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Pravin Raj Joshi
Dec 3, 2009, 8:30:15 PM12/3/09
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For the softwares that are already built I can make an informal list at
bvs.edu.np if you all send me the name of the software and its website.
Somebody else can make it a formal list at some public site.
I know of Jwalanta's products in his website. I have a couple myself,
which I will put up.
So please lets get more info and I will make the list. I saw that Laxmi
wanted to volunteer on this one. So, maybe you and me lets collaborate
where we look into the products that people send us the name and link
and create the list.
Let us make it clear that we want to list all products that we have
made, even the smallest of the smallest ones, to add to the bargaining
power. So don't feel that your product might be small, just send it in.
Remember, drops of water make the ocean and so it is with code. If you
dont believe me please read the book "A Commentary on the Sixth Edition
Unix Operating System" by J.Lions and you will understand how the
smallest of the smallest pieces of code make up a very complex piece of
software.
Also I would like to make a list of possible (and probably very small)
utilities that Nepali people would like to have in their pcs. Maybe we
need to take examples from some of the utilities that nepali use on
their windows pc. Then we can take up the challenge of building them. I
would like to build a few myself.
Pravin
bvs.edu.np if you all send me the name of the software and its website.
Somebody else can make it a formal list at some public site.
I know of Jwalanta's products in his website. I have a couple myself,
which I will put up.
So please lets get more info and I will make the list. I saw that Laxmi
wanted to volunteer on this one. So, maybe you and me lets collaborate
where we look into the products that people send us the name and link
and create the list.
Let us make it clear that we want to list all products that we have
made, even the smallest of the smallest ones, to add to the bargaining
power. So don't feel that your product might be small, just send it in.
Remember, drops of water make the ocean and so it is with code. If you
dont believe me please read the book "A Commentary on the Sixth Edition
Unix Operating System" by J.Lions and you will understand how the
smallest of the smallest pieces of code make up a very complex piece of
software.
Also I would like to make a list of possible (and probably very small)
utilities that Nepali people would like to have in their pcs. Maybe we
need to take examples from some of the utilities that nepali use on
their windows pc. Then we can take up the challenge of building them. I
would like to build a few myself.
Pravin
Jitendra kumar
Dec 3, 2009, 11:00:12 PM12/3/09
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Great initiative Pravin dai!
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Diwash Pradhan
Dec 4, 2009, 5:21:18 AM12/4/09
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Couln't Foss Group open sites like LifeHacker ???? .. It would be great to learn , post and comments for nepali open source programs--
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Ishwor Gurung
Dec 4, 2009, 5:21:52 AM12/4/09
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Hi,
2009/12/4 Jitendra kumar <jitendra...@gmail.com>:
developers/admins/packagers/translators could work on that instead
perhaps? :-)
Ubuntu/Fedora is another possibility. These distros could be packaged
up in such a manner that all the debs/rpms be included in Nepali
context (software that will be used by Nepali in Nepali language or
some such) with additional helpful nepali codebase.
Pravin bro is suggesting a rather radical idea because it involves
building a distro with software from ground up (read DRY principle).
Right? Using existing distros as base/s install, all the software can
be had easily (obviously packagers,translators and other help will be
needed).
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Ishwor Gurung
2009/12/4 Jitendra kumar <jitendra...@gmail.com>:
> Great initiative Pravin dai!
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Pravin Raj Joshi <pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the softwares that are already built I can make an informal list at
>> bvs.edu.np if you all send me the name of the software and its website.
>> Somebody else can make it a formal list at some public site.
>> I know of Jwalanta's products in his website. I have a couple myself,
>> which I will put up.
>> So please lets get more info and I will make the list. I saw that Laxmi
>> wanted to volunteer on this one. So, maybe you and me lets collaborate
>> where we look into the products that people send us the name and link
>> and create the list.
>> Let us make it clear that we want to list all products that we have
>> made, even the smallest of the smallest ones, to add to the bargaining
>> power. So don't feel that your product might be small, just send it in.
