Newsletter August 2012

[Nick Karagiaouroglou]

Hi everybody!

I hope everybody is doing fine and you had some relaxing warm summer days too. It has been quite busy for me in the past few months because I was searching for possible support of any thinkable kind for our SEMACOMP. Well, it must have been a marathon or two through organisations, companies, even clubs and public initiatives, and until recently there was nothing to be found except the usual "interest" which soon turns to be thin air. But now it seems that we have real help. Actually it was under my nose all the time and I was looking... elsewhere. Oh well....

OK, you remember me of course talking about those "european projects" in good old Switzerland in one of my last messages. I had some good communication with the persons in the offices and I got much info about it. It is called EURESEARCH and actually it is a smaller version of the big organisation of FP7 but fully fledged and with one main advantage: Quite contrary to the EU the official institutions in Switzerland stand very very close to the people for whom they are supposed to be made. ;-) And imagine, there is even an office right here in Lucerne and I was travelling here and there instead....

So, after getting the first communication I visited an event that was held in Lugano on June the 20th. It was good though certainly too "generic" for our needs, since it was more about the concepts and the organisational part of it. And these things we already managed. But there has been also a lot of information and talks with the people, and they were quite willing to help. So I sent them our two versions of the proposal and also the two ESRs for introducing our project a bit more detailed. Some days ago I received a very encouraging answer - encouraging because perhaps for the first time I can really say that somebody outside our group *really read* and understood our idea as described in our proposal.

Mr. Patrick Furrer of the head office in Berne sent me his answer which I paste here:

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Here are some elements of answers.

I read the two ESR, and they seem to repeat eachother, this is not a good sign. The first ESR was calling for more details in the possible breaktrhough and the path towards itf, and this did not happen in the second proposal, which still uses more than one page on risks (which could be left for phase 2). The Phase 1 is very short, it is limited to 5 pages only therefore only S&T originality and especially the possible path to success of the project should be depicted. The basic idea of the project is attractive enough I believe to have a chance of being selected, but remember you'll have most likely the same or simialr evaluators so you'll have to convince them their feedbacks from the previous times have produced some changes

What I could offer you is to attend our FET event on August 27th, at EPFL in Lausanne. The FET Open responsible (Walter van de Welde) from the EC will talke about this, and about what a good FET Open proposa lis. 

Also remember you'll have other opportunities to sumbit such a proposal (but in a FULL form), for instance in challenge 4 (Digital content), which is currently open. 

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Good, isn't it? So for now I change our proposal as Patrick describes, which means that much more weight will be put to the path which we want to follow and why it is as ingenious as we all are. ;-) Please, do not get me wrong here, I am certainly not throwing your whole considerations and thoughts about risks. It is only that the people working in EURESEARCH have a better connection to such things than any one of us can have. Actually it has great advantages that we already have the possible risks quite complete, so that the second step can be done faster. I want to get the new proposal finished until Monday in order to hand it out to them in Lausanne directly, at the FET event.

This way we already have our "marketing consultancy", as Elenika pointed out, and with no additional costs, plus directly from the official side.

Now, I think that we could first try to stay in FET open, but also consider challenge 4 as an additional alternative in case FET doesn't work. What do you think?

Oh, and not to forget here, I also worked out much of the additional detailed description about the fundamental math principles and hope to get it finished before we apply for a third time. The general parts are done and now I have to add the specific potential for SEMACOMP. The real hard thing here is to remain understandable for the "layman" but without allowing the used notions to be thought of in their usual meaning of everyday language. That for example the notion of a "Category" or an "Object" or a "Relation" is not to be interpreted as the usual meaning of the word but as a sharp definition. (Or else one will understand it false and probably conclude that it cannot work this way.) This is why it eats up so much time... You know, those darn few general terms.

OK, let me go back to work now. Of course you will be getting a copy of the new proposal as soon as it is finished, and of course your ideas about it are always important and welcome.

Have a nice day and cheers!

