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Saifi

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Aug 7, 2017, 5:44:01 AM8/7/17
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please review and share your thoughts

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fosscafe

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Why ?

the warmth of a community, the comfort of a cafe, the intensity of a hacker !

the joy of HACK-ing, SHAR-ing with Bengaluru FOSS community every WEEK-end.


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We believe

Learning is the new labour.

When there are goals to achieve, everyone is actively engaged.

Deliberate is better than distracted

Five times in five weeks is better than once in five weeks.

Learning rhythm is a force multiplier within the community

Dynamic Course correction is better than perfect planning

Easier to stay out than get out

No is temporary but yes is permanent

Seek forgiveness not permission

All of us are awesome when we help each other succeed

Being Open is more efficient than being Closed

All days are equal. It was marketing that fooled us
into believing that weekend is a holiday

Running is better than walking.

Reflection is better than criticism

Fork is better than Junk

The code is the benchmark

Source code is the truth and not comments.

Using FOSS tools and systems promotes all round learning.

Software is eating everyone's lunch

Free software is eating proprietary software for lunch.

Open culture is an automatic filtering mechanism and shifts the responsibility
of performance to the participant.

The tragedy of commons in FOSS is an abandoned project.

FOSS creates a shared vocabulary which meaningfully engages the participants in
the intellectual pursuit.

FOSS is the foundation for entirely new type of applications and
infrastructures.


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We promise

we will be pro-active

we will not tolerate bad attitude

we will not deal with bureacracy

we will do more than we speak

we will create more than we consume


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Goals ahead

64 week surge, beginning September 2017.


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fosscafe meetup days

every weekend
. saturday
. sunday


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fosscafe meetup duration

210 minutes


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fosscafe meetup structure

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setjmp ( 5 min)
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talk ( 45 min)
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longjmp ( 10 min)
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workshop (140 min)
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sigaction ( 5 min)
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we need your help

spread the news around about fosscafe

encourage interested folks to join meetup.com/fosscafe

we need multiple venue(s) for the meetup. help with venue

if you are newbie, actively engage in learning, discussions and participaton

if you are experienced, actively share your knowledge by making presentations
and conducting workshops

if you are emeritus, link us to other influencers and mentor the promising
hackers in the community

if you enjoy community interactions, consider stepping up and join as an
co-organizer, community lead.



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community links

meetup.com/fosscafe

github.com/fosscafe

twitter.com/fosscafe

groups.google.com/group/fosscafe

foss...@googlegroups.com

#fosscafe

flickr.com/photos/fosscafe

medium.com/@fosscafe

fosscafe.github.io


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important documents

code of conduct (conduct.md)

venue sponsorship guidelines (vsg.md)

no thank you (thankyou.md)


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legal

all documents released under CC-BY-NA-SA 4.0 or GFDL 3.0

all used source code released under upstream project license.
all created source code released under AGPL v3.

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warm regards
Saifi.

Shashank Krishnamurthy

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Aug 9, 2017, 11:50:09 AM8/9/17
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Hi Saifi,

Just one request. Rather than being only on Arch Linux, I reckon the posting the required packages for meetups would help.

Comments welcome

Regards
Shashank

Saifi

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Aug 9, 2017, 1:00:15 PM8/9/17
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> -------Original Message-------
> From: Shashank Krishnamurthy <skmur...@gmail.com>
> To: FOSS Cafe <foss...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [fosscafe] Re: fosscafe vision document
> Sent: Aug 09 '17 21:20
>
> Hi Saifi,
>
> Just one request. Rather than being only on Arch Linux, I reckon the posting the required packages for meetups would help.
>
> Comments welcome
>

Hi Shashank:

Here is the point of view that has gone into the thinking:

Arch Linux is one distro that doesn't change the upstream packages and if any user reports any issue, the bug is pushed to the upstream project.
This means minimum deviation from the upstream package and at the sametime, we have the latest and the greatest package available as soon as it is released.

eg. i am running 4.12.4-x Linux kernel on Arch. which other distro can match this ?

The documentation is excellent. You have to see the ArchLinux Wiki to believe it.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/

This means maximum ease of availablility of information, without we having to paraphrase the stuff

The distro is minimalistic as it focusses on the system administrators. This means we have the least overhead.

We are working on a model where an attendee of fosscafe event doesn't even have to worry about the package as well, as long as the base distro is installed on bare metal or in vagrant.

In addition, we want to have the workshops totally self-contained. the word is "totally" self-contained.
This means not having to depend at all on the venue WiFi or internet access.

Having said that, hence forth, the package list would be pushed out to git repo. Attendees on other disto's are welcome to map the packages to their specific distribution as the case may be.

i believe this is what you meant. Please let me know if i addressed your query.

warm regards
Saifi.

ragini

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Aug 10, 2017, 3:00:56 AM8/10/17
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Hi Shashank,

Yes, the list of required packages will be posted on this list and the git repo.

https://github.com/fosscafe

thanks
Ragini

Shashank Krishnamurthy

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Aug 11, 2017, 6:40:31 AM8/11/17
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Thanks Saifi.

Arch Linux adoption in main stream Linux desktops is way less than Ubuntu or Fedora. My only concern is that once we have a package list then we can have people using other distros to happily continue using them.

The one problem I think we would face with vagrant box is that the box is on a google drive and not on Atlas. And whenever the packages are upgraded the box also has to be upgraded in the Atlas.


Regards
Shashank

Saifi

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Aug 11, 2017, 7:33:10 AM8/11/17
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Yes Shashank.
You are right in your assessment about folks running *untu/*dora as desktops. The following article evaluates the standing of distro's towards end of year 2016.
https://www.tecmint.com/top-best-linux-distributions-2016/

Yes, a list of package to install on Linux is the solution for folks running some Linux distro. It only works for folks 'already' running a Linux distro.

What does one do for folks on Mac or Windows as desktops ?

That's where the Arch Linux based vagrant box or docker image shine.

Vagrant
People can download the vagrant box and keep upgrading it as their usage evolves

Docker
People can do 'docker pull strikr/net-tools' and keep tagging the stuff as they keep adding the packages they need

This approach works as the focus is a 'minimal server runtime' and not a desktop !

The end game is running containers, who cares about the desktop anyway ;-)


warm regards
Saifi.

sudo !!

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Aug 20, 2017, 2:48:03 AM8/20/17
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Hey Saifi,

fosscafe.github.io is not up right now. Is that included in the roadmap?

Cheers

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