>> Remember, drops of water make the ocean and so it is with code. If you
>> dont believe me please read the book "A Commentary on the Sixth Edition
>> Unix Operating System" by J.Lions and you will understand how the
>> smallest of the smallest pieces of code make up a very complex piece of
>> software.
>> Also I would like to make a list of possible (and probably very small)
>> utilities that Nepali people would like to have in their pcs. Maybe we
>> need to take examples from some of the utilities that nepali use on
>> their windows pc. Then we can take up the challenge of building them. I
>> would like to build a few myself.
Nepalinux already is a distro. Nepali Free Software
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Pravin Raj Joshi <pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the softwares that are already built I can make an informal list at
>> bvs.edu.np if you all send me the name of the software and its website.
>> Somebody else can make it a formal list at some public site.
>> I know of Jwalanta's products in his website. I have a couple myself,
>> which I will put up.
>> So please lets get more info and I will make the list. I saw that Laxmi
>> wanted to volunteer on this one. So, maybe you and me lets collaborate
>> where we look into the products that people send us the name and link
>> and create the list.
>> Let us make it clear that we want to list all products that we have
>> made, even the smallest of the smallest ones, to add to the bargaining
>> power. So don't feel that your product might be small, just send it in.
>> Remember, drops of water make the ocean and so it is with code. If you
>> dont believe me please read the book "A Commentary on the Sixth Edition
>> Unix Operating System" by J.Lions and you will understand how the
>> smallest of the smallest pieces of code make up a very complex piece of
>> software.
>> Also I would like to make a list of possible (and probably very small)
>> utilities that Nepali people would like to have in their pcs. Maybe we
>> need to take examples from some of the utilities that nepali use on
>> their windows pc. Then we can take up the challenge of building them. I
>> would like to build a few myself.
developers/admins/packagers/translators could work on that instead
perhaps? :-)
Ubuntu/Fedora is another possibility. These distros could be packaged
up in such a manner that all the debs/rpms be included in Nepali
context (software that will be used by Nepali in Nepali language or
some such) with additional helpful nepali codebase.
Pravin bro is suggesting a rather radical idea because it involves
building a distro with software from ground up (read DRY principle).
Right? Using existing distros as base/s install, all the software can
be had easily (obviously packagers,translators and other help will be
needed).
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Ishwor Gurung
Shakthi Kannan
Dec 4, 2009, 5:30:39 AM12/4/09
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Hi,
Some thoughts below:
--- On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ishwor Gurung
distros will include them when they package it. This way, just
choosing a Gnome or KDE or any other desktop environment will
automatically include your translations.
You could still be using Fedora or Debian or any distro of your
choice, while you get the same interface to use.
SK
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Some thoughts below:
--- On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ishwor Gurung
<ishwor...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Using existing distros as base/s install, all the software can
| be had easily (obviously packagers,translators and other help will be
| needed).
\--
Pushing translation changes to upstream software will be helpful as
| Using existing distros as base/s install, all the software can
| be had easily (obviously packagers,translators and other help will be
| needed).
\--
distros will include them when they package it. This way, just
choosing a Gnome or KDE or any other desktop environment will
automatically include your translations.
You could still be using Fedora or Debian or any distro of your
choice, while you get the same interface to use.
SK
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Ishwor Gurung
Dec 4, 2009, 6:32:27 AM12/4/09
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Hi,
2009/12/4 Shakthi Kannan <shakt...@gmail.com>:
> You could still be using Fedora or Debian or any distro of your
> choice, while you get the same interface to use.
However for the packages that are specific to Nepali context, I feel
that inclusion in the Nepalese distro is a better start than going
with a major distros first.
[...]
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Ishwor Gurung
2009/12/4 Shakthi Kannan <shakt...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Some thoughts below:
>
> --- On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ishwor Gurung
> <ishwor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> | Using existing distros as base/s install, all the software can
> | be had easily (obviously packagers,translators and other help will be
> | needed).