Nick

P.S.: Oh, almost forgot it: The diet was painful but successful. Now at 66.6 Kg! Which means:

a) that I should call Iron Maiden for a job in the new remake of their video, "The number of the Beast". ;-)

b) that now I can at last add something to enjoy life now and then, as Mark advised. I think of a tea or something stronger too!

But seriously, does anybody know what it can be when you can't pull your foot up? I mean, since some weeks it felt quite strange when I walked and I thought at the start that something is wrong with my shoe. But then I gradually realized that I cannot pull the left foot upwards. It seems that the tendon (or the tenant?) on the front is not responding. (Not the Achilles tendon but the one on the opposed side at the front.) So I can't land the left foot by gradually removing the tension from the tendon in order to let the foot roll, but it rather "flaps" down as soon as there is weight on heel. Any idea? Perhaps some result of the strict diet?

Strange to get no problem with the feet at a weight of 114kg in order to get some at a weight of 66.6. ;-) 

[Elena Zamsa]

Dear Nick, all

I know Patrick very well he is a very good friend of mine, we are
collaborating with him in our ICT NCP Network. He is a great person and
always ready to help with a really important and useful information.
Say hello to Patrick from my side when you see him next time!

I'm still convinced that we do not have to lose the opportunity to apply
a full project under Priority 4 and after that to think about FET - as
this call is always open.

The information day at Lausanne can be a very good idea and also i would
recommend the Proposers day in Warsaw (i'll attend it). If anybody will
attend i would like to meet you there.

@Nick - take care of your legs and congraturalitons with an amazing
result! i hope to meet you and you could tell me which diet you followed ;)

Waiting for another version of proposal and i think it will be fine to
ask who is still in the game!

Warm regards from Moldova,

Elenika

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[Milan Puvaca]

Dear Nick, Elena and all,

glad to hear news about Semacomp. Of course Ofir is still in the game, count us in please :) Hope that everybody else are still interested too.

From my point of view, if it is possible to submit our project on both calls we should do it. Also, firstly it will be great to see with Nick did with new proposal (and somehow I believe that he did it perfectly ;)

And yes...leave your body to adopt on big change Nick! Try to have walking, jogging and other activities as much as you can and the leg pain should go away for sure.

Looking forward to hear you all soon.
Cheers!
Milan

[Ken Currie]

Nick

 

Good update, thanks.

 

Digital Content (Challenge 4) is much more focused and therefore an easier target, I think, than FEP.  It will be massively competitive though.  Maintain CAPDM’s note of interest, particularly for Digital Content which is very much our area of expertise and focus.  I would be willing to make a bigger contribution to any submission here but, having led a recent FP7 bid, I know how much work this requires and that we are too small to take on such a lead again.  You will need stamina, organisation and experience here.

 

Can’t help you on the tendon front even though, as an old soccer player of 30+ years standing, I have had my share of tendon injuries.

 

Ken

 

 

 

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[Kor, Ah-Lian]

Dear Nick,

Good to hear that SemaComp is still alive. I am still interested.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Ah Lian

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[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi everybody and thanks a lot for the input!

In extreme hurry to get to Lausanne on time, so here only the most
important. I finished the new version of the proposal as Patrcik
Furrer recomended. It is still for FET Open but we can of course turn
it to a full proposal for challenge 4. This one is only for letting
Patrick (and you) take a look and see of the description of methods
and target is better understandable, etc.

More details today evening when I am back.

Ciao,

Nick

[con...@biomedtalk.com]

Dear Nick,
Thank you for your e-mail.
I will be mire than happy to participate at this project submitting.
Please, keep me informed.

Sincerely,

Oleksandr Kuzmenko, PhD,
Kiev, Ukraine
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[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi everybody!

I hope that this time the message will get through. I tried several
times but for some reason it was "recognized" as spam by the automatic
filters of google, and when I the administration mechanisms available
didn't work. My message just disappeared whenever I tried to set its
status to normal in the group. BTW, there have been another 11 spam
messages for our group, which also disappeared when I tried to set
them to normal in order to check them. So, could it be that somebody
else in our group had the same problem of trying to send a message
without any success?

