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How Jehovah's Witnesses Twist Scriptures
by Lorri MacGregor


Of all the cult groups, Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones that are the most
deceitful and clever when it comes to the twisting and distorting of the
Bible. The ones at your door are not responsible, but are deceived by those
at headquarters. I was formerly a Jehovah's Witness for fifteen years, and
understand that organization from the inside out. Those in control are so
clever in their distortions that members are convinced that they are
continually receiving "truth." They even inquire, "How long have you been in
the truth?" (meaning the Jehovah's Witness Organization).


At my very first encounter with Jehovah's Witnesses, they put the twist on
John 14:28, where Jesus said, "...the Father is greater than I," and told me
the Trinity was a doctrine of Satan, Jesus was inferior to his Father, and
an archangel named Michael to boot. How proficient they seemed flipping all
over the Bible from one (unrelated) Scripture to another! I was impressed.
As our "bible studies" progressed, I was warned, "...work out your own
salvation with fear and trembling...," quoting only a portion of the thought
in Philippians 2:12. I was told this consisted of "publishing the good news
of God's kingdom" by asking for contributions for their publications
door-to-door, attending five meetings a week, and making numerous other
quotas. Of course, I was never directed to the following verse, which
continued the same sentence, "...for it is God who is at work in you, both
to will and to work for His good pleasure" (Philippians 2:13).

The Jehovah's Witnesses at headquarters want to make sure their members know
nothing of the indwelling Christ ("for it is God who is at work IN YOU..."),
and they have removed this truth from numerous scriptures in their "bible."
Everywhere it says "Christ IN YOU," they have altered the text to read, "IN
UNION WITH YOU." However, worse distortions are yet to be discussed.


HOW RELIABLE IS THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Many scholars will not even apply the term "translation" to this "bible."
The Watchtower Society needed a bible to conform to their strange doctrines,
and so they created one. The "translation" was done by a five-member
committee in Brooklyn, New York. Four of these men had a high school
education only, with no Hebrew or Greek knowledge at all. The fifth man, the
late Fred W. Franz, although claiming to know Hebrew and Greek (without
credentials), while under oath in a Scottish Court of Law, failed a simple
Hebrew test. He was a college sophomore dropout, and lied about being
offered a Rhodes Scholarship. No wonder the Society refuses to name their
translators, and prefers to be anonymous and "humble!" No reputable scholar
will endorse this "translation," and no one suffers more in this distortion
than the Lord Jesus Christ.


DISTORTING JOHN 1:1

"In (the) beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was a god" (New World Translation).


Since the Jehovah's Witnesses portray Jesus as a lesser god, the archangel
Michael, and merely a man on earth, they needed a Bible to suit their
misrepresentations. They resorted to quoting a spirit medium, Johannes
Greber, and referring to an altered translation by the Unitarians (who also
deny Christ's Deity). Then they used the Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin
Wilson, a Christadelphian, a cult which also denies the Deity of Christ.
Last, but not least, they bent the rules for Greek grammar.

Why would the Watchtower Society CHOOSE sources that are false and even
demonic? Why do they further CHOOSE to ignore Greek scholars who are
reputable? Every Jehovah's Witness needs to get satisfactory answers to
these important questions.


John 1:1 correctly reads, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God."

MISREPRESENTING CHRIST GOES ON IN THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION


A most revealing publication of the Watchtower Society is a purple
interlinear translation called "The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the
Greek Scriptures," published in 1969. In this book their scripture
distortions can be clearly seen, especially the altering of the text in
places where Jesus is called "God." So successful has this publication been
in setting Jehovah's Witnesses free from the Watchtower Society that they
have taken it out of print and substituted one in which the distortions are
masked much more successfully. We recommend the original, if you can find
one from marketers of old Watchtower Publications.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DISTORTION OF COLOSSIANS 2:9


"because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells
bodily" (New World Translation).

Notice the words, "divine quality". They are found nowhere in the Greek
text. Why then are they inserted in the New World Translation? Obviously
because the Jehovah's Witness leaders could not have their membership know
that "all the fullness of Deity" is dwelling in Christ bodily! Notice the
Greek/English side of the Kingdom Interlinear Translation, "because in him
is dwelling down all the fullness of the godship bodily."


