Governor Schwarzenegger has AGAIN demonstrated that he is the best man for the job as he protects our children from violent VG's!
Bible John
10/07/2005
Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
Remarks
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today that he signed
legislation to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. In
addition the Governor signed legislation to: require cigarettes sold in
California meet fire safety standards, protect high school athletes from
the dangers of performance enhancing dietary supplements, improve and
encourage adoptions, promote long lasting and loving homes for foster
children, provide better support for youth leaving the foster care
system and protect babies from neglect or abuse.
Images of the Governor"Today I signed legislation to ensure parent
involvement in determining which video games are appropriate for their
children. The bill I signed will require that violent video games be
clearly labeled and not be sold to children under 18 years old. Many of
these games are made for adults and choosing games that are appropriate
for kids should be a decision made by their parents," said Governor
Schwarzenegger. "I also signed into law legislation that will improve
foster care services, guard kids from the dangers of steroid use,
protect children and everyone from accidental fires by requiring
cigarette manufacturers to change the way they make their products,
improve the adoption process in California and save babies from neglect
and abuse. It is very important to continue putting our children first
and doing everything we can to protect their well-being."
Protecting Children from Violent Material
AB 1179 by Assemblymember Leland Yee (D-San Francisco) - Violent video
games: sales to minors.
* Video of the GovernorAB 1179 prohibits the sale or rental of
violent video games to anyone under the age of 18 and requires a label
to be affixed to all games falling into this category. This legislation
also imposes a fine of up to $1,000 on anyone who sells or rents violent
video games to minors.
Protecting Children's Safety
SB 116 by Senator Bob Dutton (R-Rancho Cucamonga) - Child abandonment:
newborns.
* SB 116 reduces the number of abused children and child deaths by
extending the Safely Surrendered Baby Law. Under this program a parent
can surrender their baby to local safety offices without fear of
criminal prosecution.
SB 720 by Senator Sheila Kuehl (D-Santa Monica) - Court orders.
* SB 720 requires information regarding domestic violence protective
orders to be entered into the Statewide Domestic Violence Restraining
Order System in order to ensure the protection of victims of domestic
violence.
SB 726 by Senator Dean Florez (D-Shafter) - Dependent children. Click
here for signing message.
* SB 726 gives courts the option to require a home visit by a social
worker within three months after placement to ensure safety and
appropriateness of a child's placement with a non-custodial parent.
AB 178 by Assemblymember Paul Koretz (D-West Hollywood) - California
Cigarette Fire Safety and Firefighter Protection Act.
* AB 178 requires all cigarettes sold in California to meet fire
safety standards and be made using "self-extinguishing" technology.
Protecting Children's Health
SB 37 by Senator Jackie Speier (D-Hillsborough) - Prohibited substances.
Click here for signing message.
* SB 37 prohibits performance enhancing dietary supplements from
being used by high school student athletes and requires student-athletes
and their parents to sign a pledge not to use them. In addition, this
legislation requires all high school sports coaches to complete a
coaching development program that includes education on the use of
steroids and performance enhancing dietary supplements.
SB 377 by Senator Deborah V. Ortiz (D-Sacramento) - Medi-Cal: dental
services.
* SB 377 prevents premature deliveries and low-birth weight babies
by immediately providing dental services to pregnant Medi-Cal
beneficiaries.
Protecting Foster Children
SB 358 by Senator Jack Scott (D-Altadena) - Child care.
* SB 358 gives foster parents greater freedom to enjoy an occasional
night out by allowing them to choose a babysitter as they would for
their own children.
SB 436 by Senator Carole Migden (D-San Francisco) - Foster care:
transitional housing.
* SB 436 will provide a safety net and increase the amount of
housing available for pregnant and parenting foster teens.
SB 500 by Senator Sheila Kuehl (D-Santa Monica) - AFDC-FC: pregnant and
parenting foster youth.