> \--
>
> Pushing translation changes to upstream software will be helpful as
> distros will include them when they package it. This way, just
> choosing a Gnome or KDE or any other desktop environment will
> automatically include your translations.
I concur. Translating packages upstream is definitely one way to go.
>
> Some thoughts below:
>
> --- On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ishwor Gurung
> <ishwor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> | Using existing distros as base/s install, all the software can
> | be had easily (obviously packagers,translators and other help will be
> | needed).
> \--
>
> Pushing translation changes to upstream software will be helpful as
> distros will include them when they package it. This way, just
> choosing a Gnome or KDE or any other desktop environment will
> automatically include your translations.
> You could still be using Fedora or Debian or any distro of your
> choice, while you get the same interface to use.
that inclusion in the Nepalese distro is a better start than going
with a major distros first.
[...]
--
Regards,
Ishwor Gurung
Laxmi Khatiwada
Dec 5, 2009, 6:16:31 AM12/5/09
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साथीहरूको छलफल देखेर अलिअलि जाँगर आउँन थाल्यो । स साना प्याकेज भेला
गर्दै जाने हो भने केही राम्रो
काम गर्न सकिन्छ । जहाँसम्म नयाँ डिस्ट्रोको कुरा छ यो निकै स्रोत साधन र
समय लाग्छ । नेपालीनक्सको हकमा यो कर्नेल वृद्धिमा समस्या हुन्छ होला ।
फेरी नेपालीनक्सको स्वामित्वको कुरा पनि छ । फोस नेपालले फोस अभियानका
सन्दर्भमा नेपाली अनुप्रयोगको विकास गर्न ध्यान दिने हो भने मसँग केही
सोच र लक्षको सीमा छ । प्रत्येक कलेजका विद्यार्थीलाई इन्टर्नसीपमा
उद्देश्यमूलक मोडुल बनाउन प्रोत्साहन गरेर भेला गर्दै जाने हो भने राम्रो
खालको एकल (standalone) अनुप्रयोगको निर्माण हुनसक्छ । त्यसमा कुनै सङ्का
छैन
सङ्का लाग्छ भने म त्यसको जिम्मेवारी लिन सक्छु । सामान्य कुराबाट थाल्ने
हो भने स्वचालित शब्दकोश अनुवाद सजिलै बनाउन सकिन्छ । त्यसले गर्दा
जुनसुकै डिस्ट्रोको स्थानीयकरण सजिलै गर्न सकिन्छ ।
xliff फाइलमा ४० हजार जति अङ्रेजी नेपाली शब्द भर्ने (excell वा spread
बाट पनि हुनसक्छ) हो भने २ जना engineer ले ३ हप्तामा translation code
लेख्न सक्छन् ।
त्यसको तयारी अल्गोरिदम मसँग छ । हाल वाक्य अनुवाद गर्न सकीदैन । त्यसैले
phrase र idioms पनि शब्दकोशमै हाल्नु पर्छ । ४० हजार सट्टा ६० हजारै सही
।
अङ्ग्रेजीको html, xhtml वा xml को lang code जति नेपालीको lang code मा
सारेर www वा कुनै content को शब्द पाठ स्वचालित अनुवाद गर्न सकिन्छ र
पछि हाते-सम्पादन गरेर नेपालीको शुद्दाशुद्धि हेर्नु पर्छ ।
गर्दै जाने हो भने केही राम्रो
काम गर्न सकिन्छ । जहाँसम्म नयाँ डिस्ट्रोको कुरा छ यो निकै स्रोत साधन र
समय लाग्छ । नेपालीनक्सको हकमा यो कर्नेल वृद्धिमा समस्या हुन्छ होला ।
फेरी नेपालीनक्सको स्वामित्वको कुरा पनि छ । फोस नेपालले फोस अभियानका
सन्दर्भमा नेपाली अनुप्रयोगको विकास गर्न ध्यान दिने हो भने मसँग केही
सोच र लक्षको सीमा छ । प्रत्येक कलेजका विद्यार्थीलाई इन्टर्नसीपमा