Looking up the word "godship" in any reputable Bible Dictionary, we find it
also reads, "Godhead" or "Deity." It can never be honestly translated
"divine quality." Why would the Watchtower Translators be so dishonest to
insert extra words in the text, and at the same time, ignore the truth about
Jesus? The correct reading of Colossians 2:9 should be, "For in Him all the
fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form" (NAS).

Yes, all is all, and full is full, and Jesus is Deity (God), even in the
flesh! No wonder the verse just previous is a warning to watch out for those
who would misrepresent Christ!


"See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty
deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary
principles of the world, rather than according to Christ" (Col. 2:8).

Jehovah's Witnesses have been duped by their leadership into accepting a
counterfeit Jesus Christ, counterfeit salvation, and yes-an altered bible
with dishonest or missing scholarship. Next time we will continue on with
our examination of the twisting of the Scriptures by the Jehovah's Witnesses
in their New World Translation.


MacGregor Ministries
Box 454 Metaline Falls WA 99153
Box 294 Nelson B.C. V1L 5P9
Visit our WEB: http://www.macgregorministries.org/

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May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/


rogue

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Mar 11, 2008, 9:36:22 PM3/11/08
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On Mar 11, 8:57 pm, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
> How Jehovah's Witnesses Twist Scriptures
> by Lorri MacGregor
>
> Of all the cult groups, Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones that are the most
> deceitful and clever when it comes to the twisting and distorting of the
> Bible.

JERRY
Pot-kettle-black. I've been watching the Trinitarians in Usenet for
about a year now taking verses out of context and twisting them to
claim they mean entirely different things.

Remove the beam from your own eye, Carl, before you remove the mote
from your brothers.

JC

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Mar 12, 2008, 2:01:50 AM3/12/08
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On Mar 11, 6:36 pm, rogue <rogue...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[...]


> JERRY
> Pot-kettle-black.  I've been watching the Trinitarians in Usenet for
> about a year now taking verses out of context and twisting them to
> claim they mean entirely different things.
>
> Remove the beam from your own eye, Carl, before you remove the mote
> from your brothers.

Riduculing other religions is the right thing to do when the right
people do it. However it's the wrong thing to do when the wrong
people do it. Your name happens to be on the "Wrong People" list so
you had best watch your step. This revalation might cause you to
wonder how a name ends up on the "Right People" list. Those on the
"Right People" list get to decide.

You see it's all very simple. :-)


JC


bob young

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Mar 12, 2008, 4:50:02 AM3/12/08
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Carl wrote:

> How Jehovah's Witnesses Twist Scriptures
> by Lorri MacGregor
>
> Of all the cult groups, Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones that are the most
> deceitful and clever when it comes to the twisting and distorting of the
> Bible. The ones at your door are not responsible, but are deceived by those
> at headquarters. I was formerly a Jehovah's Witness for fifteen years, and
> understand that organization from the inside out. Those in control are so
> clever in their distortions that members are convinced that they are
> continually receiving "truth." They even inquire, "How long have you been in
> the truth?" (meaning the Jehovah's Witness Organization).

"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander
each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head
of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it
wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]

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Carl

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Mar 13, 2008, 1:40:30 AM3/13/08
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:57:14 -0400, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com>
> wrote:
> © 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

>>How Jehovah's Witnesses Twist Scriptures
>>by Lorri MacGregor
>>
>>
>>Of all the cult groups, Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones that are the most
>>deceitful and clever when it comes to the twisting and distorting of the
>>Bible. The ones at your door are not responsible, but are deceived by
>>those
>>at headquarters. I was formerly a Jehovah's Witness for fifteen years,
>
> You're a former Jehovah's Witness? ???
>
> That explains a LOT!!!
>
> ;-)

Uh...I hope you're kidding.

However for clarification purposes, I was never a member of the Jehovah's
Witnesses cult although I have done extensive research on the cult over the
past 20 years.

It is actually the author of the article, Lorri MacGregor, who is a former
Jehovah's Witness and her website is a good source for information of their
false teachings, the prophecies that didn't come true that the Watchtower
Bible And Tract Society made and other things the WTBTS are known for.
Plenty of documentation so there is no question to the source of the claims.
One thing you find with the WTBTS is that they habitually alter reprints of
their publication to coverup gross errors and keep the average JW in the
dark about their false claims and egregious errors. That's why it's best to
have original printings.

Anyway, just some clarifications.

