasel-worded statement? "proof" that there "may
>>>> well be"... Very compelling, eh?
>>>
>>> He is in no way religious. He's just feebly trying to back up the few
>>> posters who he hopes will take him at least slightly seriously.
>>
>>What's really funny is he claims to be a "Rensai [sic] Buddhist", yet
>>here he is furiously trying to pull Christian believers' asses out of
>>the fire, and not for the first time.
>
> ... and the "Christians" don't have the balls to reject his "help."
>
>

[Rudy Canoza]

On 5/16/2016 5:57 PM, John Doe wrote:
> An assertion like "There is no God" implies that one has proof.
> That's a simple concept...
>
> Try reading slowly this time.

Try fucking yourself up the ass with a broken bottle. An assertion like
"there is no god" is not an assertion I made. Let me repeat, fucktard:
An assertion like "there is no god" is not an assertion I made. Once
more, the the terminally fuckwitted: An assertion like "there is no
god" is not an assertion I made.

Try reading this again: the kind of "proof" you're demanding could be a
logical proof, rather than evidence. If I can show that the claim
"there is a god" *necessarily* relies on contradictory premises, then I
have *disproved* your claim, and thereby proved the contrary. I don't
claim to be able to show that, but I don't have to provide physical
evidence.

> I'm impressed that anyone can be so dull as
> to be stuck on such easy to understand trivia.

I'm surprised you can even figure out how to post to Usenet.

And again with the message headers. Why do you do that? Does it make
you feel mighty? LOL!

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>> >On 5/16/2016 5:42 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>> >>An assertion like "There is no God"
>> >
>> >Not an assertion I've made.
>> >
>>> >>implies that one has proof.
>> >
>> >Not necessarily. Of course, such proof could conceivably be to show an
>> >unavoidable contradiction in the conditions required to show that there
>> >*is* a god. I don't claim to have shown that, but I suppose someone may
>> >think he has.
>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>

>>> >>-- Rudy Canoza <cap philhendrie.con> wrote innews:y0b_y.28056$FH2.21936

[John Doe]

USENET has the best format for discussion on the Internet. But it's
jampacked with nym-shifting zealots. Discussing controversial subjects
is impossible. As I said and was apparently ignored YouTube is not the
best for discussion. But it does include videos, a diverse crowd, and a
discussion section. Even though it's not geared for discussion, it beats
USENET's great format combined with a bunch of old men and psychopaths.
That is, at least for controversial subjects.

If USENET employed mutual blocking and prohibited nym-shifting, it would
hands down be the best place for discussion for the foreseeable future. But
it's not worth being relentlessly trolled by nym-shifting zealots.

BTW... Using the oldest and lamest insult known to mankind "you're stupid"
is not a show of intelligence.

And Yes, I know the zealot will disagree...


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> On 5/16/2016 10:27 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>
>>> John Doe <always.look message.header> wrote:
>>>> clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Along with a few others I've permanently plonked.
>>>>
>>>> Preventing yourself from seeing a troll's posts does nothing to
>>>> discourage it. In fact, they enjoy it.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, the best place on the Internet for intelligent discussion
>>>> is YouTube. It's not the best forum, but it allows mutual blocking.
>>>> Mutual blocking is the only way to truly discourage trolls.
>>>>
>>>> Facebook implements mutual blocking too. But it's even less useful
>>>> for discussion than YouTube.
>>>>
>>>> USENET probably will never do so, but I'm hoping that some mainstream
>>>> discussion forums pick it up.
>>
>>> When I "plonk" them it keeps them out of my "in-box" and I don't get
>>> tempted to get "sucked in" to responding to them any more. I do still
>>> end up responding to some of the responses of others to them.
>>
>> There is a solution to that problem, that is to ignore the subthread
>> (thread branch). But you might need a newsreader to do that. Ignoring a
>> subthread is the most effective filter on USENET, it's the only filter I
>> use. But there is no effective way to cope with trolls here. Especially
>> considering the fact that they can nym-shift. USENET sucks for
>> controversial subjects. YouTube is much better for that (given mutual
>> blocking), and it includes a much more diverse crowd.
>
> Youtube comments sections absolutely *blow* as a discussion forum. It's
> not intended to serve that function at all. One of its biggest defects
> is it doesn't really thread the comments. It doesn't help that it
> attracts a younger, far less literate crowd (not that Usenet is exactly
> crawling with Flauberts and Prousts.)
>
> Anyone who touts Youtube as a viable discussion forum is admitting to
> being an idiot.
>
>
>

[John Doe]

One of the weird things about USENET is how some people dwell
on other people who aren't even participating. It appears
to be some sort of psychosis. It's like "We hate that Jim Jones"
while drinking the Kool-Aid.


