[M] [Logic] Coins on the round table

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SURI

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Jul 22, 2011, 10:15:52 AM7/22/11
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Now you need to play a game with me..

Game goes like this..
We have a round table and a huge set of round coins (assume those are carrom board coins). One of us start the game by placing a coin on the table and other one follows him by putting another coin on the table.. alternatively they put the coins until they reach a position where they can't put any more coins without overlap.
The first one who fails to put a coin will loose the game..

Can anyone comeup with a best strategy to play/win this game?

ashok Mudithanapalli

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Jul 25, 2011, 2:11:27 AM7/25/11
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I know the answer.
Got it from Suresh.

Waiting for others to solve.

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Shyam Prakash Velupula

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Jul 25, 2011, 2:46:36 AM7/25/11
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Suresh,

Can you define what overlap means?

-Shyam


On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:45 PM, SURI <koorel...@gmail.com> wrote:



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SURI

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Jul 25, 2011, 3:07:36 AM7/25/11
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  • They can't share the space.
  • You can't put a coin on top of another coin and you cant use the support of other coins.
  • And all coins needs to be placed horizontally like we place the coins on carrom board but they need not be adjacent.
  • Game continues as long as we have a space to put a coin completely on the table.
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Shyam Prakash Velupula

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Jul 25, 2011, 6:11:56 AM7/25/11
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Assuming every one is going to use the same strategy place the coin at a place that maximizes the chances of winning (Min-Max funda :-) )

Here it goes, it doesn't make sense to me, but just a try

- As long as there is space place the coin randomly at biggest open space (assuming i lands are formed due to people putting coins at random places)
- The whole game boils down to one final iland
- If the available space seems to suffice for one round, prefer putting the coin such that it's placing wastes max possible space
- Else put the coin adjacent to an existing coin (as in carom board) to improve a chance of getting to play the next round


Thanks
Shyam Velupula

SURI

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Jul 30, 2011, 4:59:39 AM7/30/11
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Good approach Shyam,

But it does not give any information about who is going to win. If I use your strategy still the chances of loosing the game is not very less.

I am expecting an approach with which always selects one winner... at least more than 90% of the cases.. or if you come up with any deterministic strategy then it will be great..

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Rajesh Inakota

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Jul 30, 2011, 11:10:05 PM7/30/11
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 Big clue : Here we need to use the logic of symmetry.
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Rajesh.I

Shyam Prakash Velupula

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Aug 1, 2011, 6:14:10 AM8/1/11
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Rajesh,

I didn't read the post clearly, i was assuming that this is a N player game.
Symmetry would work only for 2 player game.

- Shyam Velupula

SURI

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Aug 1, 2011, 9:40:09 AM8/1/11
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Shyam, this game is between two players only..

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