What are the Challanges in Software Business in Nepal

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Sagar Kshetri

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Jun 20, 2013, 10:21:00 AM6/20/13
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Yo qns ko answer k hola?

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Prabin Gautam

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:24:48 PM6/20/13
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Present scenario of market :

Firstly lack of culture of using licensed software in case of proprietory softwares.
Secondly lack of mechanism to check the usage of pirated softwares.
Thirdly power and connectivity
Fourthly, software company still do not think beyond outsourcing or offshoring. Local market is ignored as a result local uses global pirated softwares.
And others.. need some time to think n write more....

Now the challenges are to overcome above hurdles.

Hope this is of some help.

Cheers
Openlad

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Sagar Kshetri

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Jun 20, 2013, 1:01:14 PM6/20/13
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ok, will be looking forward.

Diwash Pradhan

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Jun 21, 2013, 7:09:06 AM6/21/13
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Lack of localisation, engineers arent good at nepali or not interested to build softwares in nepali, OS also doest support unicode properly, most local software dont use unicode either.  There not much resources online supporting youths interseted in doing so.Beside urban youths others arent good at english, so i believe software and os should be localised.

Bal Krishna Bal

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Jun 21, 2013, 8:27:27 AM6/21/13
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The environment for localization and unicodification is best handled by government agencies like the Government. That way, it gears the required momentum and at the same time would be sustainable.

We cannot expect general engineers to be experts of localization and the local language. There is a separate domain - the language engineering domain and language engineers and\or computational linguists should be the ones who would be the right persons to take this up.

Definitely, localization is the way to go for bridging the digital divide caused by the language barrier English but it might be a good idea to introduce a fully localized OS in Nepali or other relevant local language in the first place itself rather than switching from English to Nepali.

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Bal Krishna Bal
Kathmandu University
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Diwash Pradhan

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Jun 21, 2013, 12:40:56 PM6/21/13
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Well true, but in that case so is controlling of piracy and use of open source software best done by the government. But here we being a community, should build and encourage in activities so that localising software becomes more efficient. Building opensource tools, libraries, promoting localising activities,  database of translation, blogs for common issues ..... should be encouraged.
This will build easiness for nepali ppl to adapt with computers and technology, create a software economy. And force government to act towards it.

My personal view,
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Prabin Gautam

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Jun 22, 2013, 12:36:52 PM6/22/13
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Very true Bal sir and Diwash ji. In same line as my thesis had suggested.

I had done my M.Sc. Dissertation to build a framework for IT adoption in Nepal.  I have attached thesis.. hope it can be of some help to find the challenges and the suggested suitable framework our government could adopt.

I have included some significant figures from my dissertation below:

Framework of IT adoption:
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proposed structure and roles of govt. bodies:

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Hope this is of some help.

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Openlad



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Laxmi Khatiwada

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Jun 23, 2013, 12:45:04 AM6/23/13
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Hello Fossians

The only one  Challenges in Software Business in Nepal is lack of localization/internationalization  education. An engineer or a linguist  can not do anything in isolation borderline.
System localization is not a separate subject of educational system in Nepali education scenario. Policy makers, Education institutions, Activists, linguists and engineers should be aware about interdisciplinary ( computer science+ localization, internationalization + language computing i.e. NLP) education. We have to start
interdisciplinary education system as soon as possible.   According to my understanding, This is the path to reach on the destination
of Software Business ( with emphasis FOSS) in Nepal.

With best regards

Laxmi Prasad Khatiwada

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Diwash Pradhan

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Jun 23, 2013, 2:34:50 AM6/23/13
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+1
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Sagun

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Jul 27, 2013, 4:22:45 AM7/27/13
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The challenges of Software Businesses in Nepal (from the horse's mouth):

1. Like almost all the areas in Nepal, Software Business is affected by Honesty. Honesty of developers is one of the major issues. Honesty as in , if your boss doesn't see the problem, its not a problem. Honesty of contractors is another issue. Honesty as in , if the client doesn't see the problem, its not a problem. Another issue of honesty is support. Contractors don't provide support and clients don't pay for it. Honesty of companies is another issue too. Honesty as in exploiting poor freshers (paying as low as 5000) and giving them hell lot of work and not educating them.

2.  The very culture of trying to get a bargain is a problem. Clients bargain for cost and vendors bargain on service. One has to remember, everything has a cost. Somebody has to pay for it. If a customer refuses to pay for support and thinks that everything should come for free its a mistake. Vendors will not give you a support for something you haven't paid for. Vendors also need to remember one should not compete with others in price saying I can give you the service in cheap without considering support. The country is losing a hell lot of money because clients have to order another software because vendors don't give support.

3. We don't have a culture of honesty, we developers (freshers) are forced to accept a salary in peanuts at the beginning of career. And we pay back by leaving the jobs unethically. We don't feel bad leaving a project in a middle because we think the companies had been taking too much advantage on us. But I think we shouldn't accept a job for peanuts just because the company is big and its good for profile. Its a pity our Engineers are low paid(literally) than the government office janitors.

4. I don't know if its culture or again honesty. Clients (from gov offices to individuals) don't pay for the software they have purchased on time.  No one pays fine either and no one has tried forcing the buyers pay fine for late payments. Software businesses are in need to pay gundas to collect their payment. A developer cannot produce an outstanding software of international standard with empty stomach.

5. This one is more technical (still not technical), software companies in Nepal don't have funds to spend too much on requirement studies, researches and user studies, because we simply have to be cheap. Our clients can afford to spend tens of thousands on a round of beer and munchies but some more for better software quality. We cannot afford to hire experts and consultants while building software because we want to keep it either cheap or increase profits. We just continue making bogus codes claiming it a software just ignoring a good analysis, cutting down cost in expertise needed and exploit poor junior developers on software that should work on national levels.

6. Electricity, Internet, Water and other basic needs can be just eliminated from the list. But again they are the bi-products of point 1.

GIST: The problem mainly lies in mentality.
Warm Regards,
Sagun Dhakhwa
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Bal Krishna Bal

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Jul 27, 2013, 7:28:50 AM7/27/13
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muna thapa

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Lava Kafle

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Jul 28, 2013, 10:33:35 PM7/28/13
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Sagun Sir,
how can we make governement make policies to render best software development environment as you identified, why they the stakeholders not united to fom such facilities like in BUTwal SEZ Special Economic ZONE is being constructed , 7 year tax free special communication water electricity ... and its heartening see Banepa IT park languishing in ruins worth billions of dollars.
Thanks Sir for raising the issue.
Lava

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Kathmandu University
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