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> On Mon, 16 May 2016 22:09:40 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 May 2016 17:43:39 -0700, godonlyknows bwilson.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 May 2016 15:52:46 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 16 May 2016 10:06:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 16 May 2016 09:00:20 -0700, Brian Girecky
>>>>><abc.xyz gardner.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 5/16/2016 7:44 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2016 06:59:43 -0700, Brian Girecky
>>>>>>> <abc.xyz gardner.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Plenty accurate when it comes to things only a few hundred years old.
>>>>>>>>>> http://ncse.com/cej/3/2/answers-to-creationist-attacks-carbon-14-dating
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the nice article. However...it didnt say that it was
>>>>>>>>> "plenty accurate to things only a few hundred years old..and in
>>>>>>>>> fact..said it made "older things" look "younger"..up to about 5000 yrs
>>>>>>>>> ago. Now again I ask..what is the accuracy mean? The best one can
>>>>>>>>> expect from C14 dating of things from say..the 13th century as opposed
>>>>>>>>> to the 1st century?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why don't you write directly to the authors of that page? I don't claim
>>>>>>>> to be an expert in the subject; I just happen not to believe the
>>>>>>>> creationist objections to the technique, coming as they do from
>>>>>>>> ferociously anti-intellectual people who omit or misrepresent things all
>>>>>>>> the time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My..but you certainly do have a chip on your shoulder, dont you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Denial..is not a river in Egypt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it true that you are British as well?
>>>>>
>>>>>Odd..you sound like one of those ignorant wankers. Probably Canadian
>>>>>then.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gunner
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>NO!!!! Gunner, don't equate those idiots to your fine neighbours to
>>>>the North - just because we share the same queen!!
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey Clare, if you need rhetorical backup from Wieber, it's time to
>>>rethink your position. Or does that "Christian" lifestyle of yours
>>>have a loophole that makes room pathological liars?
>
>> I don't need rhetorical backup from him
>
> Yeah, you do, which is why you're taking it.
>
>>, but I believe he's more
>>honest
>
> He's what, an honest pathological liar? Your approach here reminds me
> of the Vatican and their pedophile problem. Wieber's lying and death
> threats are just as cute as some overly-friendly priests. One can
> imagine the bosses saying "at least they're not atheists."
>
>> He's no saint - that's for sure but he doesn't pretend to be, does
>>he??
>
> He pretends a LOT of things, but no, saint isn't one of them. Which is
> sort of like saying that at least Ted Bundy didn't cheat at scrabble.
>
>> I was just telling him not to tar all Canadians with the same
>>brush. Should I tar all Americans with the Mark Wieber brush??
>
> I wouldn't, but I think you're OK with tarring entire groups based on
> what some individuals say. So go for it if you like, there's no reason
> for it to bother me.
>
>

[John Doe]

If we didn't "run away" from chest-thumping psychopaths on USENET,
every waking minute would be consumed.

If only USENET prohibited nym-shifting and allowed mutual blocking.
What a wonderful world this would be.


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> On Mon, 16 May 2016 22:01:52 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 17 May 2016 00:40:44 -0000 (UTC), John Doe

>><always.look message.header> wrote:
>>
>>>clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>
>>>> Along with a few others I've permanently plonked.
>>>
>>>Preventing yourself from seeing a troll's posts does nothing to
>>>discourage it. In fact, they enjoy it.
>>>
>>>Currently, the best place on the Internet for intelligent discussion is
>>>YouTube. It's not the best forum, but it allows mutual blocking. Mutual
>>>blocking is the only way to truly discourage trolls.
>>>
>>>Facebook implements mutual blocking too. But it's even less useful for
>>>discussion than YouTube.
>>>
>>>USENET probably will never do so, but I'm hoping that some mainstream
>>>discussion forums pick it up.
>
>> When I "plonk" them it keeps them out of my "in-box" and I don't get
>>tempted to get "sucked in" to responding to them any more. I do still
>>end up responding to some of the responses of others to them.
>

> Translation: couldn't answer any of the obvious questions they asked,
> preferred to run away, now spinning it into something else that's as
> unbelievable as the mental mush I was trying to sell. Got the idea
> from my pal Wieber's "success."
>
>

[John Doe]

That's what I thought. Extremely few scientists debate the subject of
religion. Any famous scientist who does so very likely has a following
of clueless sheep.

Knock yourself out. Turn yourself into an idiot by rejecting everything
that's in the Bible just because it's in the Bible. But don't pretend
to be a scientist.


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> Subject: Re: What the Bible says about Christians

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> On Tue, 17 May 2016 05:51:47 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> <always.look message.header> wrote:
>
>>disneygirls bwilson.com wrote in news:70cljbhtdeob5uj1vradokev7rq6lg9fng
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2016 19:55:14 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
>>> <rangerssuck gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 8:41:47 PM UTC-4, disne... bwilson.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How the fuck do these people expect their kids to learn reason? One
>>>>> minute they're telling them to remember to thank "the lord" for their
>>>>> bowl of cheerios. The next they're telling them not to believe in
>>>>> chemtrails or vampires because there's no proof.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for this. I had never heard of "chemtrails" before. I googled
>>the term and it confirmed almost everything
>>>> I ever believed about those lines in the sky. But what wasn't mentioned
>>is that the trails are also alien sky writing.
>>>>They contain important communications about the upcoming invasions and
>>the REALLY GREAT cull.
>>>>
>>>>I've done an inventory over the past week and made a list of all the
>>sizes and thicknesses of tinfoil
>>>> of which I have less than 1000 rolls. Also placed an order for more
>>banjo strings.
>>>
>>> pointsetmatch hearhear indeedsir
>>>
>>> Whatever you do, don't google "cern stargate" or click on this link.
>>> http://tinyurl.com/h974wtr Because none of the tinfoil in the world is
>>> the correct thickness to provide adequate protection from the worst
>>> threats, all of which are as well proven as the Bible and equally
>>> entitled to live in motel room drawers.
>>
>>Are you a scientist?
>
> No, but I can BELIEVE I am. And you damned well better respect my
> beliefs or you'll burn for eternity in a bowl of hot delicious
> meatballs.
>
>

[John Doe]

This is a prime example of a nym-shifting psychopath making USENET
the pits for serious discussion of controversial subjects...


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>
> On Tue, 17 May 2016 05:27:50 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> <always.look message.header> wrote:
>
>>But there is no effective way to cope with trolls here.
>

> You could stop reading and responding to things you don't want to
> read. Just a thought, fruitcake.
>
>

[Matt Singer]

On 5/16/2016 11:23 PM, John Doe wrote:
> If we didn't "run away" from chest-thumping psychopaths on USENET,
> every waking minute would be consumed.
>
> If only USENET prohibited nym-shifting and allowed mutual blocking.
> What a wonderful world this would be.

Shut the fuck up, baby.

[Matt Singer]

On 5/16/2016 11:19 PM, John Doe wrote:
> One of the weird things about USENET is how some people dwell
> on other people who aren't even participating. It appears
> to be some sort of psychosis. It's like "We hate that Jim Jones"
> while drinking the Kool-Aid.

