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Joao Vide

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Jun 6, 2014, 11:02:29 AM6/6/14
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Hi everybody,

sorry for the "mail-storm", but after EFORT a lot has advanced, so we need to focus on FORTE for a little bit now (I think).

Regarding the EEP timeline:
- The draft is at open discussion: everyones is going to present them to their national societies for discussion, so I find it appropriate to discussion with all of you
- Please send me your feedback of your impression of this draft (feel free to pose any question that you have, for more absurd that it may seem)
- My questions at the moment are the following:
1 - Before the final EBOT examination, how are they planning to evaluate progress in skills? Are they going to set guidelines for evaluation to set the standards? Is a central/local monitoring of training centers going to be purposed?
2 - Why is it necessary to attribute a differentiation of FEBOT? Why FEBOT-Uk, FEBOT Switzerland,etc; and not only FEBOT for all countries?

Guys, I'll wait until friday for your replies. If not I'll move forward with FOrTE's comments on EEP draft.

BR
Vide
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Gazi Huri

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Jun 6, 2014, 11:32:44 AM6/6/14
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Hi Vide,
I am glad to hear that you represented FORTE at EEP. I will look at it then send my suggestions.
In addition could you send me the whole list of Board please, including the Portugal guy (UEMS rep)


Thanks
Gazi

Gazi Huri, Asst.Prof
Hacettepe University School of Medicine
Orthopaedics and Traumatology Dep.
06320, Ankara, Turkey
+90 (312) 305 1793

President
FORTE (Federation of Orthopaedics Trainees in Europe)
www.forte-orthopaedics.com

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Nikolaos Paschos

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Jun 6, 2014, 1:28:38 PM6/6/14
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Thanks Vide!

I ‘ll also review the content and I will let you know well before Friday!

Nick

Joao Vide

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Jun 18, 2014, 7:29:30 AM6/18/14
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Hi guys, again!! :)

Sorry for the massacre! But I've just arrived from vacation, so a lot of energy and patience to profit from :)

Since no one made further suggestions, I'm going to send the following remarks to the EEP committee in the name of FOrTE:

1 - Before the final EBOT examination, how is the progress in skills going to be evaluated? 
We think that a standard of evaluation throughout the residency program should be set. To achieve this goal, guidelines for evaluation should be produced, and a monitoring/coaching of training centers and trainers, by a central european board, should be in order.
2 - We feel that a differentiation of the title "FEBOT" (e.g. FEBOT-UK, FEBOT Switzerland,etc) will defeat the purpose of unifying education throughout Europe. We agree each national society should have a strong input in their exams and evaluations, but the end result should be the same for every country - FEBOT.

BR

Vide

Joao Vide

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Jun 18, 2014, 10:38:38 AM6/18/14
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Guys,

final email regarding this subject. Attached you can find the letter I'll send the EEP group.
Gazi, I'll be waiting for your final OK for me to send it.
Until then, suggestions are welcome.

BR,

Vide

PS - I've made a template for letters, based on the one that Gazi made. Improvements are more than welcome.
EEP letter June182014.pdf
Letter template FORTE.docx

Gazi Huri

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Jun 18, 2014, 11:07:54 AM6/18/14
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Dear Joao,
The temple is excellent and better than mine of course. We can use it for our further connections if the other friends approve too

İn addition the letter looks good  and i have no additional suggestions. Please send it.

 Strong work Joao

Warm regards
Gazi

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Joao Vide

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Jun 18, 2014, 12:00:10 PM6/18/14
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Thanks for the appreciation Gazi, it means a lot.
I'll send it now.

Gazi Huri

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Jun 18, 2014, 12:03:34 PM6/18/14
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My pleasure

WR
Gazi

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