Vincent
N'oublie pas le _=0 comme sp�cifi� dans le texte.
_=0, A=1,B=2, ..., Z=26
Voici donc la d�composition de Pi en base 27 (les 1000 premi�res comme
demand�).
> evalf(log10(27^1000));
1431.363764
> Digits:=2000;
Digits := 2000
> a:=floor(Pi*27^1000);
a := 72596223944413036474403637703715483476776270333684473682754\
8425759299533604520699701585376120881428896778459470700427\
6928734269635216408565314683942231673409054465449619495375\
3699682742327158901557065271669804855972077193152982854916\
0152804886380913571486005325881995705055425003705883818630\
5179136274100754547556243809232757887941413971172919555303\
9415224882711619110736060169742428363833128656642271615588\
5872192100495357342377181971823426194415913317947133039599\
6746831212112176947256927042937730357646815075500838818867\
9341858949827502432297343187612309482485155876992627743429\
8056118243146070571489609177046674014342667297547246303212\
4457822730273169236268863793412715224756167815440237138651\
9684759524499470182821421124109414462494093060402914647828\
5667090702020994585148693042932701379311031099475306788276\
0504131772791353404512571662873497136468273661703708596368\
7258322322622931648753979777093854540460202178072598504332\
4329201326970402220349211943074475853249649124535120501392\
9849407893793604968785890848484300747605907328832966762485\
0394397512999655765025865798077982660419707751018656508521\
2119921110439616740698874479959214849873555926912151210465\
9883990749930338356506728756631962699283350024494134314140\
7572761746268607543398135906827219004199110672566124169633\
6734396821877726264908909421743132139141813755196279282783\
1307257396700654963419231899942311016894986167999914703233\
523540448476695661775596809669644326696
> convert(a,base,27);
[26, 23, 7, 25, 15, 21, 17, 20, 20, 20, 14, 5, 5, 22, 8, 11, 17, 14,
8, 25, 12, 2, 2, 25, 11, 18, 13, 17, 23, 21, 24, 2, 26, 5, 5,
12, 9, 0, 9, 18, 14, 12, 20, 16, 25, 9, 18, 4, 4, 7, 20, 26,
12, 26, 21, 15, 12, 14, 9, 3, 9, 8, 0, 6, 11, 10, 13, 20, 13,
18, 9, 17, 17, 20, 17, 19, 23, 0, 25, 23, 5, 8, 17, 23, 9, 23,
20, 2, 15, 9, 9, 5, 15, 5, 22, 7, 21, 22, 10, 20, 18, 18, 0,
17, 15, 8, 2, 4, 2, 15, 26, 1, 0, 13, 23, 14, 4, 11, 21, 0,
15, 22, 21, 20, 11, 24, 12, 3, 21, 12, 25, 5, 5, 4, 8, 20, 16,
6, 11, 23, 10, 21, 11, 13, 2, 26, 18, 8, 17, 8, 3, 6, 5, 14,
9, 25, 6, 22, 6, 9, 12, 0, 6, 13, 15, 10, 3, 16, 13, 26, 23,
24, 8, 21, 6, 7, 2, 13, 6, 2, 1, 12, 9, 9, 8, 7, 23, 16, 6,
13, 25, 13, 19, 6, 26, 16, 17, 10, 11, 9, 0, 23, 23, 18, 2,
12, 21, 24, 8, 11, 3, 20, 11, 9, 7, 18, 8, 14, 1, 13, 20, 26,
22, 15, 15, 11, 20, 16, 7, 15, 4, 14, 22, 14, 16, 24, 26, 19,
26, 24, 6, 24, 22, 8, 25, 26, 1, 10, 3, 8, 11, 5, 10, 18, 17,
8, 5, 5, 3, 20, 13, 17, 9, 19, 22, 13, 19, 12, 19, 20, 18, 11,
