Gift to Beneficiary Trust

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Rajesh Jain

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Jan 22, 2014, 3:19:39 AM1/22/14
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A child's beneficiary Trust is a separate legal entity. Can the parents or the grandparents of the child be deemed to be relative in terms of Sec 56(2)(v) for making gift to the beneficiary Trust (whether to the corpus or otherwise). The definition of relative specifically mentions the donee to be either Individual or HUF. 


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RAJ SINGHANIA

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Jan 24, 2014, 2:42:46 AM1/24/14
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Dear Rajeshji,

The Answer to your query is in your query itself. A trust is outside the purview of section 56(2)(v) and therefore any amount of gift received by the trust is not taxable under this section. Now, even if the AO treats the trust as an individual (The single minor being the beneficiary), the gift received by the minor from his relatives again cannot be subject to tax u/s 56(2)(v).
 
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Raj Singhania, FCA
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Ankit Agrawal

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Jan 25, 2014, 3:55:21 AM1/25/14
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Dear Rajesh jain Ji,
Section 56(2)(v) is applicable to individual and HUF only. Also if trust is assessed as individual (the child being beneficiary), then also gift received is not taxed as it is exempted as received from relative. 

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CA Ankit Kumar Agrawal

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Gaurav Goenka

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Jan 27, 2014, 1:34:55 AM1/27/14
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SIR,

I HAVE FILED AN ONLINE RETURN OF CHILD BENEFICIARY TRUST , THE DEPARTMENT HAS CHARGED INCOME TAX AT 30%. THE RETURN WAS FILED IN ITR5. THE TAXABILITY OF TRUST SHOULD BE IN THE STATUS OF INDIVIDUAL ? IF YES, HOW SHOULD I FILE A CORRECTION WITH DEPARTMENT?. PLEASE HELP

GAURAV GOENKA  

Jitendra Jain

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Jan 28, 2014, 2:00:56 AM1/28/14
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Dear Sir,
                I have faced the same problem like Mr. Gaurav Goenka. Please suggest.
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CA. Jitendra K. Jain
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RAJ SINGHANIA

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Jan 28, 2014, 1:23:32 AM1/28/14
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Dear Gaurav,

A beneficiary trust is assessed as an AOP. Now in case of an AOP, if any of its member or beneficiary (in your case I presume there is only one beneficiary) is having income in excess of the maximum amount not chargeable to tax (i.e, 2,00,000/-) the applicable rate of tax is at MMR which is 30%. In case minor being the sole beneficiary, if any of his parent's income is in excess of Rs 2,00,000/- then the minor will be considered having income in excess of 2,00,000/- and hence the trust will be liable to tax at MMR. There is no scope of rectification as such in your case. It is a misconception that Taxability of trust should be in the status of Individual. 
 
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Vivek Jaiswal & Co. - Cal

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Jan 28, 2014, 12:50:58 AM1/28/14
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The return is to be filed as an AOP/BOI with fixed ratio among all members. Therefore where the name of the trustees is mentioned in the ITR, please give the sharing ratio of all trustees so that the total comes to 100%

 

This will ensure assessment of Trust as an AOP/BOI along with exemption limits as an individual.

 

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Vivek Jaiswal

 

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SIR,

 

I HAVE FILED AN ONLINE RETURN OF CHILD BENEFICIARY TRUST , THE DEPARTMENT HAS CHARGED INCOME TAX AT 30%. THE RETURN WAS FILED IN ITR5. THE TAXABILITY OF TRUST SHOULD BE IN THE STATUS OF INDIVIDUAL ? IF YES, HOW SHOULD I FILE A CORRECTION WITH DEPARTMENT?. PLEASE HELP

 

GAURAV GOENKA  

On 24 January 2014 13:12, RAJ SINGHANIA <rajsing...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear Rajeshji,

 

The Answer to your query is in your query itself. A trust is outside the purview of section 56(2)(v) and therefore any amount of gift received by the trust is not taxable under this section. Now, even if the AO treats the trust as an individual (The single minor being the beneficiary), the gift received by the minor from his relatives again cannot be subject to tax u/s 56(2)(v).

 

Regards

 

Raj Singhania, FCA
+91-9830227678

On Friday, 24 January 2014 11:14 AM, Rajesh Jain <121....@gmail.com> wrote:

A child's beneficiary Trust is a separate legal entity. Can the parents or the grandparents of the child be deemed to be relative in terms of Sec 56(2)(v) for making gift to the beneficiary Trust (whether to the corpus or otherwise). The definition of relative specifically mentions the donee to be either Individual or HUF. 