Anyway thanks a lot for all the input and the help. It is so nice
knowing that I could have a chance to work on something with all of
you guys out there!

Monday in Lausanne has been indeed very good, informative and
encouraging. Patrick is very willing to help, and indeed we had a very
constructive discussion about the nuts and bolts. Our idea for a
proposal fits quite well in the FET Open, as this kind of projects are
those which come up with something completely new, "crazy", never been
there before. It is, as he said, for the people that want to try
something completely new just for the fun, the excitement, the
science. And this is definitely the main point in SEMACOMP. Actually
it seems to fit exactly there since there has been also a seminar
about sich things like for example how important it is to start
research and work for fundamental principles since software gets more
and more complicated and the already available methodologies are
getting less and less appropriate, while at the same time there is so
little done using methodologies that deliver software made with the
superior principles of self organization and "organic like evolution".
You can imagine how well I felt when I heard that. :-) And even more
happy I got when I heard that it is exactly such wide (wild?)
interdisciplinary cooperation is exactly the right thing there.

On the other hand there is some free space for such really ground
breaking things in Challenge 4, though to a less extend. In Challenge
4 one has to be more "mainstream", that is more oriented towards
practical use and less towards theory. This is why it is more
"crowded" there, as Ken pointed out. But if we focus more on the
practical side then it could fit very well too.

So, again as Patrick said, we could (should) try ... both! (Or even
yet another call.) And I think too that this is the best of all to do.
Let's try this FET, and then Challenge 4. For FET it should get even
more enthusiastic, with less risks analysis and with just the POC for
the organisational part. But the main thing there should be to enhance
the novelty of the project. And this is what I do now, as I have to
send it in until the 11.09. which seems to be feasible. I will open an
new place for inputing our costs and let you know about that.

For Challenge 4 it should get more "practical". That means to put more
weight on possible applications and benefits of our future results.
Here we have to add the risk analysis, which we already have to a very
big part. The full proposal will need of course a bit more time, but
the deadline is in April and so it will be time enough for that.

Elena, I did say hello from you to Patrick - he was quite happy to
know. Actually it seems to me that the dead ends start meeting all
together, which is always a good thing. Anyway, I think that trying
both possibilities, as also Milan pointed out, would be OK with you
too? As about Warsaw, I don't think that I can make it but this is not
for sure. Let me see if I could organize it somehow. Oh, and thanks a
lot for the congratulations - the diet has been pretty simple: eat
less. ;-)

Milan, thanks a lot for your advice. The strange thing is that there
is no pain at all. Only inability to move the darn left foot upwards,
that's all. Actually, I am not really sure if I feel anything at all
there, but when I went to the doctor I could say when the probes
touched my foot. I could exactly feel it but.... differently. I cannot
describe what exactly the difference is. Oh well, perhaps I am only
getting old. C:->

Anyway, something jumped into my mind right now.... Why is it that we
can exactly describe visual sense but we have almost no word to say
for example how something smells? Dozens of words for colors and
shapes but only four for tastes and none for smell. (Words like
"sweet" do not count as they are actually tastes and not smells.)
Hmmm..... another semantical problem? Or does it depend on language
family and there also other language families with more concepts about
smell? Ah-Lian, any ideas about that? Elisabeth and Mark could tell us
more too about it, I guess... Are you guys still with us? Ah-Lian, could

Ken, sure FET is going to bea lot of hard work, but if I know that we
do get a chance I would be only happy to get it done, whatever it
takes. It is the opposite that makes me tired, namely not knowing
where exactly to start for positioning our proposal better. But now I
got some orientation at last. So let's see what happens of we try both
worlds. The thing is, if we manage to get it funded in FET then we
have some special niche for us. Your contribution in Digital Content
will boost the project - I am sure about it. Actually content and
meaning either go hand in hand or none of both is there at all, I think.