An even weirder thing is stupid fuckwits who include the message headers
of *every* fucking post to which they reply. What a stupid cunt you are!

[Matt Singer]

On 5/16/2016 11:34 PM, John Doe wrote:
> This is a prime example of

You're a prime example of an infantile fuckwit who needs to have a
shovel brought down hard on his head.

[Beam Me Up Scotty]

If they hate it here then go to FACE BOOK with the brain dead that need
someone censoring their content.

--
If Atheists demand scientific proof that GOD and Spaghetti Monsters
exist, why don't those same Atheists demand scientific proof that gayys
and Global Warming exist?

That's Karma

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Tue, 17 May 2016 06:23:10 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<alway...@message.header> wrote:

>If we didn't "run away" from chest-thumping psychopaths on USENET,
>every waking minute would be consumed.
>
>If only USENET prohibited nym-shifting and allowed mutual blocking.
>What a wonderful world this would be.

I'd settle for being able to block a complete domain

[Matt Singer]

Why don't you stop sobbing? It's infantile. You should stop it.

[John Doe]

Chronic troll...


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> On 5/16/2016 10:49 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> rangerssuck <rangerssuck gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps the confusion here is the definition of "sin." In the
>>> definition I posted above, there was no mention of religion, just a
>>> reprehensible act. I think we can pretty much all agree that killing
>>> your neighbor's wife and eating her liver with fava beans and a nice
>>> Chianti would qualify as a pretty reprehensible act, and we don't need
>>> a supreme being to tell us so.
>>
>> I agree with the confusion thing. But the idea of right and wrong is
>> anything but clear-cut, that's obvious in current issues.
>>
>> I thought that "liver with fava beans" was amusing in my favorite movie
>> of all time Dumb and Dumber, and then realized it was taken from one of
>> the cannibal guy movies.
>
> You would.
>
> Oh, hey! So top-posting over the previous post's headers is a *choice*
> for you, not something that happens outside your control.
>
>
>

[Rudy Canoza]

On 5/17/2016 11:08 AM, John Doe wrote:
> Chronic troll...

You're a chronic stupid asshole and crybaby. I could always choose not
to post to Usenet, but you can't choose not to be stupid and an asshole
and crybaby.

Why do you think it accomplishes something to post the message headers
of the person to whom you're bitching - that is, of your better?

[John Doe]

Buffet Christianity is a different subject. I just talk about what's in
the Bible. Jesus also says Matthew 6:8 "your Father knows what you need
before you ask him". Asking for no consequences for your actions is
ludicrous.

Mark 10:21 "You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to
the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."

Saying you will have treasure in heaven doesn't say you don't or won't
have anything in heaven.

Christianity has nothing to do with your material or physical status in
life. Jesus does not preclude rich people from heaven... Mark 10:23-27
"How difficult it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom
of God!" but "all things are possible with God".


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> On Tue, 17 May 2016 09:01:09 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> <always.look message.header> wrote:
>
>>bruce2bowser gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Clare wrote:
>>>
>>>> If he is wrong he will some day wake up suffering the consequenses
>>>> of sin (Romans 6:23)
>>>
>>> No, because according to you he just has to ask for no consequences,
>>> right? "You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it"
>>> (John 14:14)
>>
>>You are taking that out of context.
>
> That is an argument that should be off limits to buffet-style
> Christians like you and Clare, who pick which parts of the Bible you
> believe and live. I ask again, have you given all your possessions to
> the poor?
>
>

[First-Post]

In Agent one can use "expressions" contained in brackets.
For example {.gioia.aioe.org} will kill file all posts made from that
particular aioe server.
Click "tools" then "Usenet filters" then the "New Kill Filter".
Place whatever expression is required between { } and it will then
filter all messages, read and unread, that contain that server info

Some other examples that I use in my own version of Agent are:

{@dizum.com}
{@remailer}
{@adenine.netfront.net}
{mixmin.net}
{frell.theremailer.net}
{@news.astraweb.com}
{@mid.individual.net}
{@googlegroups.com}

[John Doe]

A zealot from the cannibal left's Church of an Ever Expanding Government...


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> <regor midwest.net> wrote:
>> >"Buzz Forward" wrote in message news:cgk_y.54854$864.47830 fx28.iad...
>> >On 5/15/2016 4:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 15 May 2016 16:21:25 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> ><snip>
>> >>>
>> >>> There is also more evidence being unearthed evey year supporting the
>> >>> existance of cities and civilizations mentioned in the old testament
>> >>> which have long been considered mythilogical, lending more historical
>> >>> credence to much of what is reported in the old testament (the Jewish
>> >>> Talmud).
>> >>
>> >> True indeed. Some fascinating archeological digs are currently in
>> >> operation as a result.
>> >
>> >Name one.
>>
>> Israel
>>
>> Abel Beth Maacah
>> Apollonia-Arsuf
>> Ashdod-Yam
>> Ashkelon
>> Azekah
>> Bethsaida
>> Ein el-Jarba
>> Hippos-Sussita
>> Jaffa
>> Khirbet el-Eika
>> Khirbet el-Maqatir
>> Kursi Beach Excavation
>> Legio
> <snip - long and pointlessly irrelevant list>
>
>
> Now name one that actually *proves* the Bible is true ... oh, wait,
> there isn't even one, because there's no way to prove it's true and all
> the actual facts point to it being just a load of crap.
>
>

[John Doe]

"LOL"

Should dislodge the comedian from the vacant area between its ears.

To me, a hardened scientist, the Bible is mostly exceptionally valuable
history (especially the first person stuff). But some of the inspiration
for writing it apparently comes from spiritual forces, most clearly in
the New Testament. Several different translations are based on ancient
texts, and they all pretty much agree.

Mark 10:21... And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him,

"You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor,
and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."