26, 17, 3, 13, 12, 20, 17, 16, 1, 8, 5, 20, 3, 2, 16, 7, 7,
18, 2, 24, 6, 3, 12, 8, 26, 0, 9, 26, 17, 0, 0, 20, 15, 0, 4,
25, 13, 18, 20, 0, 26, 25, 9, 7, 7, 1, 10, 26, 8, 17, 8, 18,
20, 10, 1, 6, 5, 16, 11, 7, 9, 20, 14, 20, 13, 26, 22, 2, 3,
22, 0, 24, 11, 11, 24, 16, 16, 2, 19, 10, 4, 18, 14, 8, 1, 1,
20, 2, 3, 16, 3, 5, 14, 7, 2, 26, 17, 14, 17, 8, 3, 26, 1, 18,
20, 1, 16, 9, 12, 21, 18, 19, 13, 13, 10, 6, 3, 1, 2, 0, 20,
23, 23, 2, 26, 8, 18, 9, 1, 18, 23, 20, 0, 14, 21, 10, 21, 26,
18, 16, 5, 12, 6, 14, 4, 3, 20, 26, 2, 16, 3, 3, 16, 7, 7, 16,
17, 26, 19, 13, 5, 26, 7, 17, 26, 15, 26, 2, 25, 0, 5, 26, 17,
20, 20, 15, 20, 3, 12, 16, 25, 9, 20, 16, 1, 26, 25, 24, 18,
5, 14, 12, 22, 2, 6, 3, 6, 26, 2, 6, 3, 21, 11, 15, 25, 14,
13, 5, 8, 10, 4, 6, 22, 24, 26, 6, 1, 7, 14, 6, 3, 12, 4, 1,
22, 7, 20, 16, 8, 14, 9, 21, 20, 10, 21, 18, 24, 20, 24, 24,
5, 4, 5, 1, 8, 24, 23, 16, 0, 8, 14, 3, 14, 3, 15, 19, 13, 11,
26, 3, 26, 20, 21, 24, 15, 9, 6, 6, 0, 13, 8, 0, 14, 19, 6,
11, 24, 15, 9, 9, 1, 19, 9, 7, 8, 4, 3, 7, 2, 20, 9, 13, 24,
2, 16, 5, 25, 8, 26, 14, 2, 17, 5, 9, 15, 25, 14, 15, 15, 16,
16, 0, 19, 12, 18, 3, 23, 24, 23, 21, 23, 21, 5, 5, 21, 6, 24,
18, 26, 26, 11, 7, 17, 11, 2, 17, 4, 0, 7, 4, 7, 24, 18, 24,
16, 21, 9, 23, 4, 11, 3, 15, 19, 22, 8, 8, 8, 11, 19, 14, 17,
20, 20, 12, 20, 22, 22, 15, 6, 7, 6, 8, 13, 4, 25, 6, 15, 22,
13, 15, 24, 0, 2, 1, 25, 13, 7, 22, 1, 26, 8, 10, 15, 24, 7,
22, 12, 16, 12, 17, 17, 7, 12, 0, 23, 4, 18, 9, 15, 0, 11, 22,
1, 19, 22, 24, 15, 13, 13, 9, 18, 13, 2, 20, 7, 24, 22, 21, 7,
24, 3, 8, 19, 7, 22, 3, 13, 14, 23, 15, 20, 1, 25, 2, 9, 22,
13, 0, 25, 2, 7, 4, 0, 3, 17, 26, 18, 19, 1, 26, 17, 3, 14,
23, 7, 11, 3, 22, 23, 3, 26, 20, 26, 4, 13, 7, 19, 15, 4, 6,
18, 12, 4, 8, 25, 0, 12, 22, 9, 19, 18, 14, 23, 21, 25, 17,
12, 20, 18, 23, 25, 16, 3, 22, 20, 23, 15, 20, 14, 3, 2, 18,
3, 0, 3, 0, 17, 9, 20, 24, 20, 18, 9, 10, 11, 3, 0, 11, 16,
17, 19, 10, 4, 7, 24, 7, 21, 26, 6, 0, 18, 6, 23, 13, 6, 0,
14, 8, 20, 1, 4, 17, 23, 11, 26, 18, 10, 23, 17, 8, 13, 25,
22, 3, 19, 17, 13, 17, 19, 0, 17, 13, 10, 18, 10, 13, 0, 24,
15, 14, 17, 12, 17, 21, 22, 12, 20, 8, 18, 17, 10, 9, 5, 3, 6,
6, 15, 18, 23, 20, 11, 22, 1, 19, 23, 14, 6, 0, 21, 3, 16, 13,
7, 6, 26, 11, 4, 4, 21, 21, 1, 4, 16, 20, 25, 9, 12, 23, 23,
12, 17, 26, 22, 16, 17, 14, 2, 22, 21, 17, 12, 10, 19, 23, 1,
8, 14, 0, 21, 14, 19, 18, 16, 15, 26, 20, 19, 20, 8, 16, 6, 4,
8, 11, 23, 26, 14, 21, 17, 8, 12, 24, 7, 26, 0, 1, 3, 19, 10,
16, 12, 10, 9, 19, 8, 25, 2, 15, 13, 6, 3, 8, 10, 0, 21, 15,
24, 18, 4, 16, 21, 13, 5, 5, 23, 8, 26, 10, 9, 9, 16, 18, 16,
23, 19, 13, 24, 26, 25, 12, 13, 2, 22, 3, 26, 5, 22, 3, 3]
>
Attention l'�valuation est faite � rebours, donc le dvp est
3 3 22 5 26 3 22 2 13 12 25 26 24 13 19 23 ...
