Problem in filing up the NIL TDS Return

[Alok Kumar Goenka]

Dear Sir,

I am unable to fill in a NIL TDS return in the RPU software available in tin_nsdl website. Every time I try validating the return an error file gets generated stating  "NIL challan with no deductee records is not allowed".

Please help me filing the NIL TDS Return.
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[RISHAB JALAN]

You are not liable to file TDS Return when you have not  deducted/paid TDS. 

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[CA. Harsh Jain]

Dear Sir,

According to the New FVU launched i.e. 4.0, we will have to mention atleast one deductee Name & PAN even though its a NIL return.

Hope this will resolve your problem, just mention one deducteee and put the amounts as NIL

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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Alok Kumar Goenka <sudh...@gmail.com> wrote:

[CA. Harsh Jain]

You are right Rishab ji,

But then the Income Tax Department sends Notices for Non-Filing of TDS returns, we know that its not compulsory, but, since the option is there in the software to file NIL returns, hence, its a general practice to file NIL returns to avoid running around the Department to reply to the Notices.

Our various Clients keep receiving Notices for Non-filing of TDS return and hence, they ask us to file NIL returns and are ready to pay our fees to avoid harassment with the IT Dept.

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[P Mukherjee & Co]

Is there any circular or notification regard to this ?

Regards

T. Mukherjee

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[Deepak Jain]

There is no option but to not file the NIL TDS Return. I dont find any circular or notification for this purpose.

 

If the Amount paid/ credited column needs to be put in, and if there exists none, it is impossible to file the NIL TDS Return. Moreover, what is A,B,S, Y etc. flags.

 

The process in RPU as well as TRACES site is too complicated with no proper instructions or helplines.

 

Deepak Jain

[Nirupam Haldar]

I have been advised by experts that even  Nil Return needs to be submitted.
But it is a good idea to refer to the circulars etc.
Regards
Nirupam
Haldar

Sent from my Windows Phone

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From: P Mukherjee & Co
Sent: ‎07-‎10-‎2013 11:21

[RISHAB JALAN]

What about the following mail that says the following, please go through point no.D.

Dear Deductor,

 

You are the esteemed stakeholder of CPC(TDS). As the due date of filing of quarterly TDS statement for second quarter of FY 2013-14 is approaching fast, you are advised to file TDS statement well before due date (15th October for Non Government deductors and 31st October for Government deductors). You are requested to make note of the following facts before filing the quarterly TDS statement:

 

a)      CORRECT REPORTING: Cancellation of TDS statement and deductee row is no longer permissible. Accordingly, it is very important to report correct and valid particulars (TAN of the deductor, Category (Government/Non Government) of the deductor, PAN of the deductees and other particulars of deduction of tax) in the quarterly TDS statement. 

 

b)      Quote correct and valid lower rate TDS certificate in TDS statement wherever the TDS has been deducted at lower/zero rate on the basis of certificate issued by the Assessing Officer

 

c)      Last provisional receipt number to be quoted in regular TDS/TCS statements: While filing new regular (original) TDS statement, it is mandatory to quote the last accepted provisional receipt number of the regular quarterly TDS/TCS statement of any form type

d)      TDS statement can not be filed without quoting any valid challan and deductee row.

e)      Late filing fee, being statutory in nature, can not be waived.

 

f)       Download the PAN master from TRACES and use the same to file new statement to avoid quoting of incorrect and invalid PAN.

 

g)      Validate PAN and name of the fresh deductees from TRACES site before quoting it in TDS statement

 

h)      Download TDS certificate (Form16A) from TRACES (www.tdscpc.gov.in) bearing unique TDS certificate number and issue to the taxpayers within due date

 

i)        File correction statements promptly in case of incomplete and incorrect reporting.

 

j)        Download the justification report to know the details of TDS defaults, if any, on processing of TDS statement

 

k)      Do view your Dashboard regularly to know about your TDS performance.

 

l)     Government deductors should obtain BIN (Book Identification Number) from their Accounts Officer (AIN holder) in time and quote the same correctly in TDS statement.

 

CPC (TDS) is committed to provide best possible services to you.

 

CPC(TDS) Team

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Nirupam Haldar <nirupa...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I have been advised by experts that even  Nil Return needs to be submitted.
But it is a good idea to refer to the circulars etc.
Regards
Nirupam
Haldar

Sent from my Windows Phone

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From: P Mukherjee & Co

Sent: 07-10-2013 11:21

[Puneet Agarwal]

Is it mandatory to file NIL return even if there is no TDS amount. But how NIL return can be filed when the same is not getting validated in the latest RPU 3.7 for filing Form 26Q provided by NSDL. Pl. let us know how to file NIL TDS return.

R.C.Gupta
3, Kapalitola Lane,
Kolkata 700012

On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:37:14 +0530 wrote

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I have been advised by experts that even Nil Return needs to be submitted.

But it is a good idea to refer to the circulars etc.

Regards

Nirupam

Haldar



Sent from my Windows Phone

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Is there any circular or notification regard to this ?



Regards
T. Mukherjee





On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM, RISHAB JALAN

wrote:


You are not liable to file TDS Return when you have not deducted/paid TDS.




On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Alok Kumar Goenka

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[R K Choudhary]

Dear All,

Please find attached the FAQ hosted on the website of the NDSL related to filing of returnTDS, where it is clearly mentioned that filing TDS return in case of no deduction of tax is not mandatory.(Refer Page 2 , that question has been highlighted.)

Thanks n Regards
RK

[souvik poddar]

But the problem is that without any 'PAN no. of deductee' and some amount in 'amount paid/ credited to deductee', the return is showing as 'invalid'.
Hence, it is not possible to file NIL return as per latest format.
Pls suggest.

 

Thanks & regards

Souvik Poddar

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From: Nirupam Haldar <nirupa...@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: [CA RUNGTA PD] Problem in filing up the NIL TDS Return

I have been advised by experts that even  Nil Return needs to be submitted.
But it is a good idea to refer to the circulars etc.
Regards
Nirupam
Haldar

Sent from my Windows Phone

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From: P Mukherjee & Co

Sent: 07-10-2013 11:21

[ghosh...@vsnl.net]

Please refer to FAQ (Clarification regarding 24Q) , where it is mentioned that the filing of Nil statement is not mandatory for 24Q.
Regards,
Partha Pratim Ghosh

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For TDS nil return no Circular etc is necessary. If there is no tax deduction then there is no need to file tds return for the relevant qurt. The scheme of the Act so far tds provisions are concerned supports that. .... Any this is my personal opinion as I have understood the provisions.
CA.DIPAKKUMAR MITRA
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Subject: RE: [CA RUNGTA PD] Problem in filing up the NIL TDS Return

I have been advised by experts that even  Nil Return needs to be submitted.
But it is a good idea to refer to the circulars etc.
Regards
Nirupam
Haldar

Sent from my Windows Phone

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From: P Mukherjee & Co

Sent: 07-10-2013 11:21

[pravesh...@gmail.com]

CBDT has  provided that “TDS statement can not be filed without quoting any valid challan and deductee row. “  Which implies that Nil TDS return is no more permissible.

[Ashis Agarwal]

Dear sir,

TDSCPC website has started a new facility to update declaration for Non filing of TDS statement for deductor. Deductors can update status of TDS/TCS statement to non-filing online after login at TDSCPC website.The benefit of this facility is that you need not file NIL tds/tcs return for a particular quarter/period.Just update your status to non filing of return and stay relax.

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