Someone Jesus loves isn't a good candidate for hell. And it really is
simple logic that points out the fact the rich man is not being
precluded from heaven. Again... Saying "you will have treasure in
heaven" does not say "you have (or will have) nothing in heaven".

That's not a contrived explanation, the problem is the cannibal left
suck at logic, perhaps driven by their hellophobia.


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> On Tue, 17 May 2016 19:13:36 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
> <always.look message.header> wrote:
>
>>Buffet Christianity is a different subject.
>

> You should post a picture of yourself with your fingers in your ears.

>
>> I just talk about what's in
>>the Bible.
>

> You're a standard Christian, claiming that the Bible is a great truth,
> and then deigning yourself qualified to interpret it. And what do you
> know, after a lot of deep thought LOL your interpretation happens to
> be in your best interest! Amazing how these things work out, eh?

>
>>Mark 10:21 "You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to
>>the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."
>

> So, have you given everything to the poor? I take it you're posting
> from a library, barefoot and wearing a potato sack.
>
>

[godonl...@bwilson.com]

On Tue, 17 May 2016 22:09:40 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<alway...@message.header> wrote:


>To me, a hardened scientist,

You're no scientist. Just another religious crackpot rightard with
nothing useful to say, and living in your head.

I'm thinking that the reason you can't answer about giving away all
your possessions to the poor, is that you have nothing to give. Which
seems to be a common trait among disgruntled rightards. They spend too
much time imagining gods and monsters to make a decent living. The
only question is, were you too fucked up to make a good life, and so
turned to fairy tales and hate. Or did you turn to fantasy first, and
then found that your demons precluded happiness.

Feel free to explain, but you'll need genuine proof of your claims
since nobody will take your word for anything.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 5/17/2016 3:09 PM, John Doe wrote:
> "LOL"
>
> Should dislodge the comedian from the vacant area between its ears.
>
> To me, a hardened scientist,

Get off it. No one is buying that.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Tue, 17 May 2016 16:39:51 -0500, First-Post
<Liberals-Have-No-Point-If-They-Can't-Lie-A...@DumbassedDemocrats.com>

Thank you, thank you thank you.
I use agent. Your solution worked !!!!!

[John Doe]

Of course I already provided a simple explanation for the anti-religious
zealot's question. It needs to start acting like a grown-up and accept
reality.

To bad USENET has turned into a den of psychopathic trolls...


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[John Doe]

Almost all Bible bashers feign science but are in fact anti-science.
They are nowhere. Ask them about ZERO GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS nuclear
power and they start spewing cannibal left rhetoric against it. They are
typically anti-religious, unscientific, and dumb as door nails.

A scientist doesn't bash religion, unless he (or she) is leading a bunch
of sheep who know nothing about science.


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[John Doe]

One of the most ridiculous arguments from the cannibal left...


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> On Sun, 15 May 2016 16:21:25 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>

>>>>In article <baufjbhs62llip7h7lcl7ig563mjuj948v 4ax.com>,
>>>><clare snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>

>> there IS a preponderance of evidence that a man called
>>the Christ was crucified by the Romans in Jerusalem in the rough time
>>period claimed as the beginning of "the common era" - at roughly the
>>age of 30. and that there were extra-ordinary circumstances
>>surrounding his life which caused an upheaval in the jewish/roman
>>world of the time..

>>
>>There is also more evidence being unearthed evey year supporting the
>>existance of cities and civilizations mentioned in the old testament
>>which have long been considered mythilogical, lending more historical
>>credence to much of what is reported in the old testament (the Jewish
>>Talmud).
>

> Logical fallacy. Let's imagine that Wieber's tale of a 264mph
> motorcycle ride is unearthed a couple thousand years from now. The lie
> includes a location (Taft) and a cop with a radar gun. Scholars could
> confirm that Weiber, Taft, cops, and radar guns all existed. But none
> of that would do anything to prove the veracity of the story. They
> could also confirm that Wieber told a ton of demonstrable lies,
> presumably to further his self interest. See the problem, and the
> parallels?
>
>

[John Doe]

The cannibal leftist ignores the fact that it isn't just believers who
know that Jesus walked the earth. In fact, over 1 billion Muslims who
don't believe that Jesus is God's son do believe that Jesus walked the
earth.

This is a great example of a subject on which a scientist would never
opine against (unless it's leading a bunch of non-scientist sheep).

There's lots more evidence that Jesus walked the earth then there is
that these trolls' ancestors walked the earth. For all we know, the
cannibal leftists could be badly written computer programs...


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> On 5/15/2016 1:21 PM, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 11:22:36 -0500, "RogerN" <regor midwest.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> "Your Name" wrote in message
>>>> news:150520161814342819%YourName YourISP.com...

>>>>
>>>> In article <baufjbhs62llip7h7lcl7ig563mjuj948v 4ax.com>,
>>>> <clare snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>> I may be gullible to believe there is a god, but not as gullible as
>>>>> anyone who believes there is any proof there is no god.

>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> There's no proof there is a God. There's no proof that anything in the
>>>> Bible is even true. In fact all the real proof points to it being a
>>>> load of fictional crap heavily edited (if not written!) by the church
>>>> in the Middle Ages, just like the idiotic fake "Shroud".
>>>>
>>>

>>> Are you just trying to stir stuff or do you believe what you wrote? There
>>> are loads of biblical artifacts, skeptics have been proven wrong by
>>> archeology multiple times. Not sure if you are that uninformed or just a
>>> troll.
>>>
>>> RogerN
>>>
>> To be 100% honest though, as a Christian, many of the so-called
>> "relics" of the Catholic church have a rather questionable history and
>> MAY fail the test of true science - and with reason.
>>
>> That said - there IS a preponderance of evidence that a man called

>> the Christ was crucified by the Romans in Jerusalem in the rough time
>> period claimed as the beginning of "the common era" - at roughly the
>> age of 30.
>

> No, there isn't. You simply wish to believe it, and any scant scrap
> that *appears* to confirm it, you leap on.