Ce qui donne en passant aux lettres :
C,CVEZCVBMLYZXMSW...
Attention, la r�f�rence donn�e sur le site semble fausse apr�s la
11eme "d�cimale".
Voil�, il te reste plus qu'� convertir cela en lettres.
--
zwim.
Rien n'est impossible que la mesure de la volont� humaine...
Bonjour,
Pour les adeptes d'un logiciel bien connu, voici une solution assez
concise :
In[1]:= RealDigits[N[Pi, 2000], 27] /. Thread[Range[0, 26] ->
Prepend[CharacterRange["A", "Z"], "0"]] // StringJoin
Out[1]= "CCVEZCVBMLYZXMSWPRPIIJZHWEEMUPDRXOU0JHCFMOBYHSIJLPJSCA0ZGXLHQ
\
UNZWKHDFPHTSTZOPRSNU0NHAWSJLQUVBNQPVZQLWWLIYTPDAUUDDKZFGMPCU0FNWSAVKTW
\
ROFFCEIJQRHTLVUQLQNOX0MJRJMQ0SQMQSCVYMHQWJRZKWQDATHN0FMWFR0FZUGXGDJSQP
\
K0CKJIRTXTIQ0C0CRBCNTOWTVCPYWRTLQYUWNRSIVL0YHDLRFDOSGMDZTZCWVCKGWNCQZA
\
SRZQC0DGBY0MVIBYATOWNMCVGSHCXGUVXGTBMRIMMOXVSAVK0OIRDW0LGQQLPLVGXOJHZA
\
VGMYAB0XOMVOFYDMHFGFOVVTLTTQNSKHHHVSOCKDWIUPXRXGDG0DQBKQGKZZRXFUEEUWUW
\
XWCRLS0PPOONYOIEQBNZHYEPBXMITBGCDHGISAIIOXKFSN0HM0FFIOXUTZCZKMSOCNCNH0\
PWXHAEDEXXTXRUJTUINHPTGVADLCFNGAFZXVFDJHEMNYOKUCFBZFCFBVLNERXYZAPTIYPL
\
CTOTTQZE0YBZOZQGZEMSZQPGGPCCPBZTCDNFLEPRZUJUN0TWRAIRHZBWWT0BACFJMMSRUL
\
IPATRAZCHQNQZBGNECPCBTAAHNRDJSBPPXKKX0VCBVZMTNTIGKPEFAJTRHQHZJAGGIYZ0T
\
RMYD0OT00QZI0ZHLCFXBRGGPBCTEHAPQTLMCQZKRTSLSMVSIQMTCEEHQRJEKHCJAZYHVXF
\
XZSZXPNVNDOGPTKOOVZTMANHRGIKTCKHXULBRWW0IKJQPZFSMYMFPWGHIILABFMBGFUHXW
\
ZMPCJOMF0LIFVFYINEFCHQHRZBMKUJWKFPTHDEEYLUCLXKTUVO0UKDNWM0AZOBDBHOQ0RR
\
TJVUGVEOEIIOBTWIWQHEWY0WSQTQQIRMTMJKF0HICINLOUZLZTGDDRIYPTLNRI0ILEEZBX
\
UWQMRKYBBLYHNQKHVEENTTTQUOYGWZEDPIJBCCEEUQKTMQRBRLNTNEDLVAIGWRCF0KVLHY
\
ZLMTAPWXAXKQFVJGOBGXLKKEXJBCYOYJRJKDZWGVCRFB0VTGKYMZUZVJJQWIRCQVME0ODT
\
LVKMAV0UCHZAOYOMROUIGJDDCGOFPJTMGYALUWWANLSPDEJDZFITT0CMYUJAZOQCZQVAJO
\
EYVQUSN0OIIPPQHFBJKXJHYWWPXGTWTUB0CSXJBDCGCMYD0UFBLRFMWMXNFTMEWXFLMWSG
\
KVSRA0RYHJPHFXMHJKSJAWMFOKEGGYDYRAARYDASREICPSBXUNOARCAUV0UNOCKMIHSNBG
\
WTKXTKGSFYBULCQYUMEENPJHXHQDCPWLHNBUEMMXYCRSTKFLCTFXEGQMZGKFVDLUKEQWWQ
\
HCXYSIA"
v.a.