Ah-Lian, thanks a lot for your willing to participate. BTW, do you
know perhaps if Elizabeth is still interested?

So, let me know what you think. I go back to work now with a foot that
feels different. (I know, I know, I should not plagiarize Apple's
commercials or else I could end up paying huge bills to them. :-D)

Ciao and cheers,

Nick

[Nick Karagiaouroglou]

Thanks a lot Olek!

Stay tuned and cheers,

Nick

[Guest, Elizabeth (INN)]

I am still very interested. I have just been on leave trying to get my garden into some kind of order between showers (and generally trying to get a rest).

Regarding smells, I think we tend to compare a new smell with a well known one. I know for example that "sweet cicily" smells like liquorice and this is its main difference from a similar looking plant that is highly poisonous. But how can you describe what liquorice smells like?

I am currently reading up on fuzzy logic. If we could incorporate this, I think it might strengthen our proposal. In combination with isomorphism it will increase the novelty factor. The drawback is that there is a lot of misunderstanding about fuzzy logic.

Elizabeth

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[Mark Grimshaw]

why, liquorice smells like aniseed ;)

Mark

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[Guest, Elizabeth (INN)]

This version is very much improved from the last one I saw. Well done.

 

Elizabeth

 

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Hi everybody and thanks a lot for the input!

 

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[Agata Filipowska]

Dear Nick,

we are also interested. The only question is: what is the plan ;-)?

Best,
Agata

P.S. I'm really amazed by the result of the diet!
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[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi everybody!

At last I managed to compress the proposal down to 5 pages in order to
fit for FET Open (attachment). Actually I could not get it as "crazy"
as I wished but the main focus of insanity is still there, I hope! Now
I am going to send it to Mr. Patrick Furrer and let's hope he finds it
OK too. But independently of that, the next step is to re-enter the
data of our budget. I think that I can use the same data like last
time and then submit it. (I hope that inflation rate hasn't raised
your budget needs significantly. ;-))

After that we can also go for challenge 4 - I will be very glad for
the 10 pages there! ;-)

To Mark:

I can imagine how busy you must be. I hope that apart from very busy
it is exciting too and that you have a good time despite all work.
BTW, is there still much remaining to learn in Danish?

About Wikindx: Of course SEMACOMP can use it. In fact I think that it
would be rather Wikindx that uses SEMACOMP as a data delivery source,
but no doubt that this is a very good possibility of a combination.
And since we also habe linguistics in the package, it seems that all
requirements are covered for establishing good methods of
interdisciplinary research without the usual problems of different
jargons between the disciplins.

Indeed, I had tried Wikindx in the past and it run very well back
then, but I tried that again just for the case. It still runs very
well with all functionality available. I only have the impression that
it got a bit slower but I think that this is mainly due to the updates
of my OS while my old Mac still has the same hardware. (You know, tell
me a reason for updating a running OS nowadays.) Anyway, could you
please keep me informed in case something new comes into Wikindx? I
find it such an interesting and useful piece of software that I
consider using it for myself.

Thanks a lot for the attached proposal too! Indeed, exactly what
Patrick also described. At the end it could be that it was a mistake
to try to get our proposal so "seriously formulated"... Or I guess
that the "seriously looking businessmen" had a bad influence on me for
a very very long time. ;-) So, let's see what happens this time.


To Elizabeth:

Exactly, you see what I mean? When it comes nailing down something
like a smell we only have such analogies and approximations but way no
such solid definitions like for example for vision. And so I wonder
how we can communicate about smells at all. Strange...

As about fuzzy logic, well yes, it could play a big role too. Of
course it is too early to decide about methods now but on the other
hand it doesn't have to be just category theory. Anything that fits
can be used.

Thank you very much too for the input on the proposal!


To Agatha:

So nice to hear you are still interested, Agatha! The plan is simple:
Just make it for the FET Open until Monday and then a rush for
challenge 4 too.

As about the diet, you can't imagine how amazed I am! I can't drink
anymore!!! ;-)


To all:

Well, that was it for now. I will keep you informed about submitting
it and of course also about what Patrick Furrer thinks of it.