>
>> and that there were extra-ordinary circumstances
>> surrounding his life which caused an upheaval in the jewish/roman
>> world of the time..
>

> Bullshit. You haven't read any such "evidence", and sticking the word
> "preponderance" in front of it doesn't make it so, it just makes you a
> wild exaggerator. The only stuff you've read is from credulous
> believers who did the same thing you just did: start tossing around
> words like "preponderance" with no valid reason for doing so. You can't
> cite a single bit of historical work - peer reviewed, not some garbage
> from a believer website - that supports your claim.

>
>>
>> There is also more evidence being unearthed evey year supporting the
>> existance of cities and civilizations mentioned in the old testament
>> which have long been considered mythilogical, lending more historical
>> credence to much of what is reported in the old testament (the Jewish
>> Talmud).
>

> *Cite* some of it. Don't make a claim like that and expect reasonable
> people to accept it at face value.
>
>
>

[Rudy Canoza]

On 5/17/2016 7:24 PM, John Doe wrote:
> Almost all Bible bashers feign science but are in fact anti-science.

You're a bible thumper who feigns science but is in fact
science-illiterate. Being a bible thumper *requires* being anti-science.

[RogerN]

>"Rudy Canoza" wrote in message news:3R2%y.908$YD5...@fx40.iad...

But what about the people that know more about science and evolution than
you but believe in God?

RogerN

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Wed, 18 May 2016 15:45:01 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:

And I'd venture there are a LOT of them. I don't think Rudy has a
degree in science - he may possibly have a BA, but I doubt it. He MAY
have passed his grade 13 science courses, but I very much doubt he has
"done much science" since finishing his last year of formal education.
I may be wrong - I'll be the first to admit it wouldn't be the first
time - but somehow I have a pretty strong feeling I'm not too far off
the mark this time.

I'm not a "bible thumper" although I am a Christian - and I'm no
stranger to the scientific method. I use it virtually every day in my
work. When a problem crops up that I need to solve i first ask the
question - "what could be causing the problem". I check into how the
system/device/program is supposed to work, then form a hypothesis as
to what is most likely to be the problem keeping it from working as
designed.
I then make whatever changes or adjustments or repairs necessary to
remedy the problem according to that hypothesis. This is the step
known as experimentation. Did I solve the problem? That is analyzing
the data and coming to a conclusion.
If I was right I communicate this to the customer in the form of an
invoice..

That "scientific mindset" is totally a part of my life.

Although I am certainly not a scientist, I also have a reasonable
knowledge of the science of aerodynamics and flight, as well as basic
physics relating to electricity, electronics, hydraulics,meteorology
and basic machines, and a basic knowledge of biology relating to both
plant and animal husbandry and basic soil science.
I am capable of applying the scientific method to problems in any of
these disciplines - so I think it would be pretty hard for you to make
a charge of "anti-science" stick before a jury.

[Rudy Canoza]

There aren't many. Most professional scientists are agnostics or
atheists. Most of those who profess belief do not go for the downmarket
evangelical bullshit that you swallow. They tend more toward mainstream
churches.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 5/18/2016 2:23 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2016 15:45:01 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> "Rudy Canoza" wrote in message news:3R2%y.908$YD5...@fx40.iad...
>>> On 5/17/2016 7:24 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>>> Almost all Bible bashers feign science but are in fact anti-science.
>>>
>>> You're a bible thumper who feigns science but is in fact
>>> science-illiterate. Being a bible thumper *requires* being anti-science.
>>>
>>
>> But what about the people that know more about science and evolution than
>> you but believe in God?
>>
>> RogerN
>>
> And I'd venture there are a LOT of them.

You're wrong, of course:
http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/

The first important thing to note is how many scientists are flat-out
atheists, compared with the general population: 41% of scientists - the
largest single group - versus 4% among the general public.

The second important thing to note is how *few* scientists are
evangelical Christians: 4% among scientists, versus 28% among the
general public.

To the extent that any scientists are religiously observant, they tend
to go for more normal, intellectually respectable faiths, not the
crackpot extremist gooey-death bullshit prevalent among the
know-nothings who are trying to "prove" the validity of Christianity.

> I'm not a "bible thumper" although I am a Christian

If you support in any way the notion that the bible contains literal
truth, then you're a bible thumper. It does not.

[jesus just left chicago]

On Wed, 18 May 2016 17:23:45 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

>On Wed, 18 May 2016 15:45:01 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>wrote:
>
>>>"Rudy Canoza" wrote in message news:3R2%y.908$YD5...@fx40.iad...
>>>On 5/17/2016 7:24 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>>> Almost all Bible bashers feign science but are in fact anti-science.
>>>
>>>You're a bible thumper who feigns science but is in fact
>>>science-illiterate. Being a bible thumper *requires* being anti-science.
>>>
>>
>>But what about the people that know more about science and evolution than
>>you but believe in God?
>>
>>RogerN
>>
>And I'd venture there are a LOT of them.

Ah, no. And it was illogical of you to form that opinion without
looking up the facts. Why not apply the scientific method to your
hypothesis instead of deluding yourself?

[John Doe]

The idea that atheism and science have anything to do with each other is
ludicrous. The cannibal left suck at logic, horribly.


