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ellrabin

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Apr 6, 2013, 1:18:29 AM4/6/13
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From: ellrabin <ellra...@yahoo.com>;
To: William Fecke <willia...@gmail.com>;
Subject: Re: {fredhack} My odd project for the summer.
Sent: Sat, Apr 6, 2013 5:17:44 AM

Just to warn you, screw drive will be extremely slow. I built a screw drive machine and ended up buying a belt machine (mosaic, also RAMPS 1.4). My current x/y feedrate is 100mm/s, you'd need some incredible rpm to get that with a screw drive, even with a multi start lead screw. Before I had a printer I didn't realize just how long it takes to print anything sizeable.

I would judge print speed to be the most important machine decision, followed by x/y capacity, followed by rigidity, then vertical capacity. Accuracy actually doesn't factor in (in my opinion), as all but the very crudest machines can easily generate parts with better than a thousandth precision, which is under the noise floor of the plastic.

Do make sure to get a fine drive system on the Z, though, as you probably want to take your layer heights down below 0.1mm. That's where I'm at right now and I can probably go lower but for the huge increase in print time. 0.1mm isn't that bad for time as long as you only infill alternate layers. Most printers run around 0.25mm-0.5mm. For fast prints I step up to 0.25mm.

Garrett is also going to be building a printer, he's recently purchased a MendelMax.

I'd advise, when it comes time to select an extruder, to go with 1.75mm over 3mm mostly because Garrett and I have a decent stock of colors already. If you do go with 3mm, I have a small spool of blue you can have from my screw drive machine (which is going to become a CNC dremel).

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From: William Fecke <willia...@gmail.com>;
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Subject: {fredhack} My odd project for the summer.
Sent: Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:26:42 AM

If anyone is interested, over the next couple of months I will be building a Gantry style 3D printer. My family runs a machine shop in Dayton where the gantry is being built. I am ordering and assembling the electronics now. Trying to have a printable area of 12 * 12 * 12. Its based on RepRap, using a 1.4 RAMPS. We are going with direct drive on the screws versus using belts. The Z-axis will be a ram style, driven by a chrome 1/4-20 ball screw. Motors are 400 step NEMA 17 type.

We have been arguing internally concerning the weight of the ram, but we will see. Its odd when the whole family is either engineers or machinists to see how family gatherings play out. 

If anyone wants a copy of the plans let me know, rough draft should be ready in a couple of weeks. This a beta at best. Final plans will be posted on my site by early July. I have to go to Georgia for a portion of May and June.

Will

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Garrett Cooper

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Apr 6, 2013, 9:18:33 AM4/6/13
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12x12x12 machine might have belt backlash and require a creative idler design. Some smaller machines show a little slack and work fine.  I'm not sure about backlash, just a concern.  The ballscrew would eliminate backlash, but I'm pretty sure a print could take a full week.



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