* SB 500 keeps teen moms in foster care united with their babies by
providing placement in a whole family foster home where teen parents
develop the skills necessary to provide a safe, stable and permanent
home for their children. In addition, this legislation allows for full
foster care payment to be paid for both the teen parent and their child
and provides an additional $200 a month in support for the child.
AB 519 by Assemblymember Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) - Parental rights.
* AB 519 allows foster youth to emancipate from the foster care
system with the child's legal parentage intact and a connection to a
family and therefore reinstate the child's right to inheritance, social
security and other survivor benefits.
AB 760 by Assemblymember Pedro Nava (D-Santa Barbara) - Criminal
procedure.
* AB 760 allows parents or custodians of a minor child who have been
arrested to make two additional phone calls to arrange for the care of
their child.
AB 824 by Assemblymember Judy Chu (D-Monterey Park) - AFDC-FC benefits:
transitional housing.
* AB 824 stabilizes housing needs for youth exiting the foster care
program by offering transitional assistance up to age 24.
AB 1116 by Assemblymember Leland Yee (D-San Francisco) - Community care
facilities: foster children: injections.
* AB 1116 authorizes designated foster care providers and other care
providers to administer injections and provide emergency assistance to
foster care children if trained by licensed health care professionals.
AB 1261 by Assemblymember Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) - Foster children:
education.
* AB 1261 protects the continuity of education services for foster
youth and ensures that former foster youth have access to their vital
health and education records by requiring county welfare departments to
provide this information to the child when they come of age.
AB 1412 by Assemblymember Mark Leno (D-San Francisco) - Dependent
children: out-of-home placements.
* AB 1412 promotes the cultivation of supportive relationships
between foster youth and mentors, which will result in valuable,
life-long relationships with people who can help foster children
succeed. In addition this legislation allows foster youth to participate
in their own case planning and gives them a voice in their lives and
future.
AB 1633 by Assemblymember Noreen Evans (D-Santa Rosa) - Foster children:
high school: social security assistance.
* AB 1633 increases foster youth's access to benefits and assists in
their transition out of foster care by ensuring that children and youth
in foster care receive the maximum assistance from social security and
supplemental security benefits. This legislation also extends benefits
to up to age 19 for foster care children seeking a high school
equivalency certificate.
Improving and Encouraging Adoption
SB 218 by Senator Jack Scott (D-Altadena) - Termination of parental
rights: prospective adoptive parents.
* SB 218 allows for increased continuity of parenting and adoption
by a caretaker by allowing the court to designate a caretaker as a
prospective adoptive parent of a child who is a dependent of the court.
SB 302 by Senator Jack Scott (D-Altadena) - Adoption.
* SB 302 allows for continuity of parenting by clarifying laws
regarding adoptions, expediting adoptions and increasing the permanency
of pre-adoptive placements.
Protecting Children's Rights
AB 1669 by Assemblymember Judy Chu (D-Monterey Park) - Employment:
discrimination.
* AB 1669 allows minors who were discriminated against under the
Fair Employment and Housing Act to file a complaint as an adult by
extending the statute of limitations to one year from the date the
complainant turns 18 years old.
Governor Schwarzenegger also vetoed the following bill:
AB 880 by Assemblymember Rebecca Cohn (D-Saratoga) - Dependent children.
Click here for veto message.
Governor Schwarzenegger has consistently taken action to protect and
provide for California's children by:
* Investing in education at the highest level in the history of
California by increasing K-14 funding by nearly $3 billion and going
beyond Proposition 98 requirements.
* Increasing funding for the Healthy Families Program by 18 percent,
securing $346 million to provide low-cost or no-cost health insurance to
California's hard-working families -- money to provide important
healthcare for 867,400 kids, an increase of 126,600 above last year.
* Strengthening Megan's Law and signing legislation to protect
children from sex offenders and child abuse. Governor Schwarzenegger
also proposed the toughest sex offender laws in the history of
California when he asked the Legislature to support the Sexual Predator
Punishment and Control Act. The Governor hopes the Legislature will join
with him in the coming year to pass this critical legislation to protect
California's children.