Oh, and just for the record, my foot seems to have some serious
trouble considering the neurological check that they ordered for me on
next Tuesday. I wonder for what such a test it can be good, but who
knows... Perhaps something got literally on my foot nerves. ;-) But
seriously, I think that it is once more how to enlarge the doctors
wallet out of some simple problem. ;-) At the end they will find out
that it is only some blood circulation problem that could have been
fixed with some few exercises - but of course this will have no effect
on the flow of case for the nice doctor. ;-)

Ciao and cheers!

Nick

P.S.: I would say, if it smells like liquorice or aniseed, drink
it! ;-) You can never know when you will have a diet after which you
can't drink anymore! ;-)

[Zamsha elenika]

Dear Nick, all

Starting 01.01.2012 Moldova is an associated country to FP7. Unfortunately the rates are changed for Moldova.

Nick do you think it will be possible to re-calculate our budget for MOldova?

TOday i am back from ICT NCP Meeting, i would like to aanounce that on 12 september a new Fet XTrack will be published - instead of FET Open (It is first try to migrate to H2020), with new rules. I will try to sumarise the differences and the principles of the new call and send to all of you in 2 days. Also i was responsible to interview the FET Officer at the meeting, i asked many questions about the differences and similarities. I think there is a reason to wait one two weeks and to apply following new rules of one step evaluation.

Best regards,
Elena

[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi Elenika, hi all!

Elenika, of course we should re-calculate your budget now that Moldova
is an associated country to FP7. Other wise we could run into
problems, right?

I saw about Xtrack in the web pages of cordis and I wondered myself if
this wouldn't be the right place. From what I read there I do have the
impression that it is much more about "crazy ideas" or "high risk" as
they name it. So if you also think that it is then let's go for that
rather than FET Open. I will inform Patrick about that change so that
he doesn't need to hurry checking our proposal.

Well, I will be glad to receive your info but at the same time I
search myself too in order to know some things more.

Thank you very much!

Nick

[Roberto García]

Nice work with the new version. And the XTrack seems promising.

Roberto

[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi everybody!

In a big hurry since Mr. Furrer has checked the proposal as it is in
the last PDF I uploaded here too, and he found it apparently much
better than in the two versions we already submitted. He said in
particular:

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Hello,

This proposal looks great, it lacks a bit of a description of a
possible proof of concept implementation ( the path to success in the
long term), but this is hard to build overnight. Thus I would submit
it as is to FET Open under 9.1, to be able to get a feedback before
submitting a xtrack version (or a FULL STREP).

Best regards

Patrick Furrer
IPhone sending
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So, as tomorrow is the deadline for Open, I suggest that we proceed as
he recommends and this is why it has to be done quickly. Elenika, I
will wait for any possible critical problem from your side until
tomorrow midday, but if there is none (or if I do not get a reply
until then) I will proceed. This will be likely another "no", as
Patrick also says, but the feedback can be used for any further steps.

Waiting impatiently, cheers!

Nick

[Elena Zamsa]

Dear Nick,

I am in Bucharest with very bad internet connection, i am also
suggesting to submit the current version for 9.1.

Regards,
Elena

[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Great, thanks a lot Elena!

We go for it!!!!

Hurray!!

Nick

[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi everybody,

and please somebody give me a pillow for sleeping seven weeks!

I managed to get through the whole procedure of submission, including data and budgets etc. OK, now it can take its way and we can use their output as additional info for the "right" bidding, that is for XTrack and Challenge 4.

I am so curious to see what they say this time..... (Almost collecting the many wonderful types of refusals, that is! I have a whole library of them! ;-))


Keeping you informed, cheers!

Nick

[Kor, Ah-Lian]

Dear Nick,
Well done and certainly we could learn from failures depending on how we view them.

Ah Lian

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[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Ah-Lian, it sounds so reasonable and nice as you say it, but
apparently I get older and not wiser.

