Re: Fw: John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance
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Jun 17, 2008, 11:38:32 AM6/17/08
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DO NOT SEND ANY MORE OF YOUR CHEAP GARBAGE TO MY E-ADDRESS!! YOU AND THE SWIFT BOATERS (if not the same cheap group) ARE THE SCURGE OF THIS COUNTRY'S POLITICAL PROCESS. ALSO YOU ARE A BUNCH OF FRIGHTENED RICH PEOPLE HIDING BEHIND FEAR MONGERS CLOAKS. HOW DARE ANYONE BUT YOU RUN THIS COUNTRY. HOW DARE INDEED. THE TRUTH WILL SET US ALL FREE.
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> In a message dated 6/16/2008 4:55:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> serob...@yahoo.com writes:
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> Whether you agree with the very end of this message or not, it is always
> good to remember why we are lucky to live in this country.......
>
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> John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance
> In light of the recent appeals court ruling in California, with respect to
> the Pledge of Allegiance, the following recollection from Senator John McCain
> is very appropriate:
>
>
>
>
>
> 'The Pledge of Allegiance' - by Senator John McCain
> 'As y ou may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war
> during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us
> in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us
> from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40
> men to a room.
>
>
> This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of
> the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000
> miles from home.
>
>
> One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.
> Mike came from a small town near Selma , Alabama . He didn't wear a pair of
> shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later
> earned a commission by going to Officer Training School Then he became a
> Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and
> deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military
> provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.
>
>
> As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to
> receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs,
> scarves and other items of clothing.
>
>
> Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he
> created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.
>
>
> Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on
> the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.
>
>
> I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our
> day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most
> important and meaningful event.
>
>
> One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and
> discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.
>
>
> That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit
> of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours.
> Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as
> well as we could.
>
>
> The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middl e on which we
> slept Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room.
>
>
> As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the
> excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath
> that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo
> needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes
> almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He
> was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was
> making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge
> our allegiance to our flag and country.
>
>
> So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the
> sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our
> nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our
> honor, and our country.'
>
>
> 'I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
> republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisable, with
> liberty and justice for all.'
>
>
> PASS THIS ON... And on... And on! You can even send it back to me, I don't
> mind, because its worth reading again.
>
>
>
>
> oh.....and then you have this clown, who refuses to place his hand on his
> heart and say the pledge......
>
> Subject: Remember this picture on election day!
> Let's all remember this on election day...if you have family serving in the
> military, make sure you send it along. I don't care for Hillary, but at
> least she shows respect for the country she lives in!
> I had heard about this but a picture is definitely worth 1000 words! God
> save us!!!
>
>
>
> Senator Barack Obama, Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Hillary Clinton and
> Ruth Harkin stand during the national anthem.
> Barack Hussein Obama's photo (that's his real name)......the article said he
> REFUSED TO NOT ONLY PUT HIS HAND ON HIS HEART DURING THE PLEDGE OF
> ALLEGIANCE, BUT REFUSED TO SAY THE PLEDGE.....how in the hell can a man like this
> expect to be our next Commander-in-Chief
>
>
>
>
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---- LAVO...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/16/2008 4:55:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> serob...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Whether you agree with the very end of this message or not, it is always
> good to remember why we are lucky to live in this country.......
>
>
>
> John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance
> In light of the recent appeals court ruling in California, with respect to
> the Pledge of Allegiance, the following recollection from Senator John McCain
> is very appropriate:
>
>
>
>
>
> 'The Pledge of Allegiance' - by Senator John McCain
> 'As y ou may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war
> during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us
> in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us
> from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40
> men to a room.
>
>
> This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of
> the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000
> miles from home.
>
>
> One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.
> Mike came from a small town near Selma , Alabama . He didn't wear a pair of
> shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later
> earned a commission by going to Officer Training School Then he became a
> Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and
> deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military
> provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.
>
>
> As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to
> receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs,
> scarves and other items of clothing.
>
>
> Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he
> created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.
>
>
> Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on
> the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.
>
>
> I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our
> day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most
> important and meaningful event.
>
>
> One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and
> discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.
>
>
> That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit
> of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours.
> Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as
> well as we could.
>
>
> The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middl e on which we
> slept Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room.
>
>
> As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the
> excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath
> that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo
> needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes
> almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He
> was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was
> making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge
> our allegiance to our flag and country.
>
>
> So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the
> sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our
> nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our
> honor, and our country.'
>
>
> 'I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
> republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisable, with
> liberty and justice for all.'
>
>
> PASS THIS ON... And on... And on! You can even send it back to me, I don't
> mind, because its worth reading again.
>
>
>
>
> oh.....and then you have this clown, who refuses to place his hand on his
> heart and say the pledge......
>
> Subject: Remember this picture on election day!
> Let's all remember this on election day...if you have family serving in the
> military, make sure you send it along. I don't care for Hillary, but at
> least she shows respect for the country she lives in!
> I had heard about this but a picture is definitely worth 1000 words! God
> save us!!!
>
>
>
> Senator Barack Obama, Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Hillary Clinton and
> Ruth Harkin stand during the national anthem.