* Leading California's efforts to combat our obesity epidemic by
signing landmark legislation to bring healthy food and drinks into
California public schools.
###
GOVERNOR ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER · SACRAMENTO,
CALIFORNIA 95814 · (916) 445-2841
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the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.
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The Pretzel
"Bible John" <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote in message
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> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> 10/07/2005
>
> Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
Oh JEEEEZus....
Mr. Terminator has created and produced some of the most violent movies in
Hollywood.
What a JOKE.
Video gaming industry should pack it's bags and move out of California. See how
the AhhhhNULD Turns green on that...
BTW.
STOP CROSSPOSTING.
--
Freedom may not be free but it shouldn't be a rip-off.
Rick Hohensee
Bible John <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote:
>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>10/07/2005
>
>Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
>
>Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
>
>Remarks
>
>Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today that he signed
>legislation to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. In
Conan movies are OK?
What a fucking joke.
The Pretzel
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Freedom may not be free but it shouldn't be a rip-off.
"Rick Hohensee" <humb...@smart.net> wrote in message
news:11khedk...@corp.supernews.com...
> In article <john.doggett-BD88...@News-West.newsfeeds.com>,
> Bible John <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote:
> >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >10/07/2005
> >
> >Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
> >
> >Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
> >
> >Remarks
> >
> >Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today that he signed
> >legislation to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. In
>
>
> Conan movies are OK?
No.
Time-traveling Killer marching Cyborgs out to abort a fetus retroactivly is
OK.....
> What a fucking joke.
You Betcha....
..and the clown(s) calls himself(themselves) a "Christian".
They're Christ killers.
Rick Hohensee
Rick Hohensee <humb...@smart.net> wrote:
>In article <john.doggett-BD88...@News-West.newsfeeds.com>,
>Bible John <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote:
>>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>10/07/2005
>>
>>Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
>>
>>Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
>>
>>Remarks
>>
>>Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today that he signed
>>legislation to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. In
>
>
>Conan movies are OK?
>
>What a fucking joke.
>
Amazing. A cartoon character becomes a charicature of himself.
GLOBAL MAN
"The Pretzel" <rold...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Absolutely. Get out of our lives, Arnold.
Since when does the US Constitution say that former Hollywood , billionaire
faggot actors make the rules for all the rest of us?
GLOBAL MAN
"j w @yoh.hah>" <j-w<no> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 06:40:49 GMT, "The Pretzel"
> <rold...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
> can be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the author.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Freedom may not be free but it shouldn't be a rip-off.
>>"Rick Hohensee" <humb...@smart.net> wrote in message
>>news:11khedk...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> In article <john.doggett-BD88...@News-West.newsfeeds.com>,
>>> Bible John <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote:
>>> >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>> >10/07/2005
>>> >
>>> >Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
>>> >
>>> >Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
>>> >
>>> >Remarks
>>> >
>>> >Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today that he signed
>>> >legislation to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. In
>>>
>>>
>>> Conan movies are OK?
>>No.
>>Time-traveling Killer marching Cyborgs out to abort a fetus retroactivly
>>is
>>OK.....
>
>
> you know what you're getting UP FRONT.
>
> With too many of the video games, the parents aren't aware of the
> stuff you can access with the "cheat codes."
>
>
> john w
Sure and Repug parents really hate it when a half naked actress like Sharon
Stone appears in one of doper Arnold's flicks in front of their teen aged
boys who end up going home and raping their 8 year old sister or the family
dog.
The Pretzel
--
Freedom may not be free but it shouldn't be a rip-off.
"j w @yoh.hah>" <j-w<no> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 06:40:49 GMT, "The Pretzel"
> <rold...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
> can be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the author.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Freedom may not be free but it shouldn't be a rip-off.