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> On Sat, 14 May 2016 23:27:35 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunnerasch gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 May 2016 22:02:31 -0500, Ignoramus31157
>><ignoramus31157 NOSPAM.31157.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2016-05-15, whoyakidding gmail.com <whoyakidding gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Atheism is the polar opposite of Monotheism - it is basically a
>>>>>> combination of Pantheism and schizophrenia, mixed with a bit of
>>>
>>>Let's see, religion, believing in hearing voices, persecution
>>>delusions, etc, that is much more schozophrenic than trying to stay
>>>rooted in reality like atheists do.
>>>
>>>i
>>
>>Atheists are rooted in reality? Blink blink....So Comrade...I see
>>old teachings die hard, da?
>
> Yeah, atheists and scientists believe in logic, not God. Since God
> can't be proven, that's reality.
>
> I happen to believe in God/Crom/HigherPower, but not -religion- of any
> sort. Unreal, huh? <titter>
>
> --
> Education is that which remains when one has
> forgotten everything he learned in school.
> --Albert Einstein
>
>

[Gunner Asch]

Ah...yes. Its notable you refuse to use scientific method at all in
your diatribes.

Sucks to be you...has to.

[John Doe]

In sixth grade, our teacher was talking about such things as evolution
versus creation theory. I already understood that Moses's very short
talk about the origin of mankind was for undeveloped (not to be confused
with uncivilized) people.

In fact, Jesus uses lots of parables in the New Testament. And in fact,
the people of Moses's time had no use for evolution theory. His
audience, people more civilized than the following troll's ancestors
would have stoned Moses for mentioning evolution theory. The people
probably wanted an explanation for their origin, but of course proposing
evolution theory or suggesting they use the scientific method to
discover the answer would have gone over like a lead balloon. Also,
evolution theory has nothing to do with biblical Christianity.

It was a parable. It worked for the people at the time. It allowed them
to think about more important things, like survival.

The cannibal left suck at logic.


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> Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 17:41:16 -0700, Brian Girecky
>> <abc.xyz gardner.shitbags.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/15/2016 3:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 16:10:12 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 09:22:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>>> <noemail comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gunner Asch <gunnerasch gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:s2egjbhoa7bdv51f7dtfe586btv7vra0df 4ax.com:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 May 2016 18:14:34 +1200, Your Name <YourName YourISP.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <baufjbhs62llip7h7lcl7ig563mjuj948v 4ax.com>,
>>>>>>>> <clare snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I may be gullible to believe there is a god, but not as gullible as
>>>>>>>>> anyone who believes there is any proof there is no god.
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's no proof there is a God. There's no proof that anything in the
>>>>>>>> Bible is even true. In fact all the real proof points to it being a
>>>>>>>> load of fictional crap heavily edited (if not written!) by the church
>>>>>>>> in the Middle Ages, just like the idiotic fake "Shroud".
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> There is no proof there ISNT a god(s).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or a Tooth Fairy, or the Great Pumpkin,
>>>>>> or an Illuminati conspiracy. You can have
>>>>>> all sort of fun demanding proof of a negative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "shroud" hasnt been proven a fake either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "In 1998, the shroud was carbon dated to the end of
>>>>>> the 13th century, lending support to those who say
>>>>>> it is a medieval forgery."
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/obpfulb
>>>>>>
>>>>> Which is about as close to proof as science is likely to get.
>>>>> Proving the shroud is a fake is a LONG way from proving there is no
>>>>> God.
>>>>
>>>> What is the accuracy range of carbon dating? Weeks? Months? Years?
>>>> Decades? Centuries? Particularly carbon dating as performed 20 yrs
>>>> ago. What is its accuracy?
>>>
>>> Plenty accurate when it comes to things only a few hundred years old.
>>> http://ncse.com/cej/3/2/answers-to-creationist-attacks-carbon-14-dating
>>
>> Thanks for the nice article. However...it didnt say that it was
>> "plenty accurate to things only a few hundred years old..and in
>> fact..said it made "older things" look "younger"..up to about 5000 yrs
>> ago. Now again I ask..what is the accuracy mean? The best one can
>> expect from C14 dating of things from say..the 13th century as opposed
>> to the 1st century?
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> Since C14 dating is plenty enough to demolish the genesis myth, the rest
> falls like a house of cards and the shroud just becomes a piece of cloth.
>
>

[Robert Grayson]

I already did it for him.

http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/

The first important thing to note is how many scientists are
flat-out atheists, compared with the general population: 41% of
scientists - the largest single group - versus 4% among the general
public.

The second important thing to note is how *few* scientists are
evangelical Christians: 4% among scientists, versus 28% among the
general public.

To the extent that any scientists are religiously observant, they
tend to go for more normal, intellectually respectable faiths, not
the crackpot extremist gooey-death bullshit prevalent among the
know-nothings who are trying to "prove" the validity of Christianity.

The largest group of scientists, although not a majority, are atheists
or agnostics. The *smallest* group are evangelicals, while all the
dopes posting here claiming that the bible is "true" are evangelicals.

Within the spectrum of religious believers, evangelicals are the stupidest.

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 21 May 2016 11:13:45 -0700, Robert Grayson
<jerk.wiwiw...@all.the.time> wrote:

>>
>> Ah...yes. Its notable you refuse to use scientific method at all in
>> your diatribes.
>
>I already did it for him.
>http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/
>
> The first important thing to note is how many scientists are
> flat-out atheists, compared with the general population: 41% of
> scientists - the largest single group - versus 4% among the general
> public.

So significantly less than half of all scientists are atheists or
agnostics?

What about the other 59%?

