ARIA Video Training For Review

[Thomas Logan]

Hello I have posted the first version of several sections of my ARIA
Video Training at
http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/ARIA_Video_Project_Home_Page

Currently the training requires the Flash Player. OGV encoded
versions will be available at the completion of this project. The
first video is captioned, the other videos currently have transcripts
posted. The final version of this project will include captioned
versions of all videos.

Thank you for your help reviewing this content. Please send all
feedback to this list.

Cheers,
Thomas Logan

[Eitan Isaacson]

I love the codetalks.org chime at the start!. the demo in video two is
very impressive, shows the awesomeness in a visual manner. Perfect for
video.

[Aaron Leventhal]

Hi Thomas,

I really like video #3. A couple of comments

Do you want to provide a link to further materials, such as the style
guide, the axs library, and the page on codetalks:
http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/Docs/Keyboard_navigable_JS_widgets
I'm not sure how to best provide links in a video, but maybe each video
needs a page of references to go along with it.

Speaking of the codetalks page, do you need to include any more of the
authoring tips described there?
http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/Docs/Keyboard_navigable_JS_widgets#Authoring_tips

When mentioning Inspect, mention Accerciser and whatever the Mac tool
is, and say where users can find them.

Tabindex summary:
tabindex="-1" means also focusable via click

For the slide "Using tabindex on items (10:48 mark)"
Set container tabindex="0" <-- this is false, only the currently active
descendant
should get a tabindex of 0, all other descendants get -1, and the
container doesn't get one.
As the focus moves, the new item gets tabindex="0" and the previous item
gets tabindex="-1"

- Aaron

[Aaron Leventhal]

This video is on setting up the development environment:

Regarding FirefoxPortable, I hadn't heard of that. I'm not sure how many
developers use it. Personally, I just create a profile for Firefox
called "debug", and run
firefox -no-remote -p debug
That allows me to have a separate test version.

Since you mention Inspect in a later video, I would expect the set up
video to describe how to get Inspect, or whatever is relevant for the
given platform. There is also AccProbe, which provides more information
(IAccessible2).

Also, should the user set up a screen reader? There are several free
screen readers for testing. OS X already has VoiceOver, Linux has Orca,
and Windows has NVDA. Proprietary screen readers to have 40 minute
per-reboot demo versions but the license for those doesn't allow for
testing web pages. See
http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/12/30/configuring-screen-readers/ -- it
might be good to include this information or at least link to it.

- Aaron

On 1/6/2009 8:14 PM, Thomas Logan wrote:

[Aaron Leventhal]

Also, I don't know if we want to mention, in the future we expect
Firebug to take over much of the testing that one would use Inspect for.

- Aaron

[Aaron Leventhal]

Thomas, I think the intro video would benefit from describing which
widgets on the page aren't actually HTML widgets. Maybe I missed that,
but it wasn't as clear as it could be.

- Aaron

On 1/6/2009 8:14 PM, Thomas Logan wrote:

[Joshue O Connor]

The videos are excellent Thomas. Well done and I will pass them on.
Aaron is also right about explaining a little more about Inspect 32.
It would be really helpful. Then I guess, where do you draw the line
as you could say the same about using Firebug :-)

However, Inspect 32 is a more obscure tool than Firebug so if you did
a video on it I am sure many people interested in ARIA would find that
really useful.

Cheers

Josh

[Thomas Logan]

Thanks for the feedback I am going to be collating it with the
References page for each video until we get the final product.

I will be making a video for Firebug and a general overview of Inspect/
Accerciser etc to go with Part 1. When I get it posted let me know
what you all think :)

[David]

Hi Thomas,

The videos are a great ARIA learning resource. Thanks! I have just
one comment...

Developers are often prohibited by their employers from using
proprietary or open source
libraries. In addition to the AXS example, consider showing a cross
browser keyboard navigation
example that uses native Javascript.

David

On Jan 7, 7:26 pm, Thomas Logan <tlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for thefeedbackI am going to be collating it with the
> References page for eachvideountil we get the final product.
>
> I will be making avideofor Firebug and a general overview of Inspect/

> Accerciser etc to go with Part 1.  When I get it posted let me know
> what you all think :)
>
> On Jan 7, 5:26 am, Joshue O Connor <joshue.ocon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The videos are excellent Thomas. Well done and I will pass them on.
> > Aaron is also right about explaining a little more about Inspect 32.
> > It would be really helpful. Then I guess, where do you draw the line
> > as you could say the same about using Firebug :-)
>
> > However, Inspect 32 is a more obscure tool than Firebug so if you did

> > avideoon it I am sure many people interested in ARIA would find that

> > really useful.
>
> > Cheers
>
> > Josh
>
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eitan Isaacson <ei...@ascender.com> wrote:
>

> > > I love the codetalks.org chime at the start!. the demo invideotwo is

> > > very impressive, shows the awesomeness in a visual manner. Perfect for
> > >video.
>
> > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Thomas Logan <tlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Hello I have posted the first version of several sections of my ARIA

> > >>VideoTraining at

> > >>http://wiki.codetalks.org/wiki/index.php/ARIA_Video_Project_Home_Page
>
> > >> Currently the training requires the Flash Player.  OGV encoded
> > >> versions will be available at the completion of this project.  The

> > >> firstvideois captioned, the other videos currently have transcripts

> > >> posted.  The final version of this project will include captioned
> > >> versions of all videos.
>
> > >> Thank you for your help reviewing this content.  Please send all

> > >>feedbackto this list.
>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Thomas Logan