> >"Rick Hohensee" <humb...@smart.net> wrote in message
> >news:11khedk...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> In article <john.doggett-BD88...@News-West.newsfeeds.com>,
> >> Bible John <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote:
> >> >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >> >10/07/2005
> >> >
> >> >Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
> >> >
> >> >Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
> >> >
> >> >Remarks
> >> >
> >> >Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today that he signed
> >> >legislation to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. In
> >>
> >>
> >> Conan movies are OK?
> >No.
> >Time-traveling Killer marching Cyborgs out to abort a fetus retroactivly is
> >OK.....
>
> AGAIN, at least with Conan and Time-traveling Cyborgs,
>
> you know what you're getting UP FRONT.
<Laughing>
InDEED!
> With too many of the video games, the parents aren't aware of the
> stuff you can access with the "cheat codes."
Today, here in the 21st century, we call them "Easter eggs"
LOL!
A nice "Christian" backdrop!
ROTFLMAO!
http://www.eeggs.com/items/46295.html
>
> john w
-old LOZER.
The Pretzel
--
Freedom may not be free but it shouldn't be a rip-off.
"j w @yoh.hah>" <j-w<no> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 22:11:56 -0700, Bible John
> <john.d...@x-files.govx-no-archive:
> > wrote:
> copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
> can be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the author.
> >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >10/07/2005
> >
> >Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
> >
> >Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
>
> I recently heard a discussion of the ban that's being
> considered/written into law concerning the sale of violent video games
> to minors.
>
> What too many critics of this law do not realize-- something Montel
> Williams pointed out is that parents who get talked into buying these
> games are not told that the kids can swap with one another, or they
> can go online and download "cheat codes" that unlock secret places in
> the game that are
> 1. extremely violent
> 2. promote drug use
> 3. promote violence
> 4. are hard-core pornographic
> 5. use VERY explicit language that you might not want your 11-year old
> son to hear.
6. Your pecker will fall off.
7. Your kid will grow hair on his palms.
8. He'll go BLIND.
>
> Montel's point-- which I as a parent agree with TOTALLY-- is that we
> parents want to know what we are buying our kids.
Fine. Inform. Do NOT regulate.
> There was even a sitcom on this afternoon that dramatized the problem.
> Mom and dad were going out for the evening, and the kids were
> anxiously waiting the parents to leave so that the kids could break
> out their violent, sexually explicit video games and their "cheat
> codes."
Ahhh. Ethics from sit-coms. Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Ayn Rand...
....sit-coms.
> The parents-- however-- had anticipated that move, and they had put
> the "parental kids lockout" cheat codes on the game machine. When the
> kids plugged the nasty video game into the game machine, it wouldn't
> run.
Oooooooooooo! Lesson learned: Make sure the game works. Make sure mom and dad
hasn't locked you out.....
> A similar point has been made about pornographic shows on cable TV.
> The general notion has been "if you don't like it, turn the channel or
> turn it off."
>
> The folly of this POV was pointed out eloquently by Dr Jim Dobson.
Ohhhhhhhhh, JEEEEZUZ!!!!!
> He
> said he sat down with his 5-year old son to watch cartoons one
> Saturday afternoon, and as they flipped through the stations, they
> happened to pass a cable show that was playing a hard-core film. While
> EXPLICIT XXX sex was NOT shown, a fully nude female was shown, and she
> was positioned in the "just before penetration missionary position".
...and the kid said?
> The dad, Jim Dobson, said he changed the channel as quick as he could,
> but the damage was done.
<Laughing>
Oh MY GOD!!! A NUDE WOMAN!! Son, SON!!!! THe DAMAGE....!
You want Damage? This is damage, Moron. Damage you promote. Damage you support,
you pathetic monster. You idiots cry crocodile tears and lament on and on about
our "evil culture".
http://www.allied-media.com/aljazeera/VICS.htm
You support that. No WMD. No threat.... Look at the little kids you monster.
...and look what Dobson said about "Damage being done." Look at the pics. LOOK
AT 'EM!!! LOOK!!!!!!!!!!!! Make sure your kids aren't around. You'd have to
explain it to them.