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RAJ SINGHANIA

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Jan 29, 2014, 3:52:31 AM1/29/14
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In my view, as the Trustees are not beneficial owners, there cannot be any sharing ratio in between them and only the minor can be 100% beneficiary (As per the clause of the Trust Deed). In case you state that the parents are having a profit sharing of 50%, the said AOP will be having a member who has income in excess of maximum amount not chargeable to tax and therefore the AOP will be taxed at MMR or say 30%. Unless and untill the GTI of both the parents of the minor for whose benefit the Trust is created is below Rs 2 lacs, any such Trust will be assessed as an AOP at MMR.
 
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Raj Singhania, FCA
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On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 1:28 PM, Vivek Jaiswal & Co. - Cal <c...@vjcoca.com> wrote:
Till the time, the minor is a minor, there will be no sharing ratio with the minor, hence you can put the sharing ratio as 50% each (considering the two parents of the minors are trustees).
 
 
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Dear Mr Jaiswal,
 
In case it is a single beneficiary Trust for a minor, what can be the sharing ratios of the Trustees and the minor?
 
 
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Raj Singhania, FCA
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ANIL ANCHALIA

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Jan 29, 2014, 1:30:22 AM1/29/14
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Ecotech

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Jan 30, 2014, 6:48:37 AM1/30/14
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The income of parents is irrelevant. It will be taxed at Individual rates only. Minor cannot claim the Trust income as his income, unless he has right to receive and enjoy the same.

 

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sudeep nopany

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Jan 31, 2014, 2:06:40 AM1/31/14
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how to file such a return ONLINE for assessment year if the g.t.i. exceeds 5 lacs.

Ecotech

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Feb 6, 2014, 8:15:54 AM2/6/14
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Minor is the beneficiary, but he becomes entitled to get the accumulations of income only on attaining majority. Hence, the income of the Beneficiary trust cannot be linked to parents’ income and as such, question of any beneficiary having taxable income does not arise. Such AOP will be assessed at Individual rates only.

 

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Dear Gaurav,

 

A beneficiary trust is assessed as an AOP. Now in case of an AOP, if any of its member or beneficiary (in your case I presume there is only one beneficiary) is having income in excess of the maximum amount not chargeable to tax (i.e, 2,00,000/-) the applicable rate of tax is at MMR which is 30%. In case minor being the sole beneficiary, if any of his parent's income is in excess of Rs 2,00,000/- then the minor will be considered having income in excess of 2,00,000/- and hence the trust will be liable to tax at MMR. There is no scope of rectification as such in your case. It is a misconception that Taxability of trust should be in the status of Individual. 

 

Regards

 

Raj Singhania, FCA
+91-9830227678

On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 11:08 AM, Gaurav Goenka <ggoen...@gmail.com> wrote:

SIR,

 

I HAVE FILED AN ONLINE RETURN OF CHILD BENEFICIARY TRUST , THE DEPARTMENT HAS CHARGED INCOME TAX AT 30%. THE RETURN WAS FILED IN ITR5. THE TAXABILITY OF TRUST SHOULD BE IN THE STATUS OF INDIVIDUAL ? IF YES, HOW SHOULD I FILE A CORRECTION WITH DEPARTMENT?. PLEASE HELP

 

GAURAV GOENKA  

On 24 January 2014 13:12, RAJ SINGHANIA <rajsing...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear Rajeshji,

 

The Answer to your query is in your query itself. A trust is outside the purview of section 56(2)(v) and therefore any amount of gift received by the trust is not taxable under this section. Now, even if the AO treats the trust as an individual (The single minor being the beneficiary), the gift received by the minor from his relatives again cannot be subject to tax u/s 56(2)(v).

 

Regards

 

Raj Singhania, FCA
+91-9830227678

On Friday, 24 January 2014 11:14 AM, Rajesh Jain <121....@gmail.com> wrote:

A child's beneficiary Trust is a separate legal entity. Can the parents or the grandparents of the child be deemed to be relative in terms of Sec 56(2)(v) for making gift to the beneficiary Trust (whether to the corpus or otherwise). The definition of relative specifically mentions the donee to be either Individual or HUF. 

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Vikash Somani

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Feb 8, 2014, 8:55:26 AM2/8/14
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would like to know which form should be used for filling return of a beneficiary trust?


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Ecotech

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Feb 10, 2014, 4:25:19 AM2/10/14
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ITR-5

 

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Ecotech

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Feb 13, 2014, 4:57:55 AM2/13/14
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Trust is AOP, not Individual or HUF. No relatives.

 

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