> Qu'est-ce qui fait zéro ???
Le caractere underscore '_'
Puisque PI n'est pas rationnel, la suite de lettres
qui lui correspond a de bonnes chances de contenir
l'ensemble de tous les textes existants et a venir :
le travail du physicien chercheur va donc se transformer
en celui de simple lecteur a la recherche des expressions
litterales des lois de la physique dans cette suite ;-)
On peut imaginer l'apparition de cette sequence :
...CECI_N_EST_PAS_LA_SUITE_DES_DECIMALES_DE_PI...
> Connaissez-vous un site qui donne les mille premières décimales de pi
Ici il y en a un plus de 2400 en decimal
http://powerdown.free.fr/io/si/pi.htm
HTH
tiens, c'est curieux, �a, le fait que PI se d�crive avec une infinit� de
lettres implique-t-il que l'on doive y trouver toutes les s�quences
possibles et imaginables ???
une d�mo, peut-�tre, des fois que je sois capable de la comprendre...?
en tout cas je te souhaite bonne lecture...
Vincent
Non, �a ne l'implique pas. On pense que c'est vrai pour pi, mais on ne
sait pas le montrer.
merci, je dormirai moins b�te ce soir.
Vincent
Et l� 1 million.
http://www.exploratorium.edu/pi/Pi10-6.html
Et l� bas quelques stats sur les 51 premiers milliards.
http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/~jborwein/Kanada_50b.html
On gagne quoi ?
La notion de nombre univers est relatif � une base donn�e � priori.
Un nombre univers dans une base l'est-il dans une autre base ?
On a des r�sultats l� dessus ?
On pense effectivement que Pi est un nombre univers en base 10 (cf. le
lien sur les 50 milliards de d�cimales que j'ai donn�).
Mais en base 27 alors l�...
Sinon, vu que Plouffe a donn� une formule pour trouver n'importe
quelle "d�cimale" en base 16, a-t'on pu en d�duire l'universalit� de
Pi en hexa ?
On a en tout cas des r�sultats concernant les nombres normaux (c'est �a,
l'objet math�matiquement int�ressant; un nombre x est normal en base b
lorsque pour tout n, toutes les suites de n chiffres en base b
apparaissent de mani�re asymptotiquement �quiprobable dans le
d�veloppement de x).
Pr�cis�ment, on sait (Schmidt 1960) que deux bases b, b' sont telles
que tout nombre normal en base b est normal en base b' uniquement dans le
cas trivial o� b et b' ont une puissance commune (du style 100 et
1000).
> On pense effectivement que Pi est un nombre univers en base 10 (cf. le
> lien sur les 50 milliards de d�cimales que j'ai donn�).
> Mais en base 27 alors l�...
On pense que pi est normal en toute base.
> Sinon, vu que Plouffe a donn� une formule pour trouver n'importe
> quelle "d�cimale" en base 16, a-t'on pu en d�duire l'universalit� de
> Pi en hexa ?
Pas � ma connaissance, non.
ok, merci pour les pr�cisions.
C'est le Livre de Sable de Borgᅵs :)
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entrent dans la composition des remᅵdes. La prudence les assemble et
les tempᅵre, et elle s'en sert utilement contre les maux de la vie.
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