Screw you. You want Porn? THIS is porn. Not the images. The little girls life
GONE. Little girls in sweat shops and sold into prostitution endorsed by your
criminal Tom DeLay. Their LIVES SOLD. GONE.
http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/apr1998/mari-a02.shtml
GEE. I'm sorry Dobson broke a fucking finger nail.
That's Evil. THAT'S porn...
http://www.allied-media.com/aljazeera/VICS.htm
Not talking to your kids and telling them what it's all about. That's evil.
That's porn.
> So much for "changing the channel."
It's simple minds like you that need to be "changed". EDUCATED.
> He then had to try to explain to a 5-year old boy what he had just
> seen.
Gee....
Was the kid asking Questions? Good thing.
Did Dobson BS? Probably.
BAD thing.
Though shalt not lie.
> America's parents DO have the right to NOT have their homes invaded
> with such!
>
>
>
> God bless!
"A similar reaction was voiced by a powerful Republican congressman, House
Majority Whip Tom DeLay, who took a New Year's junket to the islands and spoke
at a banquet sponsored by one of the biggest garment manufacturers, Willie Tan.
DeLay hailed the sweatshop industry as a "free market success" and denounced the
proposed labor legislation as an effort to "kill economic freedom."
A favorite of the Christian fundamentalists, DeLay presented the defense these
barbaric conditions as a moral imperative. He told his audience, which profits
from sweatshop exploitation and forced prostitution: "Stand firm. Resist evil.
Remember that all truth and blessings emanate from our Creator." He went on to
declare that he favored creating a similar "guest worker program" for Mexicans
in the United States that would eliminate the minimum wage."
> john w
More like God Curse.....
Don't you DARE proselytize to US what is moral.
How dare you.
man_in_...@yahoo.com
> Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger announced today that he signed
> legislation to ban the sale of violent video games to minors.
God, what's next? Bush cracking down on coke?
R. Steve Walz
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> 10/07/2005
>
> Governor Schwarzenegger Takes Steps to Protect Children
>
> Signs legislation to Ban the Sale of Violent Video Games to Minors
Useless rightist crankism. There's no proof whatsoever that video
games, movies, comic books, or a kid's own imagination make him
violent, since the HUGE VAST majority of us who play/watch/read/
/fantasize would never do anything vicious in the manner of the
psychopathic criminals we see who are apt to do. The single most
important thing to remember about this issue is that appealing
to right-religious-self-appointed public nanny groups is the
quickest and cheapest way to get the mentally deficient fraction
of the populace to vote for you blindly and ignore anything else
vicious or stupid that you might do regarding issues that are too
complex for them to comprehend. In the final analysis such laws are
meaningless, since people get video games from paying adults, in
most cases, who either intend for the kid to use them, or use them
themselves as well. The 18 year old brother of a friend will buy
them for you for $5.
About the only kid this disenfranchises is the kid with no friends
in a trailer with an alcoholic mother who is too drunk to go
to the store and buy his violent video games for him, and then we
have a LOT more to worry about than what he does when she's not
drinking, beating on him, or having her boyfriend do it FOR her!
Only kids who have been harmed by REAL abuse become dangerous,
and video game violence looks silly, trivial and meaningless by
comparison.
The rest of us are happy to leave the PHONY violence in the movie
DVD or video game where we can turn it off or walk away from it.
Steve
Bible John
"R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> wrote:
> Useless rightist crankism. There's no proof whatsoever that video
> games, movies, comic books, or a kid's own imagination make him
> violent, since the HUGE VAST majority of us who play/watch/read/
> /fantasize would never do anything vicious in the manner of the
> psychopathic criminals we see who are apt to do.
