Q & A: Whether TDS in deductable on Interest based on HP Instalment Basis

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P.D.RUNGTA

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Query:Whether TDS in deductable on Interest based on HP Instalment Basis

Dear Sir,

Will you please let me know whether any interest paid /payable on Loan based on
HP Purchase Basis is subject to TDS or not when the Finance is from Private
Company. .

Whether there is any circular on TDS regarding Deduction of Tax at Source on
Finance

from Private Companies or not .

Pl have your valued opinion on this matter as the AOS' are at present
pressing hard on

TDS matter.

Rehards.

CA. Asim Kumar De

09830154480

NEW DISCUSSION ON THE SUBJECT

Reply:1

since the introduction of service tax, most of the finance companies are entering into loan agreement in the garb of hire purchase agreement. examine the agreement first. u will certainly find that that was a loan agreement.

TDS is deductible in such a case.

lalit kumar agrawalla, fca
Mob. No. 9332014316

Reply:2

If it is hire charges. what about TDS u/s 194 I ?

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Reply:1

Mr de

one has to deduct tds on payment made to private company on a/c of interest
payment even it is on hire.this is as per general provisions and there is no
specific circular as such.

thnks and regds

CA RKRoongta

Reply:2

1061A. Application of section 194A to Hire Purchase Agreements Clarification
One

1. The question of consideration is whether a part of the hire purchase instalment
paid by a hirer to the owner under a hire purchase contract can be deemed to
constitute payment of interest thereby attracting the provisions of section
194A of the Income-tax Act.

2. Section 194A provides that any person, not being an individual or a Hindu
Undivided Family who is responsible for paying to a resident any income by way
of interest other than income chargeable under the head interest on securities
shall, at the time of credit of such income to the account of the payee or at
the time of payment thereof in cash, or by issue of a cheque or draft or by any
other mode, deduct income-tax thereon at the rates in force. The obligation to
make deduction under section 194 would arise in the case of payment of any
income by way of interest.

3. The ex-pression ‘interest’ has been defined in section 2(28A) to mean interest
payable in any manner in respect of any money borrowed or debt incurred
(including a deposit claim or other similar right or obligation) and includes
any service, fee or other charge in respect of the moneys borrowed or debt
incurred in respect of any credit facility which has not

been utilised.

4. It has to be considered whether the payment of any instalment or instalments
under a hire purchase agreement can be said to be by way of interest in respect
of any moneys borrowed or debt incurred. In this context, it has to be borne in
mind that a hire purchase agreement is a

composite transaction made up of two elements bailment and sale. In such an agreement,
the hirer may not be bound to purchase the thing hired. It is a contract
whereby the owner delivers goods to another person upon terms on which the
hirer is to hire them at a fixed periodical rental. The hirer has also the
option purchasing the goods by paying the total amount of the agreed hire at
any time or of returning before the total amount is paid.

What is involved in the present reference is the real nature of the fixed periodical
rental payable under a hire purchase agreement.

5. It may be pointed out that part of the amount of the hire purchase price is
towards the hire and part towards the payment of price. The agreed amount
payable by the hirer in periodical instalments cannot be characterised as
interest payable in any manner within the meaning of

section 2(28A) of the Income-tax Act. It is in the nature of a fixed periodical
rental under which the hire purchase takes place.

6. It is true that the definition of the hire purchase price in section 2(d) of
the Hire Purchase Act, 1972, also refers to any sum payable by the hirer under
the hire purchase agreement by way of deposit or other initial payment or
credit or amounts to be credited to him under such agreement on account of any
such deposit or payment. But such deposit or payment is not

in respect of any money borrowed or debt incurred within the meaning of section
2(28A) of the Income-tax Act.

7. In view of the above, it would appear that the provisions of section 194A
will not be attracted in the case of payment of periodical instalments under a
hire purchase agreement.

Instruction : No. OP 275/9/80-IT(B), dated 25-1-1981 [See Ashok Leyland Finance
Ltd. v. Asstt. CIT [2002] 80 ITD 566 (Chennai).]

Clarification Two

1. ** ** **

2. In a hire-purchase contract the owner delivers goods to another person upon
terms on which the hirer is to hire them at a fixed periodical rental. The hirer
has also the option of purchasing the goods by paying the total amount of
agreed hire at any time or of returning the same before the total amount is
paid. It may be pointed out that part of the amount of the

hire purchase price is towards the hire and part towards the payment of price.
The agreed amount payable by the hirer in periodical instalments cannot,
therefore, be characterised as interest payable in any manner within the
meaning of section 2(28A) of the Income-tax Act, as it is not in respect of any
money borrowed or debt incurred. In this view of the matter

it is clarified that the provisions of section 194A of the Income-tax Act are
not attracted in such transactions.