उद्देश्यमूलक मोडुल बनाउन प्रोत्साहन गरेर भेला गर्दै जाने हो भने राम्रो
खालको एकल (standalone) अनुप्रयोगको निर्माण हुनसक्छ । त्यसमा कुनै सङ्का
छैन
सङ्का लाग्छ भने म त्यसको जिम्मेवारी लिन सक्छु । सामान्य कुराबाट थाल्ने
हो भने स्वचालित शब्दकोश अनुवाद सजिलै बनाउन सकिन्छ । त्यसले गर्दा
जुनसुकै डिस्ट्रोको स्थानीयकरण सजिलै गर्न सकिन्छ ।
xliff फाइलमा ४० हजार जति अङ्रेजी नेपाली शब्द भर्ने (excell वा spread
बाट पनि हुनसक्छ) हो भने २ जना engineer ले ३ हप्तामा translation code
लेख्न सक्छन् ।
त्यसको तयारी अल्गोरिदम मसँग छ । हाल वाक्य अनुवाद गर्न सकीदैन । त्यसैले
phrase र idioms पनि शब्दकोशमै हाल्नु पर्छ । ४० हजार सट्टा ६० हजारै सही
।
अङ्ग्रेजीको html, xhtml वा xml को lang code जति नेपालीको lang code मा
सारेर www वा कुनै content को शब्द पाठ स्वचालित अनुवाद गर्न सकिन्छ र
पछि हाते-सम्पादन गरेर नेपालीको शुद्दाशुद्धि हेर्नु पर्छ ।
साथीहरू योजना बनाएर लाग्ने हो भने नेपालीनक्स भन्दा राम्रो र सीधा
सञ्जालबाटै कर्नेल स्तर वृद्धि गर्न सकिने नेपाली डिस्ट्रोको निर्माण
हुनसक्छ । त्यो क्षमता फोसका युवाहरूसँग छ तर त्यसलाई एकीकृत गरेर भेला
गर्न मात्र मुस्किल छ ।
के गर्ने साथीहरू ?
उदाहरण १
अङ्ग्रेजीको कम्पाइलर अङ्रेजले मात्रै बनाएका होइनन् ।
त्यो त विश्वविद्यालयमा पढ्ने संसार भरिका होनाहार विद्यार्थीले बनाएका हुन् ।
अङ्रेजहरूले विद्यार्थीको अनुसन्धानलाई आफ्नो नाममात्र दिएका हुन् ।
उदाहरण ५ -- थप्दै जानुहोस्
उदाहरण २ -- थप्दै जानुहोस्
उदाहरण ३ -- थप्दै जानुहोस्
उदाहरण ४ -- थप्दै जानुहोस्
जय फोस अभियान
Laxmi Khatiwada
Dec 5, 2009, 6:19:34 AM12/5/09
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माफ गर्नुहोला
जय प्रविधि मुक्ति अभियान
जय प्रविधि मुक्ति अभियान
Lava Kafle
Dec 5, 2009, 10:18:05 PM12/5/09
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We need a universal compiler written in Nepali itself like those by Indian Supercomputers developers did for Hindi. Actually the compiler does not care which language or font was used to create it. For sake of Nepal we could develop that something our of something Nepali inside Nepalilinx.
Oh Laxmi dai, now I remember the talks that we had about fonts, language: nepali newari..in MPP tea time during Gaurav Shrestha's display of his Arts.
thanks
lava.
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Oh Laxmi dai, now I remember the talks that we had about fonts, language: nepali newari..in MPP tea time during Gaurav Shrestha's display of his Arts.
thanks
lava.
2009/12/5 Laxmi Khatiwada <lkhat...@gmail.com>
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Pravin Raj Joshi
Dec 17, 2009, 11:00:00 AM12/17/09
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As I had said before I have started uploading all my old codes for
others to use (if one can find any use for them). In the regard I have
just uploaded first of the codes that I wrote way back (in computer
terms) in 2002. Its a date converter - converts dates from AD to BS and
vice-versa and a bunch of other things.