> Barack Hussein Obama's photo (that's his real name)......the article said he
> REFUSED TO NOT ONLY PUT HIS HAND ON HIS HEART DURING THE PLEDGE OF
> ALLEGIANCE, BUT REFUSED TO SAY THE PLEDGE.....how in the hell can a man like this
> expect to be our next Commander-in-Chief
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
> Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. _Watch the video on AOL Home_
> (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom000300000000
> 01) .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
> Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. _Watch the video on AOL Home_
> (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom0003000000000
> 1) .
>
>
>
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Nerd 42
Jun 17, 2008, 1:08:33 PM6/17/08
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(To the original sender) I'm a Republican. I probably share many of
your opinions. I'm for keeping the Pledge in public schools.
your opinions. I'm for keeping the Pledge in public schools.
But spam email is not a proper or appropriate place to spread this or
any message of this type. It is rude and furthermore it is an abuse of
our google group because it is completely off subject. Please refrain
from spreading political e-mails in non-political forums. It is an
embarrassment to whoever you are supporting and gives people
legitimate reasons to ignore you.
Janice Hensill-Dobson
Jun 17, 2008, 1:12:51 PM6/17/08
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To Google Groups: Free-Penguin Org:
I received a really offensive anti-Obama e-mail this morning.
I was about to email the sender and request that my name be removed from his/her mailing list, and I accidentally hit the "Send" key on my computer. As a result of my error, I may have accidentally recirculated the email I found offensive.
In any event, I would like to have my name removed from the free-penguin_org mailing list.
Best,
Janice
Janice Hensill-Dobson <magla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Janice Hensill-Dobson
Jun 17, 2008, 1:14:39 PM6/17/08
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I received a really offensive anti-Obama e-mail this morning.
I was about to email the sender and request that my name be removed from his/her mailing list, and I accidentally hit the Send key on my computer. As a result of my error I may have accidentally recirculated the email I found offensive.
In any event, I would like to have my name removed from the free-penguin_org mailing list.
Best,
(To the original sender) I'm a Republican. I probably share many of
your opinions. I'm for keeping the Pledge in public schools.
But spam email is not a proper or appropriate place to spread this or
any message of this type. It is rude and furthermore it is an abuse of
our google group because it is completely off subject. Please refrain
from spreading political e-mails in non-political forums. It is an
embarrassment to whoever you are supporting and gives people
legitimate reasons to ignore you.
Nerd 42
Jun 17, 2008, 1:15:46 PM6/17/08
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Nerd 42
Jun 17, 2008, 1:18:20 PM6/17/08
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The offensive thing is the fact that it was sent out as spam email. It
would be appropriate freedom of speech / First Amendment stuff if this
were a political forum about the election, which it is not.
would be appropriate freedom of speech / First Amendment stuff if this
were a political forum about the election, which it is not.
LAVO...@aol.com
Jun 17, 2008, 10:15:58 PM6/17/08
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Your name removed
LAVO...@aol.com
Jun 17, 2008, 10:16:27 PM6/17/08
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Your name removed.
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Jun 17, 2008, 10:18:17 PM6/17/08
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your name removed
LAVO...@aol.com
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Hannah Lovett
Jun 18, 2008, 9:37:25 PM6/18/08
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I agree that this political spam is inappropriate and irrelevant...really, this is not the place for inane, uneducated, political chain mail. From either end of the political spectrum.
2008/6/17 <LAVO...@aol.com>:
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please remove me
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Julie Totsch
Jun 19, 2008, 8:15:59 AM6/19/08
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Can anyone explain what's going on here? I don't even know how I ended up being a member of this group in the first place and now, I'm receiving these kinds of emails. I'm confused.
And, if I can just say one thing, while I always stand when our National Anthem is played -- even when hearing it on TV -- and I always put my hand over my heart; it seems ridiculous to not vote for someone because he or she doesn't. The next time the anthem is played, take a good hard look around you -- many Americans do NOT put their hands over their hearts.
Thanks,
Julie Totsch
Webmaster
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From: "Nerd 42" <ner...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Fw: John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance
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And, if I can just say one thing, while I always stand when our National Anthem is played -- even when hearing it on TV -- and I always put my hand over my heart; it seems ridiculous to not vote for someone because he or she doesn't. The next time the anthem is played, take a good hard look around you -- many Americans do NOT put their hands over their hearts.
Thanks,
Julie Totsch
Webmaster
www.topofmyhead.info
From: "Nerd 42" <ner...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:10 PM
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joerg.f...@free-penguin.org
Jun 19, 2008, 10:40:49 AM6/19/08
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Julie,
> Can anyone explain what's going on here? I don't even know how I
> ended up being a member of this group in the first place and now,
> I'm receiving these kinds of emails. I'm confused.
You are receiving these e-mails because somebody, who by now is banned from this group, started this thread by sending a mail to his entire contact list.
I urge you not to respond to this kind of off topic posts anymore. That only increases the amount of unpleasant off topic content here.
This used to be a less than active group, discussing a very remote issue of the open source world and I'd like to have it that way again ... since I am the manager of this group, I can have it that way again.
So please do not reply to off topic spam posts. Be assured that I will look after those who spam this group.
> [I felt free to delete the following
> part of your mail for it was off topic]
Last but not least. If you’d like to be taken off the list, contact me directly:
mailto:webm...@free-penguin.org?subject=Unlist%20Me&body=...please
Do not generate more and more off ‘free plush penguin’ content.
Sorry Folks
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Julie Totsch
Jun 20, 2008, 9:11:09 PM6/20/08
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Now, I know how I became a part of this group. Thanks for clearing that up.
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