Welcome to All

[malaroth]

This is for the core group that helps Franco maintain and enhance the kernel. I'll (malaroth) will transfer ownership to Franco but the email address is for everyone to access.

 

Welcome!

 

If you're here, you ARE elite franco.Kernel tuners! ;)

What's discussed stays here until implementation in the kernel. It's way easier to collaborate and fine tune here than xda, PM or email. So enjoy!

 

Remember: The first rule of Franco Club is you do not talk about Franco Club. :P

 

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If we could all go by "first name (xda nickname)" by editing our display name under Membership and email settings, that'd be great for working together.

 

-Chris (osm0sis); mod edit sucka :D

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

Does Francisco actually know about this cult following yet?

[franciscofranco1990]

Don't give me ownership, I'm just a follower here ;)

[franciscofranco1990]

Yes, I suggested malaroth to create this. Its much better than plain mailing or PM's.

[malaroth]

LOL Franco asked me to set it up. Fine I'll keep ownership but everyone has Max permissions. Because I assume that the purpose is to collaborate without xda forums

[malaroth]

Waiting on an email from Joaquinf the gingerbread man and osm0sis

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

By "plain mail" do you mean the Post Office letters?  Cuz, I definitely agree that something like this is better for development than mailing stuff back and forth.

That said; Hey Franco!  Long time, no see!  lol.

[franciscofranco1990]

Exactly. I grow tired of PM's in XDA, and emailing is just painful and harder to track.

malaroth can now set us up with the his IO tunnings and we can follow his developments and give our own feedback until we are ready to let every noob know about our optimal values.

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

Oh, and just so you know, we had talked back in the day about whether or not I was gonna get a Nexus 7 or 10.  Well, I finally decided, and I bought a Chromebook.  lol.  Totally takes the fun out of Android development!  :(  But it's pretty nice.  I am really happy with it (seeing as I'm sitting here typing all this on it).  :)

[franciscofranco1990]

Hey mister. You've been hiding since you move jobs :)

By the way invite minooch as well please! min...@gmail.com

I want that fucker to participate.

[franciscofranco1990]

Good choice! Nexus 10 is also great, I love it! My iPad is sleeping since then.

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

Cool beans.  But are we gonna keep going by XDA handles or actually call each other by name like friends.  :)  Obviously, I know Francisco and Chris (osm0sis), and I've PMed with Joaquin a few times, but I never got malaroth or GBman's names.

[malaroth]

LOL the pm that bugged you so much was to not even let the noobs know tweaking was happening. With that said Franco... I know quadrant is flimsy. But I focused solely on the IO score. Multiple runs with fifo batch at 0 resulted in constant scores of 2k. Bumping it to 4 increased it to almost 2300 consistently. Do you have anything else to test IO?

[franciscofranco1990]

I call by real life names as much as I can!

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

haha,  I know, I know!  I'm sorry.  I kinda dropped my duties in the thread.  :(  I used to sit behind a desk and get paid to surf XDA all day....I mean, work on stuff...  But now my job has me physically moving stuff and being on the go most of the day.  Boo...  But it's fun, and it makes the days go by a lot faster.  :)

Yeah, I'm still tempted to get a N10, especially with the refreshed quadcore coming out next week (maybe, hopefully).  :)  And I can almost guarantee you that I'll get the Nexus 5 as soon as it comes out in May/June!

[franciscofranco1990]

Yes NO user interaction until its ready. I've learned that for over 2 years of development on Android. Users are mostly dumb and they don't care about anything else besides the end gain. We are here for the path between discovering, learning what all options do, test the shit out of it, discuss it, and then we let them know. Thats how this rolls :)

That said, you can also use Benchmark & Tuning app. Its made by my best real life friend and the IO is pretty accurate. I know because we worked on the tests together and I know the code he wrote!

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

Whoa, dude, you're getting into the technically stuff this early?!  I thought we were gonna go around the circle and play some icebreaker games or something.  Gotta loosen the crowd up a little!

[franciscofranco1990]

It won't come in May or June. It comes in November. June comes Key Lime Pie, I just got the 100% confirmation today.

[franciscofranco1990]

No time to play around ihihihih.

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

Christian Göllner is your best friend in real life?  Why wasn't he a part of our Tune-Squad?  

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YOU!!!!!!!!  AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WHY NOT?!?!?!?!?!  What's coming at the IO, hardware wise?!?!?!?  Are we getting any new Nexi?!  :( :( 

[franciscofranco1990]

Yes.

Because he doesn't care much about customizations, he just wants his phone by default. I just sent him a free GN (we had a few extra at the company) and now he's enjoying his first Nexus device.

[franciscofranco1990]

I know nothing about whats coming in the IO, but I'm sure a new revision of the Nexus 7 will come plus sneak peak of 5.0.

[Philip (Yellowdie)]

Well....  That just makes me sad.  All those freakin' Nexus 5 and 7.7 rumors can go shove it....  *sigh*

Now I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep.

Except without the crying.  Just sleeping.  Because I'm super tired.  Good night, y'all!

[malaroth]

That email for min isn't working. Everyone has permission to invite

[malaroth]

Night man. Good having you here

[malaroth]

OK... time for a couple beers and some video games. I'll still get an email if ya need me.

[steve.adams.x10]

Hi all Gingerbread Man here, call me Steve if you like! First thanks for the group and thanks for concidering me worthy of inviting me! I look forwards to getting to know you all more on here and will spend time when I can, I don't have an office job I'm a security officer and spend a lot of time walking about lol Thanks again!