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<<<~A John 3:16 Whosoever~>>>

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Mar 13, 2008, 6:31:46 PM3/13/08
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On Mar 13, 2:31 pm, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   I love you, brother, and -- between buddies--- I'm having a little
> JOKE at your expense.

No, you misread it, you thought that Carl was saying he had been a JW,
and you are unable to admit your mistake.

Again.

(I'm surprised you didn't claim it was a "typo")

john w <johnw

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Mar 13, 2008, 8:53:29 PM3/13/08
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You are a liar and a false accuser.

(oh, by the way, do you feel better now?)


<<<~A John 3:16 Whosoever~>>>

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Mar 13, 2008, 9:02:15 PM3/13/08
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On Mar 13, 5:53 pm, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   You are a liar and a false accuser.

I'm not the one who made an obvious mistake and then tried to cover it
up. Seriously John - this one was no biggie and pretty much anyone
could have made the error. Why you think it's some terrible thing to
admit that you read his post wrong is beyond me...

Merlin

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Mar 14, 2008, 10:22:07 AM3/14/08
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On Mar 13, 1:40 am, "Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:

> However for clarification purposes, I was never a member of the Jehovah's
> Witnesses cult although I have done extensive research on the cult over the
> past 20 years.
>


who cares what you think when we have seen how you treat people on
here. it isn't the witnesses problem that you are who you are. it
isn't the anyone you attack's problem. you is your own problem carl.
for you seem to represent a whole race of american christians that
have never met jesus nor god and yet know all about them and can
threatening others and judge others like you are jesus right hand man.

your words are of the words of a segregationist.
your words are the words of a very superstitious religious man.
your words lead to hatred and confusion.
and all in jesus name. go figure.

good for you. bad for you soul? LOL.

in love with the living gay jesus,

merlin

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Mar 14, 2008, 7:33:02 PM3/14/08
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On Mar 14, 3:04 pm, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

>   You're a liar, or you didn't read  his post very carefully.

LOL!!! See below.

>   Carl most definitely stated in his original post that he was once a
> Jehovah's Witness.
>
>  I quote:
>
>  " I was formerly a Jehovah's Witness for fifteen years..."
>
>    So, you're wrong AGAIN.

LOL!!!!

*Carl* didn't say any such thing, JW. The person whose article he
posted said it.

(So now, who is "wrong AGAIN"?????)

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rogue

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On Mar 15, 2:07 am, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes

> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:02:15 -0700 (PDT), "<<<~A John 3:16Whosoever~>>>" <kaseybec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> © 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
> >On Mar 13, 5:53 pm, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> You are a liar and a false accuser.
>
> >I'm not the one who made an obvious mistake and then tried to cover it
>
> I didn't make an obvious mistake, you pathological, demoniac LIAR.

JERRY
Demoniac?

<<<~A John 3:16 Whosoever~>>>

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Mar 15, 2008, 3:17:01 AM3/15/08
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On Mar 14, 8:04 pm, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

>     Unlike you, I am not "wrong AGAIN."  

Yes, you were wrong *again*.

> However, this time, I am
> wrong.

>   Unlike you, I DO admit my mistakes.

No - you *might* admit those that are blatant and have not been
deleted by the "No Archive" option in Google. As long as your
thousands of mistake and lie-laden posts don't exist in the Google
archives, you figure you're off the hook.

>   Let's see if you're big enough to admit your mistakes so readily in
> the future.

I have always freely and honestly admitted any mistakes I have made in
Usenet.

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Jani

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"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:17:01 -0700 (PDT), "<<<~A John 3:16
> Whosoever~>>>" <kasey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Š 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post

> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>On Mar 14, 8:04 pm, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Unlike you, I am not "wrong AGAIN."
>>
>>Yes, you were wrong *again*.
>>
>>> However, this time, I am
>>> wrong.
>>
>>> Unlike you, I DO admit my mistakes.
>>
>>No - you *might* admit those that are blatant and have not been
>>deleted by the "No Archive" option in Google.
>
> ^ ^ ^ I believe that's called paranoia. I didn't delete any blatant
> errors in Google.

You've been using no-archive in the hope that "blatant errors" can't be
attributed to you, though. Doesn't work: the replies still have your headers
and original text. You might as well own your own work in the first place.
Or, think before you post, or shut up altogether, etc.

Jani

NOSPAM

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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:32:56 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
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>


> ^ ^ ^ I believe that's called paranoia.


On 'your' part, yes.

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