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bober...@hotmail.com

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May 29, 2009, 11:55:26 AM5/29/09
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Well............................... where to start.

Not sure where to put the feedback, like it will help anyway,... looks
like alot come here to read lol!!!

First,... the connection strength is always good, or better in most
places.

PROBLEM,.... this is horribly SLOW, you are lucky to get 50-100 kbps
down, and 20 up. I would do better on my cell phone lol. It is free,
but seriously, if this PUBLIC service is costing TAX dollars,... SHUT
IT DOWN!!!!

Most wanna hop on, check some stuff, and hop off,.... it has already
taken me almost 10 minutes just to load the few pages to get here lol.

Is this NETWORK dividing bandwidth, and only letting a single user
have so much,... IT SHOULD BE!!!!

If the 2 girls next to me are downloading torrentz (movies, games,
music, ect.) Then they could be getting 800 kbps for all I know, or
the whole city is on bitcomet, or utorrent, LMAO!!! Or even streaming
video, but I can't see this because I believe everyone is fighting
everyone for POWER. Which gets nowhere slow lol.

I have ran test after test, from location to location, and I get the
same sloppy results. I have one of the BETTER wireless adapters on the
market, and one of the best lap top's $$$$$ can buy, have tried many
diff. connection settings, and the works trust me. Also have tried all
times of day.

You need to figure out a way to limit each connection to maybe 100-200
down, and 40 to 60 up MAX. If not this public service will be abused,
and a waste of $$$$, and many persons lunch time, or few minutes they
have to check stuff, or what have you.

PING today to test server in Truro N.S. 796ms that's retarted lol.

d/l - 0.22 mb.
u/l - 0.21 mb.

12:54 pm. May 29th. Fri. 2009

If there is another section where I can post feedback, or find
feedback, please steer me in that direction!!!

Chuter.

kerry...@fredericton.ca

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May 29, 2009, 1:51:06 PM5/29/09
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Right now I am in the downtown center and connected to fred-eZone and
I have approx 983kbps down and 1014kbps up, to the E-novations core,
using the speedtest at http://speedtest.e-novations.ca. My speed to
the e-novations core is great however once it leaves the e-Novations
network the ping times eg: to Nova Scotia do increase significantly.
this tells me that the speed on Fred-eZone is great but depending
where you are going on the net, you are subject to any slownesses or
bottlenecks between the Fred-eZone net and whichever destination you
are choosing.
Peer to Peer or Torrent apps are throttled significantly and share a
chunk of bandwidth across the entire Fred-eZone net. Fred-eZone would
seem extremely slow to someone trying to use this type of app.

KJ

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May 29, 2009, 4:05:33 PM5/29/09
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One other note....
The nature of the WiFi Ap's is such, that the speed is dictated by the
slowest client connected. That being said, those with the newest and
greatest in Wireless G (WiFi) enabled PC's and laptops are still
subject to the same speed as the person sitting next to them at a
coffee shop or in the house next door, with an older first gen 2Mbit
WiFi card.

Just something to keep in mind when observing the speed at a
particular AP.

On May 29, 2:51 pm, "Kerry.Jo...@fredericton.ca"
<kerry.jo...@fredericton.ca> wrote:
> Right now I am in the downtown center and connected to fred-eZone and
> I have approx 983kbps down and 1014kbps up, to the E-novations core,
> using the speedtest athttp://speedtest.e-novations.ca. My speed to
> > Chuter.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Chuter

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May 29, 2009, 7:21:33 PM5/29/09
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FIRST of all, thank you for replying. Was cranky trying to check e-
mail when I wrote it, BUT I still stick with what I said.

Anyway,... SECOND,.... QUESTION, does each zone have a dedicated
connection of it's own, or it is all one network???

SECOND, if I can't ping outside N.B. any good, or even the Fred-e-
zone, if this is what u r basically saying,...... what is the good,...
I doubt msn web page servers, or anyones, or anything that anyone
really uses lol, are in Freddy???? Maybe I understood wrong???

THIRD,..... I havn't tried any peer to peer cause like u said, whether
u r getting EXTREME speed, or not,... waste of time, understand
that!!!

FOURTH,.... At home I only have 600 down, 60 up, and every page I
load, anywhere in the world is snap, snap.

