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Peggy A. Rowe-Snyder

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Jul 2, 2012, 4:06:40 PM7/2/12
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How does one get hold of Mr. Musgrove??
 
I have tried to email him and the email bounced back.
 
 
Mr. Musgrave,
 
I am writing because I just read your blog about the Black Hands.  I do not know if this applies to my family or not.  I'll tell you what I do know. 
 
My great grandmother, Delphia (aka Dolly) VanZandt York Stewart nee Jones was born to Jesse Franklin and Susan Ann Aiken Jones around 1874.  Her parents both died when she was kind of young and she was sent to the VanZandt family for care/support.  Basically she became worker for their household. 
 
I've never found proof of this.  But then I live in Oregon and am still raising kids, and it will be a while before I make it to illinois to do research.  But, my gr. grandmother supposedly killed a couple men.  One of the men was a truck driver.  This incident probably isn't related to the Black Hands, as the man was putting the make on my grandmother, Hazel Lorine VanZandt as she did her job as a waitress.  My gr grandmother was the cook, and she warned the man off before she shot him to death.  He should have listened is my guess. LOL
 
The other shooting (?) came about from a feud with an Italian Family (so I have been told).  People died on both sides of the feud.  People in my family are still SO afraid of rekindling the feud that they will not help me research my great grandmother and her side of the family. Which I think is really dumb, and it also really hurts.  I want to know her better.  I could tell you a name of a cousin who knows more about it, but he won't talk to me about it.  He not only told me to leave great grandma lie, but he called my uncle to get my uncle to pressure me to leave everything alone.  I highly doubt he'd talk to you about it.
 
It is because of this I am very interested in your writings.  Hoping to find a clue.
If you ever run into the surnames of Jones, Aikens, VanZandt, York in your research I am hoping you will let me know.  hehe! A stranger asking for a favor.  I'll buy any book that you have that might apply to my family history of course!!! 
 
Thanks so much for your time, Peggy A. Rowe-Snyder
 
daughter of Patricia L. Coop -- daughter of Hazel Lorine VanZandt -- daughter of Delphia Jones. 
 
Peggy Ann Rowe-Snyder pegr...@gmail.com
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Genealogy:
http://www.pegrowe.com
"Legitimi non carborundum"
     "Joie de Vivre"
    "Je Maintiendra"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SURNAMES: Aiken Arbuckle Bean  Brown Bumpus/Bumpas Clapp/Klapp Coop Cromwell Eskkelson Esheston Elsselson Hall Heald Hemenway Hinkley Gully Hull Jones McClaskey Munden Murphy  Nelson/Neilson Palmer Parsons Pedigo Rowe Shatto Somerby Stone Stuart Vanatta / Van Etten VanZandt Williams York
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Kaye McClintock

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Jul 2, 2012, 8:47:18 PM7/2/12
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Peggy, did you use this email address for Jon Musgrave?  jo...@midamer.net      Kaye

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How does one get hold of Mr. Musgrove??
 
I have tried to email him and the email bounced back.
 
 
Mr. Musgrave,
 
I am writing because I just read your blog about the Black Hands.  I do not know if this applies to my family or not.  I'll tell you what I do know. 
 
My great grandmother, Delphia (aka Dolly) VanZandt York Stewart nee Jones was born to Jesse Franklin and Susan Ann Aiken Jones around 1874.  Her parents both died when she was kind of young and she was sent to the VanZandt family for care/support.  Basically she became worker for their household. 
 
I've never found proof of this.  But then I live in Oregon and am still raising kids, and it will be a while before I make it to illinois to do research.  But, my gr. grandmother supposedly killed a couple men.  One of the men was a truck driver.  This incident probably isn't related to the Black Hands, as the man was putting the make on my grandmother, Hazel Lorine VanZandt as she did her job as a waitress.  My gr grandmother was the cook, and she warned the man off before she shot him to death.  He should have listened is my guess. LOL
 
The other shooting (?) came about from a feud with an Italian Family (so I have been told).  People died on both sides of the feud.  People in my family are still SO afraid of rekindling the feud that they will not help me research my great grandmother and her side of the family. Which I think is really dumb, and it also really hurts.  I want to know her better.  I could tell you a name of a cousin who knows more about it, but he won't talk to me about it.  He not only told me to leave great grandma lie, but he called my uncle to get my uncle to pressure me to leave everything alone.  I highly doubt he'd talk to you about it.
 
It is because of this I am very interested in your writings.  Hoping to find a clue.
If you ever run into the surnames of Jones, Aikens, VanZandt, York in your research I am hoping you will let me know.  hehe! A stranger asking for a favor.  I'll buy any book that you have that might apply to my family history of course!!! 
 
Thanks so much for your time, Peggy A. Rowe-Snyder
 
daughter of Patricia L. Coop -- daughter of Hazel Lorine VanZandt -- daughter of Delphia Jones. 
 