Yes there is. Please do the research. I once skimmed a 20 page document
on the subject and found research contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
The single most
> important thing to remember about this issue is that appealing
> to right-religious-self-appointed public nanny groups is the
> quickest and cheapest way to get the mentally deficient fraction
> of the populace to vote for you blindly and ignore anything else
> vicious or stupid that you might do regarding issues that are too
> complex for them to comprehend. In the final analysis such laws are
> meaningless, since people get video games from paying adults, in
> most cases, who either intend for the kid to use them, or use them
> themselves as well. The 18 year old brother of a friend will buy
> them for you for $5.
>
> About the only kid this disenfranchises is the kid with no friends
> in a trailer with an alcoholic mother who is too drunk to go
> to the store and buy his violent video games for him, and then we
> have a LOT more to worry about than what he does when she's not
> drinking, beating on him, or having her boyfriend do it FOR her!
>
> Only kids who have been harmed by REAL abuse become dangerous,
> and video game violence looks silly, trivial and meaningless by
> comparison.
>
> The rest of us are happy to leave the PHONY violence in the movie
> DVD or video game where we can turn it off or walk away from it.
> Steve
Video games are more active than a passive exercize like watching a
movie.
--
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http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and
Last of All
> In article <434A29...@armory.com>,
> "R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> wrote:
>
>> Useless rightist crankism. There's no proof whatsoever that video
>> games, movies, comic books, or a kid's own imagination make him
>> violent, since the HUGE VAST majority of us who play/watch/read/
>> /fantasize would never do anything vicious in the manner of the
>> psychopathic criminals we see who are apt to do.
>
> Yes there is. Please do the research. I once skimmed a 20 page document
> on the subject and found research contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
>
IF you read research funded by the tobacco companies, you'll find cigarettes
don't harm you either. You can find research to support any argument.
--
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
Just Mark - John Wolf's biggest fan
"Bible John" <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote in message
news:john.doggett-C3F3...@News-West.newsfeeds.com...
: "R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> wrote:
:
: > Useless rightist crankism. There's no proof whatsoever that video
: > games, movies, comic books, or a kid's own imagination make him
: > violent, since the HUGE VAST majority of us who play/watch/read/
: > /fantasize would never do anything vicious in the manner of the
: > psychopathic criminals we see who are apt to do.
:
: Yes there is. Please do the research. I once skimmed a 20 page document
: on the subject and found research contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
A whole 20 pages, eh?
JM
Sue Rodgers
> I once skimmed a 20 page document on the subject and found research
> contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
I once read a 40-page document that completely disproved your document.
--
Rivers belong where they can ramble, eagles belong where they can fly...
Pastor Dave
soo...@bellnotnorth.invalid (Sue Rodgers) spake thusly:
>Bible John <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote:
>
>> I once skimmed a 20 page document on the subject and found research
>> contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
>
>I once read a 40-page document that completely disproved your document.
Oh yea? Well, let me tell YOU something, punk!
I once read an 80 page document and the 2nd 40 pages
disproved the 1st 40 pages! How do you like THAT?!
Yea! Now try to top THAT ya little whiner! Hmmmph!!!
<LOL!> :)
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"If you will not believe,
Surely you will not be established."
- Isaiah 7:9b
R. Steve Walz
>
> In article <434A29...@armory.com>,
> "R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> wrote:
>
> > Useless rightist crankism. There's no proof whatsoever that video
> > games, movies, comic books, or a kid's own imagination make him
> > violent, since the HUGE VAST majority of us who play/watch/read/
> > /fantasize would never do anything vicious in the manner of the
> > psychopathic criminals we see who are apt to do.
>
> Yes there is. Please do the research. I once skimmed a 20 page document
> on the subject and found research contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
With pictures, no doubt.
My education certainly excedes yours, you twit.
You SKIMMED?? You mean you MIS-read it. I've read everything I could
find on this, and every so-called "study", that finds that kids are
MORE likely to be "violent" after watching/playing this stuff, fails
to distinguish between simple youthful exuberence and friendly acting
versus actual heinous vicious criminal violence. It's as though they
want to pretend they don't even know HOW to do the study CORRECTLY!