FIFTH, I was at the LIBRARY at lunch,........ 80 down max., 20
up,...... I am getting the same, or worse now up by the EXHIBITION
GROUNDS, TIM HORTON'S.

SOOO, there is a limit of sharing that makes sure everyone gets an
equal chunk of the BANDWIDTH then!!!???

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just tested with the LINK you posted.........
DOWNLOAD 850,....... UPLOAD 400,..... that's SWEET. It is the same one
I use to do most speedtests, including the one in TRURO, which pops up
right after results I notice.

BUT, why, why like a baby I cry does this DROP so HARD when u ping
outside the E-ZONE....... is that test just local within the
network???

O.K.... I stop yacking now, and will be very surprised if you have the
time to answer all that, which is no problem, I appreciate the initial
information very much. PLUS I can still check my e-mails, and stuff,
just takes a few is all,... better than NOT AT ALL!!!

THANX again,
Jones.

Coggie

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Jul 16, 2009, 5:46:43 AM7/16/09
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981 up 884 down here today..........

Chuter

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Jul 17, 2009, 4:34:51 PM7/17/09
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Within the network maybe lol, Where r u testing too???? The link
above??? We know the network is strong. We are talking outside the e-
zone. Don't think you understand, I just tested, and 864 kbps d/l and
986 u/l. WITHIN the e-zone network. After you use the link to test,
try Truro N.S, server, or any server outside Fredericton for that
matter, and see what you get, I get .22 mbps down, and .56mbps up.
That's crap!!!

Chuter

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Jul 17, 2009, 4:40:50 PM7/17/09
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Jones, Kerry

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Jul 17, 2009, 4:49:12 PM7/17/09
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Not sure what you are asking! The speeds from within the community network to the Bell or Rogers routers are great...........after traffic leaves us, it is beyond our control. The bottlenecks are outside of the community network.

Kerry Jones Systems Support Specialist
City of Fredericton Information & Communication Technology
Tel: (506) 460-2577  Fax: (506) 460-2228
Kerry...@fredericton.ca

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Coggie

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Jul 17, 2009, 4:53:07 PM7/17/09
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Your speeds are fine to me.........no problems..........i have no idea
what hes on about.....

On Jul 17, 5:49 pm, "Jones, Kerry" <kerry.jo...@fredericton.ca> wrote:
> Not sure what you are asking! The speeds from within the community network to the Bell or Rogers routers are great...........after traffic leaves us, it is beyond our control. The bottlenecks are outside of the community network.
>
> Kerry Jones Systems Support Specialist
> City of Fredericton Information & Communication Technology
> Tel: (506) 460-2577  Fax: (506) 460-2228
> Kerry.Jo...@fredericton.ca
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Chuter

