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Beethoven et ses frères sourds et aveugles

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rold

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Jan 13, 2006, 11:08:49 AM1/13/06
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Bonjour

Je viens de recevoir un PPS qui dit que Beethoven avait une mère atteinte de
syphilis quand elle était enceinte de lui.
Et que ses 2 de ses 8 frères et soeurs étaient aveugles, 3 étaient sourds et
un(e) autre attardé mental.

Je ne vois rien sur le net hormis des traces de ce PPS qui parlent de ça.

Alors info ou intox ?

Merci


rold

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Jan 13, 2006, 11:13:47 AM1/13/06
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rold <ro...@rold.rold> a écrit dans le message de
news:dq8jao$228t$1...@freebee.gegeweb.org

> Alors info ou intox ?

Bon génial j'ai transféré à pas mal de personnes ce PPS et ça ressemble à
une intox.

Trouvé sur le net :
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Is it true that Beethoven's mother got seven or more children, of which most
of them were deaf or blind or otherwise disabled, probably due to syphilis?
No, that's not true. When she married Johann van Beethoven she was already a
widow. Both her husband and her young baby had died. Nothing is known about
the cause of their deaths. In 1769 she gave birth to Johann's first child,
but it died at the age of six days. Then followed our great composer, then
his brother Caspar Anton Carl, who died in 1815 of tuberculosis, then his
brother Nikolaus Johann, who died in 1848 of old age. Three more children
(one boy, two girls) followed, all of them died very soon, respectively at
the age of four days, two years and one year. Nothing is known about the
causes of their deaths. Beethoven's mother died of tuberculosis (in 1787),
Beethoven's father probably of a heart attack (in 1792).

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La prochaine fois je m'y prendrais à deux fois avant de transmettre des
âneries.


Julien

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Jan 13, 2006, 1:41:00 PM1/13/06
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> Alors info ou intox ?

qui sait ?
quoique...
Dans la famille qui compta 7 enfants dont 3 fils parvinrent à l'age adulte
il y avait une lourde hérédité :
un père alcoolique, brutal et peu intelligent
une mère tuberculeuse;
et malgrè ça un être extraordinairement doué !
J.

claudeweil

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Jan 14, 2006, 3:17:01 PM1/14/06
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:13:47 +0100, "rold" <ro...@rold.rold> wrote:

>rold <ro...@rold.rold> a écrit dans le message de
>news:dq8jao$228t$1...@freebee.gegeweb.org
>> Alors info ou intox ?
>
>Bon génial j'ai transféré à pas mal de personnes ce PPS et ça ressemble à
>une intox.
>
>Trouvé sur le net :
>---------------

>In 1769 she [Beethoven's mother] gave birth to Johann's first child,

>but it died at the age of six days. Then followed our great composer, then
>his brother Caspar Anton Carl, who died in 1815 of tuberculosis, then his
>brother Nikolaus Johann, who died in 1848 of old age. Three more children
>(one boy, two girls) followed, all of them died very soon, respectively at
>the age of four days, two years and one year.

Cela corrobore les données du livre de Jean et Brigitte Massin sur
Beethoven,

CW

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