> The single most
> > important thing to remember about this issue is that appealing
> > to right-religious-self-appointed public nanny groups is the
> > quickest and cheapest way to get the mentally deficient fraction
> > of the populace to vote for you blindly and ignore anything else
> > vicious or stupid that you might do regarding issues that are too
> > complex for them to comprehend. In the final analysis such laws are
> > meaningless, since people get video games from paying adults, in
> > most cases, who either intend for the kid to use them, or use them
> > themselves as well. The 18 year old brother of a friend will buy
> > them for you for $5.
> >
> > About the only kid this disenfranchises is the kid with no friends
> > in a trailer with an alcoholic mother who is too drunk to go
> > to the store and buy his violent video games for him, and then we
> > have a LOT more to worry about than what he does when she's not
> > drinking, beating on him, or having her boyfriend do it FOR her!
> >
> > Only kids who have been harmed by REAL abuse become dangerous,
> > and video game violence looks silly, trivial and meaningless by
> > comparison.
> >
> > The rest of us are happy to leave the PHONY violence in the movie
> > DVD or video game where we can turn it off or walk away from it.
> > Steve
>
> Video games are more active than a passive exercize like watching a
> movie.
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Irrelevant. They AREN'T REAL! They are button-pushing!! The kids who
play them KNOW that, which is why the stats for HEINOUS VICIOUS
VIOLENCE are lower among video-game players than among comic book
readers.
But what is even MORE sad, is that those comic readers who are being
deprived of expensive video games and game systems are USUALLY kids
who are trapped in worthless or abusive families with no prospects
and no hope for a future, and THEY HAVE to undertake violence because
it is what they have to deal with constantly in their life and the
only visible path OUT of that.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:13:05 -0400,
> soo...@bellnotnorth.invalid (Sue Rodgers) spake thusly:
>
> >Bible John <john.d...@x-files.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> I once skimmed a 20 page document on the subject and found research
> >> contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
> >
> >I once read a 40-page document that completely disproved your document.
>
> Oh yea? Well, let me tell YOU something, punk!
>
> I once read an 80 page document and the 2nd 40 pages
> disproved the 1st 40 pages! How do you like THAT?!
>
> Yea! Now try to top THAT ya little whiner! Hmmmph!!!
>
> <LOL!> :)
Methunks Dave actually missed the point.
> Pastor Dave
> 1st Century Church of Christ
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1st century? Hmm, then you're already long-dead.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > Bible John wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <434A29...@armory.com>,
> >> "R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Useless rightist crankism. There's no proof whatsoever that video
> >> > games, movies, comic books, or a kid's own imagination make him
> >> > violent, since the HUGE VAST majority of us who play/watch/read/
> >> > /fantasize would never do anything vicious in the manner of the
> >> > psychopathic criminals we see who are apt to do.
> >>
> >> Yes there is. Please do the research. I once skimmed a 20 page document
> >> on the subject and found research contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
> > -------------------
> > With pictures, no doubt.
> > My education certainly excedes yours, you twit.
> >
>
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Nor do I need one to trump your impoverished HS shit-rag.
Steve
Pastor Dave
<rst...@armory.com> spake thusly:
>> >> I once skimmed a 20 page document
>> >> on the subject and found research
>> >> contrary to your uneducated viewpoints.
>> >
>> >I once read a 40-page document that
>> >completely disproved your document.
>>
>> Oh yea? Well, let me tell YOU something, punk!
>>
>> I once read an 80 page document and the 2nd 40 pages
>> disproved the 1st 40 pages! How do you like THAT?!
>>
>> Yea! Now try to top THAT ya little whiner! Hmmmph!!!
>>
>> <LOL!> :)
>--------------------------
>Methunks Dave actually missed the point.
Or, Dave did get the point and he was just joking
around. Note the smiley and the "<LOL>", :)
--
Pastor Dave
1st Century Church of Christ
"If you will not believe,