Peggy Ann Rowe-Snyder pegr...@gmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Genealogy:

"Legitimi non carborundum"
     "Joie de Vivre"
    "Je Maintiendra"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SURNAMES: Aiken Arbuckle Bean  Brown Bumpus/Bumpas Clapp/Klapp Coop Cromwell Eskkelson Esheston Elsselson Hall Heald Hemenway Hinkley Gully Hull Jones McClaskey Munden Murphy  Nelson/Neilson Palmer Parsons Pedigo Rowe Shatto Somerby Stone Stuart Vanatta / Van Etten VanZandt Williams York
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Dianna

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Jul 2, 2012, 9:31:33 PM7/2/12
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Peggy,

You must have ESP!!  I was talking with Susan Dorris and been trying to find Jon's email to write him!  Boy,
Talk about great timing!

Thank both of you, Peggy for asking and Kaye for sending it!

Smiles!

Dian Williams
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Williams Brashear
Cook Cravens Presley
& more


On 7/2/2012 7:47 PM, Kaye McClintock wrote:
Peggy, did you use this email address for Jon Musgrave?  jo...@midamer.net
     Kaye
 

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Kaye McClintock

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Jul 2, 2012, 9:37:23 PM7/2/12
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If you are wanting one of Jon's books, you can go here, Peggy.   http://www.illinoishistory.com/books/

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How does one get hold of Mr. Musgrove??
 
I have tried to email him and the email bounced back.
 
 
Mr. Musgrave,
 
I am writing because I just read your blog about the Black Hands.  I do not know if this applies to my family or not.  I'll tell you what I do know. 
 
My great grandmother, Delphia (aka Dolly) VanZandt York Stewart nee Jones was born to Jesse Franklin and Susan Ann Aiken Jones around 1874.  Her parents both died when she was kind of young and she was sent to the VanZandt family for care/support.  Basically she became worker for their household. 
 
I've never found proof of this.  But then I live in Oregon and am still raising kids, and it will be a while before I make it to illinois to do research.  But, my gr. grandmother supposedly killed a couple men.  One of the men was a truck driver.  This incident probably isn't related to the Black Hands, as the man was putting the make on my grandmother, Hazel Lorine VanZandt as she did her job as a waitress.  My gr grandmother was the cook, and she warned the man off before she shot him to death.  He should have listened is my guess. LOL
 
The other shooting (?) came about from a feud with an Italian Family (so I have been told).  People died on both sides of the feud.  People in my family are still SO afraid of rekindling the feud that they will not help me research my great grandmother and her side of the family. Which I think is really dumb, and it also really hurts.  I want to know her better.  I could tell you a name of a cousin who knows more about it, but he won't talk to me about it.  He not only told me to leave great grandma lie, but he called my uncle to get my uncle to pressure me to leave everything alone.  I highly doubt he'd talk to you about it.
 
It is because of this I am very interested in your writings.  Hoping to find a clue.
If you ever run into the surnames of Jones, Aikens, VanZandt, York in your research I am hoping you will let me know.  hehe! A stranger asking for a favor.  I'll buy any book that you have that might apply to my family history of course!!! 
 
Thanks so much for your time, Peggy A. Rowe-Snyder
 
daughter of Patricia L. Coop -- daughter of Hazel Lorine VanZandt -- daughter of Delphia Jones. 
 
Peggy Ann Rowe-Snyder pegr...@gmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Genealogy:

"Legitimi non carborundum"
     "Joie de Vivre"
    "Je Maintiendra"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SURNAMES: Aiken Arbuckle Bean  Brown Bumpus/Bumpas Clapp/Klapp Coop Cromwell Eskkelson Esheston Elsselson Hall Heald Hemenway Hinkley Gully Hull Jones McClaskey Munden Murphy  Nelson/Neilson Palmer Parsons Pedigo Rowe Shatto Somerby Stone Stuart Vanatta / Van Etten VanZandt Williams York
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Dianna

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Jul 2, 2012, 9:41:37 PM7/2/12
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Kaye,

Do you hear from Jon?  How is he and where is he?  I met him years ago and wondered what he is doing and where

BTW, I want to buy his books... now you have ESP!

Thanks!

Dianna


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Kaye McClintock

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Jul 2, 2012, 9:54:26 PM7/2/12
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 No, I don't hear from him. I bought his book The Bloody Vendetta and it has website of IllinoisHistory.com in it and I went there and found his email address. I met him at Benton Civic Center last Nov 26, 2011. He looked good to me. That's all I know about him, except there is another email address for him and a telephone number on this website. jon.mu...@mchsi.com or by phone at 618-993-9796   Kaye

Kaye McClintock

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Jul 2, 2012, 11:05:08 PM7/2/12
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:) happyYour welcome! :) happy

Sheldon Jones

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Jul 4, 2012, 5:46:36 PM7/4/12
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Peggy,

   I have Delphia (fully Philadelphia?) Ann “Dolly” JONES as being b. 16 May 1888 d. 13 Mar 1974 – you have her obit that Debbie V posted to the rootsweb list in 2007?

 

-SRJ

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