That is, sometimes I get also a Budweiser. ;-)

Seriously now, thank you and everybody else here so much!

Nick

[Mark Grimshaw]

Congratulations and thanks for all your hard work Nick.

Mark

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On 11/09/12 16.05, "Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou" <nkaragia...@diso.ch>
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[Alejandro Varas]

Hi Nick and everybody,

I've just arrived from several weeks in Vietnam as backpacker, totally
disconnected from the Internet and any mean of communication to focus only
in living the experience there. There won't be much chances in the future to
live a experience like this, so I couldn't reject this opportunity, I'm
getting older ... Totally recommended Vietnam, but spend there at least 2
weeks, 3 would be better, but 4 is the best to see almost everything.

I have seen the work you have done and I have to congratulate all of you. I
would have liked to participate more, but I was totally away. The document
of the final submission is the one sent by email in 7th September, isn't it?
If possible, could you send me the username and password for the epss
platform, please?

BTW, I'm attending next week ICT Proposers' day, I guess I will meet again
Elena, is anybody else going?

Warm regards,
Alejandro

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[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi everybody!

I forgot to send you all the username and password for our EPSS, which
Alejandro's message reminded me of. Excuse me please for that, the
last few days have been quite an adventure in the jungle of
authorities. I just wanted two weeks of holidays in Croatia but I
forgot completely that my passport already expired last February.
Well, you can imagine what happened at the airport and then also
trying to get some kind of replacement just for this trip. I played
the ping-pong ball between them and they all won and I lost.
Shhhhhhhhh...... &%$#*/§!!!! (Not to be translated in front of small
children. ;-))

Alejandro, I am so glad you enjoyed your holiday, but for the real
Vietnam (including US invasion and all the rest of it) you just have
to mess with authorities! ;-) Garantied to work perfectly over the
whole planet, no matter where you are. This is something really
international, I guess. ;-)

Well, back to subject. Sending you an email with the credentials for
identifying yourself at the EPSS. (Now Nick plays another &%$#*/§-
authority!! ;-))

Ciao,

Nick

[Zamsha elenika]

HI everybody!

i hope all of you are fine. How are you?
Is the consortium still ready to work together?
I did not receive any e-mails and i was wondering if we are still interested to apply as consortium.

Regards,
Elenika

[Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou]

Hi Elenika, hi everybody!

It is only the typical waiting for some reaction from the commission.
Much like silence time for a submarine but it is still there under the
waves. ;-)

Seriously now, considering myself I am still very committed. While
awaiting I just try to get some things done for a living since I do
not want to start any long term job obligation now, which might turn
to be a hindrance for working on SEMACOMP in case some sudden "OK"
comes in from the FP7. It eats up much time running for day or week
jobs, or repairing iPhones and the like, and this is why I am away
these days. But as soon as some message (hopefully positive) arrives
about our project I will be "reactivated" immediately.

So let's hope.

Ciao for now, know I am here and waiting, and keep all well!

Nick

[Mark Grimshaw]

Hi all,

I have another project in FET-Open which was submitted early July. For
some weeks now, it has been listed as 'awaiting
consensus' despite their home site promising an 8 week turnaround. So, I
think patience is required. Also, I note that FET-Open has now changed to
a single stage process of application.

Regards,

Mark

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On 01/12/12 19.48, "Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou" <karagia...@sunrise.ch>
wrote:

[Milan Puvaca]

Hi all!
waiting for any reply...standing by, let us know!

@Nick...I am not sure whether you received my mail from 1.11??

cheers,
Milan

2012/12/1 Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou <karagia...@sunrise.ch>

[Kor, Ah-Lian]

Dear All,

We need a little patience…..:-)

 

 

Ah Lian

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[Milan Puvača]

Hi all!
waiting for any reply...standing by, let us know!

@Nick...I am not sure whether you received my mail from 1.11??

cheers,
Milan

2012/12/1 Nikolaos Karagiaouroglou <karagia...@sunrise.ch>

Hi Elenika, hi everybody!