Instruction : No. 1425, dated 16-11-1981 [See Ashok Leyland’s case (supra)].

jhawar.pa@magma.co.in

Reply:3

Dear Mr.Asim,

Please examine the agreement, whether it is loan agreement or HP agreement.

If it is loan agreement, then TDS applicable.

Regards

PRAVIIN CHAUDHRY

Reply:4

yes,tds is to be deducted if the intt payer i.e.hirer is
otherwise liable for tds ie. if ind/huf,its a/c are subject to tax audit
u/s 44ab.the status of financier whether a company or not is immaterial.the
liability is payer based.

if its a case of lease the rate of deuction is less

 vinod kr.goyal

Reply:5

yes , TDS has to be deducted on hire purchase interest if it
from a pvt company. I have found that such interest paid to 
citibank NBFC is getting TDS deducted from payment made to it and
also has lower TDS certifcicate for it.

thanks

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vinod goyal

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Nov 15, 2011, 8:41:21 AM11/15/11
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dear all,
as i have received requests from querists on the matter of deduction of tds from emi to private financiers,i forward herewith the i.t. department circular issued in this regard  in the case of ashok leyland finance.this shall put to trest all apprehensions on the issue.
 
vinod kr.goyal,f.c.a.,p.g.d. in a.d.r.,sr. partner:v.goyal & associates.,ex chairman:hire purchase and lease association.
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sunil jain

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Nov 16, 2011, 12:59:54 AM11/16/11
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Dear Mr. Goel,
We all are enlighted by your responce to which i tend to amend as under.
WHETHER THIS PROVISION SHALL BE APPLICABLE ONLY TO HIRE PURCHASE AGREEMENTS OR IT SHALL COVER ALL TRANSECTION LIKE LOAN AGIANST PROPERTY OR GOLD OR SIMILAR PROPERTY WHERE THE BORROWER PLEDGED ITS ASSETS AGAINST LOAN WHICH IS REPAYABLE IN MONTHLY INSTALEMENTS COMMONLY KNOWN AS EMI COMRISING BOTH PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST COMPONENTS.
 
CA. SUNIL KUMAR JAIN
 

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vinod goyal

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Nov 17, 2011, 2:51:54 AM11/17/11
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dear all,
yes tds is attracted on lease rentals for assets like transport vehicles /machineries bought under lease rental/emi basis under section 194 I.however, the rate of such tds is very low at the rate of two percent w.e.f.1.10.2009.FURTHER, THE TDS IS APPLICABLE ONLY WHEN SUCH LEASE RENTAL EXCEEDS RS.1,80,000/ IN ONE FINaNCIAL YEAR.one more rider,if the payer is individual or huf whose accounts are not liable to tax audit u/s 44ab, is not liable to deduct such tds.
i hope this clears the doubts.
 
vinod kr.goyal,F.C.A.,P.G.D.IN A.D.R.,SR. PARTNER:V.GOYAL & ASSOCIATES.,EX-CHAIRMAN:HIRE PURCHASE AND LEASE ASSOCIATION.

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Sir 
Please explain the followings:-

It may not be regarded as interest but what about TDS on hire charges payable?
It may be noted that TDS was not deductible on rent for hire of machinery when such instructions were issued?

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Subject: [PDRUNGTA] Whether TDS in deductable on Interest based on HP Instalment Basis-ref. to it circular

vinod goyal

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dear all,
i wish to clarify that the emi paid under gold loan or housing loan (to  lenders other than banks ,housing finance companies regarded as financial institutions which are specifically exempt u/s 194A,) are not covered by the notification cited by me in the case of ashok leyland finance matter.
accordingly, such cases are liable for tds.however, the borrowers being individuals/huf whose accounts are not liable to tax audit u/s 44AB, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO MAKE SUCH TDS.
 
vinod kr.goyal,F.C.A.,P.G.D.IN A.D.R.,SR. PARTNER:V.GOYAL &ASSOCIATES,EX -CHAIRMAN:HIRE PURCHASE AND LEASE ASSOCIATION.

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vinod goyal

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Jul 11, 2012, 9:05:39 AM7/11/12
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dear querist,
your query about applicability of tds in case of hire purchase is answered fully in ashok leylands case reproduced below.accordingly no tds is to be done by payer of instalments
Instruction : No. 1425, dated 16-11-1981 [See Ashok Leyland’s case (sup)

 vinod kr.goyal, f.c.a.,p.g.d. in a.d.r.,ex-chairman:Hire Purchase and Lease association,sr.partner:V.Goyal &Associates

         

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