[malaroth]

Welcome Steve, welcome Chris. (When he joins) I think everyone is still asleep but I'm gonna start a new thread with the init.d commands Franco added in addition to the changes to deadline. This is where we'll do our magic to keep noobs from breaking stuff

[Joaquín]

Hi guys!

Thanks for inviting me to join. Nice to see you guys in this group to share experiences and help francisco to enhace his kernel development without the "halpz please" "dis no go" "bootzloopz halp" "is this kernel abandoned?" "i know this probably been asked but ..." "i undervolted -250 set on boot and now bootloop, halp!" .... ok you got the idea :p.

Count me in :)

[malaroth]

LOL you got that one down perfectly!

[steve.adams.x10]

So this page is like the off topic forums I guess? :D

[chris.renshaw]

Sup fellas! osm0sis reporting for duty! Most of you knew my name was Chris already. Good to have this forum on the go for all our fun! Thanks Francisco and good work Zach!

I just got back from a ski trip with the girlfriend, that's what took me so long. I'm pretty busy lately in my final semester of my science degree and working 12h shifts in the hospital, but I'll try to contribute and test when I can. :)

[franciscofranco1990]

Hey noobs. Lets get to work! :)

[malaroth]

Glad to have ya aboard! And yes this Is offtopic forum. Others will be created for specific tunable projects. Post your findings, changes. I grabbed that benchmark and tuner app pro version too for io testing

[Joaquín]

kewl :p

Should we take it to differents topics according to the device? or mix all the things! ?

[malaroth]

Most of the scheduler tunables will be the same on all devices minus a few variables so I think we should be OK

[Chris]

So are we restraining this to tunable tweaking only or is this forum open to other f.K/f.Ku ideas/to-dos?

[Zach (malaroth)]

oh no, this is for all enhancement to the kernel, just if its a totally new topic start a new thread, just organization

[Chris]

Perfect! I was thinking this would be a great way to do issue collection as well, since Francisco can't be omnipresent in his threads. Different thread for each device and then we can post the currently reported issues people are seeing.

[Steve (Gingerbread Man)]

If any one finds an app for Google groups that works do share as its pretty bad using browser on my tab / phone

[Joaquín (joaquinf)]

I've been looking for it too. Definitely is much better on the phone than on the tablet. Mobile view make thinks a Lil easier though an app would be great.

I haven't found any yet.

[Joaquín (joaquinf)]

Hi francisco just wanted to say happy birthday. I hope you enjoy your day. Thanks for being such a great guy and for your hard work with all your projects. Have a good time buddy.

[Steve (Gingerbread Man)]

Birthday wishes from me also, have a great day. Someone posted in gnex thread about a job at Intel as an android kernel developer I don't know if you saw? I sound like my dad talking about jobs on birthdays lol have a good un anyway!

[franciscofranco1990]

Hey guys, thanks for the happy birthday wishes :)

[minooch]

yeah,

no more people for now

[Chris (osm0sis)]

Too much riff raff in here already. ;)

[Steve (Gingerbread Man)]

Sorry if not added much recently, its not lack of interest its more lack of free time been putting in crazy hours at my work. I haven't even had a great deal of time to post on xda but been trying to keep up to date and thanking helpful posts as I can.

[Chris (osm0sis)]

I'd like to suggest a new M.O. for the grouper and tuna testing/issues threads and the f.Ku suggestion/bug thread as well: We condense all issues for each into 2 posts, one for bug reports, one for suggestions. We date the bug reports with the most recent at the top, include forum links to corresponding xda posts for each report (if they exist) and who reported should also be thrown in, then we delete all other posts, and remove new ones once the reports are added. Basically I'm suggesting we turn this bitch into a bug tracker. :)

 

That way Francisco can better keep up with what's happening on the GN and N7 without needing to be omnipresent on xda, and he also doesn't need to wade through posts here to see what's current; he can tell at a glance.

[Zach (malaroth)]

Awesome deal! Let's get on it while we wait for Paul's info tonight. Lemme know what you need from me

[Chris (osm0sis)]

Awesome! Thanks for the assist!

 

Check out what I did with the new grouper thread. If you could grab the blurbs/formatting and add the issues from the old tuna thread to the new tuna thread I just created I'd be extremely grateful. grouper's done, so if you could just do tuna then I'll do f.Ku when I have a bit more time later in the week or next week sometime at the latest.

 

I've already pared down the old tuna thread to just the reports/suggestions so hopefully that's pretty straight forward; the only time consuming bit is finding the xda links so I can do that part too if you like.

 

Edit: Nevermind bro, I got it. :)

[Chris (osm0sis)]

There, all done. :D

 

Edit: I also recreated the Finalized Numbers thread as a "Franco's Dev Team" post so that we'll feel more comfortable editing it and keeping it up to date as a group.

 

Couple weird housekeeping things having to do with Google Groups bugs that are worth noting:

- Don't mark a thread completed in a post and then delete that post or the thread will be stuck completed.

- If you delete the first post of a thread you can never rename it again.

 

Oh and Stu, I finally got around to making you a group Manager; didn't realize that hadn't been done yet. ;)

[Chris (osm0sis)]

Since this group has pretty much served it's purpose (save for needing one other member to verify the vm Tweaks Paul and I worked out, so we can finalize them), I've gone ahead and published this group to the Groups directory, and modified the group permissions to allow 'Anyone' to view the topics. That way it's open for reading, and Google can index them and preserve it all for posterity and whatever help the wealth of information here may serve others in their searching.

 

Membership remains invite only (so no new members/posts), and only members can view other member info (email, etc.). If there's anything you want to remove then please go ahead and edit. Thanks for everything guys! It's been a fun ride! :)