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Sat, 21 May 2016 11:13:45 -0700, Robert Grayson
<jerk.wiwiw...@all.the.time> wrote:

Defiune "evangelical"

[Robert Grayson]

On 5/21/2016 12:45 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

> On 5/21/2016 11:13 AM, Robert Grayson wrote:
>> On 5/21/2016 12:59 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:54:11 -0700, jesus just left chicago
>>> <zz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 18 May 2016 17:23:45 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 18 May 2016 15:45:01 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rudy Canoza" wrote in message news:3R2%y.908$YD5...@fx40.iad...
>>>>>>> On 5/17/2016 7:24 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>>>>>>> Almost all Bible bashers feign science but are in fact anti-science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a bible thumper who feigns science but is in fact
>>>>>>> science-illiterate. Being a bible thumper *requires* being
>>>>>>> anti-science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But what about the people that know more about science and
>>>>>> evolution than
>>>>>> you but believe in God?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RogerN
>>>>>>
>>>>> And I'd venture there are a LOT of them.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, no. And it was illogical of you to form that opinion without
>>>> looking up the facts. Why not apply the scientific method to your
>>>> hypothesis instead of deluding yourself?
>>>

>>> Ah...yes. Its notable you refuse to use scientific method at all in
>>> your diatribes.
>>
>> I already did it for him.
>> http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/
>>
>> The first important thing to note is how many scientists are
>> flat-out atheists, compared with the general population: 41% of
>> scientists - the largest single group - versus 4% among the general
>> public.
>>

>> The second important thing to note is how *few* scientists are
>> evangelical Christians: 4% among scientists, versus 28% among the
>> general public.
>>
>> To the extent that any scientists are religiously observant, they
>> tend to go for more normal, intellectually respectable faiths, not
>> the crackpot extremist gooey-death bullshit prevalent among the
>> know-nothings who are trying to "prove" the validity of Christianity.
>>
>> The largest group of scientists, although not a majority, are atheists
>> or agnostics. The *smallest* group are evangelicals, while all the
>> dopes posting here claiming that the bible is "true" are evangelicals.
>>
>> Within the spectrum of religious believers, evangelicals are the stupidest.
>

> So significantly less than half of all scientists are atheists or
> agnostics?

So atheist/agnostic/"nothing in particular" is the *biggest*
classification among scientists. "Nothing in particular", 20%, is the
biggest single classification, with 20%, followed by atheist with 17%.
Atheist is bigger than any single religious affiliation. Evangelical
Protestant - the type for all these bozos claiming the bible is "true" -
is the smallest of all among scientists, tied with "don't know/refused
to say."

That fucktarded evangelical Roger's bullshit statement

"And I'd venture there are a LOT of [religious believing scientists]"

is demolished.

"Rensai [sic] Buddhist" - ha ha ha ha ha!

[Robert Grayson]

Four beliefs:

One belief is that the Bible is inerrant. It was without error in
all of its claims about the nature of the world and the nature of
God. A second belief is that the only way to salvation is through
belief in Jesus Christ. A third belief, and one that is most well
known, is the idea that individuals must accept salvation for
themselves. They must become converted. Sometimes that's referred to
as a born-again experience, sometimes a little different language.
Then the fourth cardinal belief of evangelicals is the need to
proselytize, or in their case, to spread the evangel, to evangelize.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/evangelicals/evmain.html

Evangelicals are exceptionally stupid. Mark Wieber, for example.

[Gunner Asch]

This should be very interesting. Lets see just how fucking stupid he
actually is. Im betting IQ in the 60s...but lets look at his response

Gunner

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 21 May 2016 14:34:42 -0700, Robert Grayson
<jerk.wiwiw...@all.the.time> wrote:

>
>So atheist/agnostic/"nothing in particular" is the *biggest*
>classification among scientists. "Nothing in particular", 20%, is the
>biggest single classification, with 20%, followed by atheist with 17%.
>Atheist is bigger than any single religious affiliation. Evangelical
>Protestant - the type for all these bozos claiming the bible is "true" -
>is the smallest of all among scientists, tied with "don't know/refused
>to say."

Odd...where is it defined that "evangelical protestant" is where you
say it is?

You are just a bigoted low brow sub moron. But then..we all knew
that.

[Kirk Harnack]

On 5/21/2016 4:01 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2016 14:34:42 -0700, Robert Grayson
> <jerk.wiwiw...@all.the.time> wrote:
>
>>
>> So atheist/agnostic/"nothing in particular" is the *biggest*
>> classification among scientists. "Nothing in particular", 20%, is the
>> biggest single classification, with 20%, followed by atheist with 17%.
>> Atheist is bigger than any single religious affiliation. Evangelical
>> Protestant - the type for all these bozos claiming the bible is "true" -
>> is the smallest of all among scientists, tied with "don't know/refused
>> to say."
>
> Odd...where is it defined that "evangelical protestant" is where you
> say it is?

I gave a source for a definition in another post, stupid christer.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

Roger didn't say it and I know quite a few "christian" scientists -
some of which are what you would call "evangelical protestants" even
if they wuld not necessarily identify themselves as such. Definitely
not your typical "republican"

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Sat, 21 May 2016 14:39:14 -0700, Robert Grayson

Mark doesn't even claim to be a Christian - much less an evangelical.

There are a lot more "evangelical Atheists" posting here than
"evangelical Christians"

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Sat, 21 May 2016 15:47:27 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

He had to google it and use the definition from PBS.

[John Doe]

Anyone who claims to think scientifically should know better than to
dismiss religion. As a scientist, one cannot ignore the possibility that
a being of extremely greater intelligence exists. And, obviously, that
being could expose itself to anyone and hide itself from anyone else.

You don't even have to be a scientist, even a gamer should know better.
For all we know, we are simulations.

The cannibal left suck at logic.


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> On Sat, 14 May 2016 22:42:43 -0400, clare snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 May 2016 14:59:49 -0700 (PDT), edhuntress2 gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If you want to discuss this further, I'll be glad to join in. But you'll do better if you get yourself a wide-angle lens.
>>
>>From Psycology Today,
>>(https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/how-plato-can-save-your-life/201106/the-scientific-atheism-fallacy-how-science-declares-god-is)
>>
>>Nicholas Kardaras Ph.D.
>>
>>How Plato Can Save Your Life
>>
>>The Scientific Atheism Fallacy: How Science Declares that God Is Dead,
>>But Can't Prove It
>>
>>Without proof, should a scientist be an atheist?
>
> Kardarus, a professor at Stony Brook who specializes in the treatment
> of addictions, made two definitional errors and one large logical
> error in that piece. His premises are incorrect and his conclusion is
> fallacious.
>
> He also misconstrues the scientific method.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
>
>

[John Doe]

Anyone who claims to know what someone else believes is obviously not a
scientist.