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Jul 17, 2009, 5:27:22 PM7/17/09
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Ugh lame. If you are on your home network, sending something to
another computer on your network at home it is gonna be insainly fast,
just like you testing to your own server within the network.1000 up
and 1000 kbps down we all get. Outside your home network, it would be
your service provider depending upon your speed, internet traffic, and
such. Listin honestly I think your service is a mess. No point in
arguing because everyone who uses it that I know agrees it's absolutly
horrible. Why I come, and post, I'm not sure. Maybe because I am
shocked that it is even used. But some are desperate for any
connection they can get on when internet is needed. This other topic
blaming it on the trees is also so FALSE I dunno what to even say
about that. Thats so not accurate. I can use my Rogers wireless modem
from my house farther than from your tower by the exhibition grounds,
and get a better signal, and it's at ground level. The bottle neck is
where you hit the world wide web. The E-zone is just VERY VERY weak
bandwidth to be shared by so many, plain, and simple. Like I said,
whatever equipment that is powering the network is great. The provider
is horrible. Something is very wrong, and I think you all now by now,
and are beating around the bush for some reason. Bottle necks outside
community network???? When I test my internet to truro I get FULL
service, no BOTTLENECK so to speak. Stop messing around, making
excuses, and get someone to fix this set up. As for the dude on Heart
Island, man you said you had full signal strength, but no internet,
all they did was come reset it, like a home modem is once in awhile
when you still have 5 bars, but no connectivity. It's not trees, or
whatever, it just needed to be reset. Until these guyz decide to
increase the out put feed this service it will be weak. Their is a
FAIL in the connection when it tries to leave the E-zone to the www,
GURANTEED. Or the internet strength plain is very low bandwidth to
begin with. If there was interference between www, and the network, I
would not get my FULL service from my provider when I test mine, I
have 18mnps, and when I test to TRURO I get it. Why so weak, and lame
on ur connection when I test, or when anyone on ur connection on any
com. does a test, FAIL F-. Sorry. I think if more knew about this
topic, or where to post feedback, and had more time on their hands
like me, You would be getting alot more negative feedback. Because
that's all I get when I discuss the e-zone with anyone who uses it,
they say it sucks, plain, and simple, and that's a quote from more
than a hundred now. It's really not that complicated lmao!!! One of
your staff has even admitted it fails when leaving the e-zone network
to ANYWHERE outside Fredericton. So if so, what a waste, and what's
the point of keeping the service going. I have seen so many just turn
off their coms, or get severly pissed just trying to sign into their
hotmail to check e-mails, and they have full signal strength to ur
tower. Like I said, FAIL somewhere between you, and www. I really
don't care. I got so frutrated using it, and trying everywhere I dont
use it at all anymore, or even try. I signed on it long enough to see
if maybe it was fixed, and same speeds, about 20-30 bps down, and
30-40 up. slower than dial up. Inside e-zone, 1000 down, 1000 up. I
have been all over the city, and the speeds are about the same
everywhere, but signalis always good.





ul 17, 5:49 pm, "Jones, Kerry" <kerry.jo...@fredericton.ca> wrote:
> Not sure what you are asking! The speeds from within the community network to the Bell or Rogers routers are great...........after traffic leaves us, it is beyond our control. The bottlenecks are outside of the community network.
>
> Kerry Jones Systems Support Specialist
> City of Fredericton Information & Communication Technology
> Tel: (506) 460-2577  Fax: (506) 460-2228
> Kerry.Jo...@fredericton.ca
> ________________________________
>
> This electronic mail, including any attachments, is confidential and is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may be privileged.  Any unauthorized distribution, copying, disclosure or review is prohibited.  Neither communication over the Internet nor disclosure to anyone other than the intended recipient constitutes waiver of privilege.  If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender and then delete this communication and any attachments from your computer system and records without saving or forwarding it. Thank you.

Neil Robinson

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Jul 17, 2009, 5:30:41 PM7/17/09
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I am using the INTERNET, i am not on my home network sending something to another computer on my home network.....

I am using Fred e zone to access the internet......sites  all over the world......and the speeds......whilst not blazing fast   are   very good indeed.....

PatrickHickey

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Jul 17, 2009, 5:55:21 PM7/17/09
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while you say that trees are not a factor. they very much are. some
access points are supplied by fiber. those points have been very fast
and reliable points. the points we are not able to set up with fiber
are back hauled over another wireless connection. it is these backhaul
points that are very highly effected by the trees and the line of
sight the link has. As im sure you are well aware, the 2.4Ghz
frequency is the resonate frequency of water...so because trees and
leaves and foliage is mostly water... the signal strength of our or
any wireless 2.4Ghz device is lost. This creates such a problem, that
depending on what sort of tree (a hard wood tree in comparison to a
wet sappier tree) can have very different effects on the signal
strength. Also! the last couple of months have been very wet. The rain
dampens the signal exactly the same as the trees do. SO! yes, you will
have a very good signal strength but no internet or a very low
connection, which is what we have been having many problems with.
while most any hotspot we have in a building isnt effected by this,
the outdoor spots are. We are in the middle of surveying each and
every spot and making sure they are fully functional. so if you are
having problems with specific spots, please tell us so we can make it
better.

P

Jones, Kerry

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Jul 17, 2009, 8:58:20 PM7/17/09
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Did you know that if someone is connected to the same AP as you but with an old slower WIFI card, that your speed is then reduced to that of the old card.

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Neil Robinson

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Jul 17, 2009, 9:48:15 PM7/17/09
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I know this, Fred e zone is fine for me.....its the other guy thats saying its crap    not me........
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