Its available at http://www.bvs.edu.np/softwares/.
I will comment the code throughout the next 10 days and make it more
usable, but as it is really old and I have not gone back to it in years,
please be patient with me. After this I will upload more codes that I
have written over the years, one by one.
I hope you guys look at them and find something useful.
Pravin
others to use (if one can find any use for them). In the regard I have
just uploaded first of the codes that I wrote way back (in computer
terms) in 2002. Its a date converter - converts dates from AD to BS and
vice-versa and a bunch of other things.
Its available at http://www.bvs.edu.np/softwares/.
I will comment the code throughout the next 10 days and make it more
usable, but as it is really old and I have not gone back to it in years,
please be patient with me. After this I will upload more codes that I
have written over the years, one by one.
I hope you guys look at them and find something useful.
Pravin
Abhudaya Sagar
Dec 18, 2009, 12:12:37 AM12/18/09
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Great job dude.
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ANISH SHRESTHA
Dec 18, 2009, 8:01:10 AM12/18/09
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Hi Pravin Raj Joshi,
I am currently working on developing a Nepali Calender for mobile in J2ME.. As you have already done some work on it, I guess you could be a help for me more. Hope to hear from you,
Bibek Shrestha
Dec 21, 2009, 7:27:20 AM12/21/09
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Can anyone volunteer to port the code in php, register it at github?
An open source library for date conversion would be really useful.
I believe nepali calendar / date conversion has had more than enough implementation but no documented source as to how it works or where the data comes from. In that regards it would be nice to have some proper documentation backed by a source code repository that has codes in variety of languages .net, java, php, python, c, xyz with explanation of its working.
In that regards, is there any nepali date experts in this board? or anyone interested to research more onto this topic?
Btw, I'm looking for a Nepali date api (in php) where i can do
$nepaliDateApi = new NepaliDateApi();
$englishDate = $nepaliDateApi->convertNepaliToEnglish('2066/01/01');
$nepaliDate = $nepaliDateApi->convertEnglishToNepali('2009/12/21');
Best regards
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Himanshu
Dec 21, 2009, 9:27:44 PM12/21/09
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Hi Pravin,
Good work and thanks for sharing the code for your date
converter. Do you mind uploading your code to http://github.com or
Google Code? Also if you don't mind specifying an open source license
for others to use your code would be great!
-Himanshu
Good work and thanks for sharing the code for your date
converter. Do you mind uploading your code to http://github.com or
Google Code? Also if you don't mind specifying an open source license
for others to use your code would be great!
-Himanshu
On Dec 17, 10:00 am, Pravin Raj Joshi <prav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I had said before I have started uploading all my old codes for
> others to use (if one can find any use for them). In the regard I have
> just uploaded first of the codes that I wrote way back (in computer
> terms) in 2002. Its a date converter - converts dates from AD to BS and
> vice-versa and a bunch of other things.
> Its available athttp://www.bvs.edu.np/softwares/.
Nilambar Sharma
Dec 22, 2009, 7:07:35 AM12/22/09
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hello,
Can we make this date converter as PHP class? I need nepali to english
date converter in my project. Is it available now? If not I would help
in conversion in PHP if someone share the ACCURATE algorithm for the
conversion.
Nilambar Sharma
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Bibek Shrestha
Dec 22, 2009, 11:24:37 PM12/22/09
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Hi Nilambar, Prajwal just posted a php class for date conversion. I haven't tested it, but there are sample examples.
Bibek Shrestha
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Nilambar Sharma
Dec 22, 2009, 11:47:52 PM12/22/09
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hello,
thanks for sharing the conversion code.
He has really done appreciable job. kudos to him.
thanks
thanks for sharing the conversion code.
He has really done appreciable job. kudos to him.
thanks
Nilambar Sharma
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