I certainly agree with the lack of practices part. That's the reason the
cannibal left are always bashing Christians, because they know
Christians are sandbagging.


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> On Sat, 14 May 2016 12:14:31 -0500, RD Sandman <rdsandman comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>David Hartung <hartungofGod mississippisucks.net> wrote in
>>news:nh4vb9$9f3$1 gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> The Bible says nothing about Christians probably because Christianity
>>> is a made up pile of bullshit by bozos who invented a religion
>>> claiming that their words are the words of the omipotent bearded sky
>>> pixie who magically created everything in 6 days but hasn't shown
>>> himself since.
>>>
>>
>>You probably should look up what Christianity is before expounding on it.
>>The definition of Christianity is the belief that Jesus was the son of God.
>>If you don't believe that he is (or was) you are not a Christian.
>>
>>Def: A montheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old
>>Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and
>>emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior.
>
> The beliefs are running rampant. The practices...not so much.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
>

[RogerN]

>"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
>news:4ap1kb1mqa3a2562d...@4ax.com...

>
>On Sat, 21 May 2016 16:28:21 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 11:13:45 -0700, Robert Grayson
>><jerk.wiwiw...@all.the.time> wrote:

><snip>

>
>>>Within the spectrum of religious believers, evangelicals are the
>>>stupidest.
>> Defiune "evangelical"
>
>This should be very interesting. Lets see just how fucking stupid he
>actually is. Im betting IQ in the 60s...but lets look at his response
>>
>Gunner

Within the spectrum of faith based beliefs, atheists are the only ones
dedicated to fighting what they swear does not exist.

RogerN

[Ed Huntress]

On Sun, 22 May 2016 11:18:41 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<alway...@message.header> wrote:

>Anyone who claims to think scientifically should know better than to
>dismiss religion. As a scientist, one cannot ignore the possibility that
>a being of extremely greater intelligence exists. And, obviously, that
>being could expose itself to anyone and hide itself from anyone else.
>
>You don't even have to be a scientist, even a gamer should know better.
>For all we know, we are simulations.
>
>The cannibal left suck at logic.

My comments were not about dismissing religion. They were about the
sophomoric argument made by Kardaras. He made several fundamental
errors -- common ones -- that often are heard in arguments against
atheism.

They're logically and philosophically incorrect, and they ignore by
far the larger portion of scientific reasoning as it's actually
practiced, and has been, since the days of Aristotle.

--
Ed Humtress

[Ed Huntress]

On Sun, 22 May 2016 11:23:04 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<alway...@message.header> wrote:

>Anyone who claims to know what someone else believes is obviously not a
>scientist.

Unless they are all liars, hard-core Christians are chock-full of
beliefs, which they are disposed to tell us about at the drop of a
hat. See "N, Roger." <g>

[Gunner Asch]

Your failure to provide anything is noted. Or it was done under your
last nym.,,,which is in the killfile

[Kirk Harnack]

Your failure to substantiate you claim to being a "Rensai [sic]
Buddhist," all the while bending over (and sticking your head up your
gaping HIV-oozing rectum) in order to defend evangelical Christian
claims, is noted.

Stupid fucking buffoon.

<VBG> Cites? indeed fascinating "I've not" "hold that thought" backhoe
cull 264mph "3/5/8 years street cop" swingers

[Gunner Asch]

I was raised mainstream Catholic....hardly a fanatical bunch of
fundies..and became Buddhist in 1972. Which simply proves the bottom
line to be quite true...

>
>There are a lot more "evangelical Atheists" posting here than
>"evangelical Christians"

And they are as stupid as fresh cat shit.

Gunner

[Eric Zerkle]

Cite.

<VBG> Cites? indeed fascinating "I've not" "hold that thought" backhoe

cull 264mph "3/5/8 years street cop" swingers leftists

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 22 May 2016 09:42:44 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:

Atheism, just another faith based religious belief

[Mike Kuhn]

That's more bullshit - total bullshit. You're just a fucking liar.

First of all, RAAAHHHHHHger, most atheists aren't "fighting" against
anything, with the exception of fighting against the efforts of
credulous believer fuckstains like you to impose religion on them. In
no case are atheists fighting against "what they swear does not exist,"
i.e. fighting against "god."

You're really stupid, RAAAHHHHHHger.

[Mike Kuhn]

> Atheism, just another faith based religious belief [gummer was told this at catechism!]

No, not for many atheists. For some, but not for all and probably not
for most. There are two kinds of atheists, fuckwit.

1. Those who believe, or claim to know, that there is no god.
2. Those who *don't* believe there is a god.

There is a difference, and it's not mere semantics (look up that word, I
know you don't know it.) Atheists of type #2 are not practicing any
faith based religious belief. They are characterized by an absence of
faith.

You sure are stupid.

[Gronk]

John Doe wrote:
> In sixth grade, our teacher was talking about such things as evolution
> versus creation theory. I already understood that Moses's very short
> talk about the origin of mankind was for undeveloped (not to be confused
> with uncivilized) people.
>
> In fact, Jesus uses lots of parables in the New Testament. And in fact,
> the people of Moses's time had no use for evolution theory. His
> audience, people more civilized than the following troll's ancestors
> would have stoned Moses for mentioning evolution theory. The people
> probably wanted an explanation for their origin, but of course proposing
> evolution theory or suggesting they use the scientific method to
> discover the answer would have gone over like a lead balloon. Also,
> evolution theory has nothing to do with biblical Christianity.
>
> It was a parable. It worked for the people at the time. It allowed them
> to think about more important things, like survival.
>
> The cannibal left suck at logic.
>
>

Someone needs to tell all the conservative fundies it's just a bunch
of "parables"...