Springer Book Series Draft

[Gazi Huri]

Dear All,

You can find the table of contents that I worked on in the attachment. I prepared it completely based on EEP curriculum.

Please review it and send back your suggestions till Monday.(this is the deadline) 

Then I will send it to Lis (springer contact) to proceed with the next step

Tommaso  as you are the educational rep, your are also in charge with this project. Please keep you eye and follow the process closer.

My best

Gazi

Gazi Huri, Asst.Prof
Hacettepe University School of Medicine
Orthopaedics and Traumatology Dep.
06320, Ankara, Turkey
+90 (312) 305 1793

President
FORTE (Federation of Orthopaedics Trainees in Europe)
www.forte-orthopaedics.com

[Gazi Huri]

Thanks Nick,

Tomasso is our new edicational representative so i would like him to work with us about the project. As it is an financial issue as well İ want to be informed about every step please. We will co-lead the project together hence  it is not an individual project. Only one person can not manage such a big project i guess. 

The only thing that springer has is just a paper sheet. İ am not sure if she has the Old draft. Because i asked her what documentbdoes she has and she only showed me that piece of paper. So i think we have to work the one that i prepared. İt is not an inconsistency. 

İn addition please cc your emails that you send to Liz as well. We didnt get any cc about your past actions with Springer. 

Also could you please send us the aggrements that you signed with springer. 

Looking forward to getting your conclusions on Monday

Thanks once again for your helps

My best

Gazi

iPhone'umdan gönderildi

6 Haz 2014 tarihinde 21:46 saatinde, Nikolaos Paschos <paschos....@gmail.com> şunları yazdı:

Thank you Gazi,

I will send you my feedback.

Also, I want to ask the committee if it is wise to completely change the table of contents as agreed by Enis.

I am afraid that they may consider that we are inconsistent.

I will meet Liz this week, so I would appreciate your feedback by Monday. i suggest to keep the draft of the curriculum and listen what Springer will have to say (I do not think that they will have a problem).

As agreed, I will lead this project, so Tommaso please let me know how we can collaborate.

Thank you,

Nick

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FORTE" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to forte-board...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

<Springer book table of contents.docx>

[Enis Guryel]

Just be careful you don't completely copy EEP as those documents are not necessarily for public use and you may get into copyright issues! 

Enis

On 7 Jun 2014, at 00:37, "Nikolaos Paschos, M.D., Ph.D." <paschos....@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Gazi,

I am happy to hear that you agree that this should be a team work.

It is always important to be a team, not just a person, and of course we will all work together on this!

I have always worked as part of a team, being completely clear and honest, and i have always informed you about everything!!!

Hope that everybody will follow my example!

I also thank you for recognizing the contribution that I have made in this project re-initiating something that was completely lost.

I will (as always) update you on the results of the meeting. 

Thank you

Nick

[Gazi Huri]

Good point Enis, thanks

İ already added and changed thd titkes in its current form but i think we should use synonyms of the other titles as well. 

Mg best

Gazi

iPhone'umdan gönderildi

7 Haz 2014 tarihinde 20:46 saatinde, Enis Guryel <enisg...@doctors.org.uk> şunları yazdı:

[Joao Vide]

Hi everyone,

I've just read the work that Gazi made. In my understanding this is very good. But Enis made a good point. We can't copy it, but we can overcome this problem with synonyms and similar strategies as was stated. Thanks Gazi for making such a fast job.

Also, as everything within FORTE, this is a team job. Making a book will certainly require an effort from all of us. And we have to make a real one so this book is a big success. This is of the upmost importance because it will be a reflex of who we are and, if well built, it will bring us the recognition and money that we're lacking. Nick was the great resuscitator of this project and I agree we should follow his lead. Please include has many people has you need. 

With the upcoming change in the constitution we have the power to create a separate Book Committee, if you feel that it is needed.

Everybody should keep everyone informed of their projects development. This is quite obvious I know, but it's always worth to underline. Keep up the good work.

Vide

[Gazi Huri]

Hi Nick, 

I like the final format of that two chapters. Now it is becoming a real group work. 

I think we can proceed with that format.

And  you should use that general orthopedics and hip format in the tomorrow Springer meeting. 

Then we could adjust and finalize the rest all chapters before we send it to Springer.

Looking forward to hearing about the Springer meeting tomorrow

My best

Gazi

Gazi Huri, Asst.Prof
Hacettepe University School of Medicine
Orthopaedics and Traumatology Dep.
06320, Ankara, Turkey
+90 (312) 305 1793

President
FORTE (Federation of Orthopaedics Trainees in Europe)
www.forte-orthopaedics.com

8 Haz 2014 tarihinde 07:38 saatinde, Nikolaos Paschos, M.D., Ph.D. <paschos....@gmail.com> şunları yazdı:

Dear all,

I agree with Enis that the EEP should act as a strategy base and we need to be very careful not to just copy that.

Please find a draft where I incorporated Gazi’s Proposal with some changes in the terminology.

Also, we need to be aware that the Orthopaedic Textbook of Prof Bentley  was released by Springer and we need to be very careful not to overlap with this. I had the chance to see the book and it is a very good and detailed work. I think that there is no point to make another conventional textbook (especially since there are so many of them) and it would be much harder for us.

Furthermore, after looking at the responses of the Residents in the Survey, I believe that in order to make this a successful project we need to prepare a book that would serve as a study guide for residents aiming to prepare them for the exams (either the National or the EBOT exams).

For this reason, I suggest the following structure for each specific content Book:

Short description of the disorder (incidence, etiology)

Description of the clinical appearance of the disorder

Description of the treatment (conservative, operative approach)

New knowledge about the disease

2-3 case studies

30-50 Questions for review

References for further study

I organized the table of contents according to this structure for General Orthopaedics and Hip Fractures. 

Please let me know what you think about the structure and how we can improve it.

If everybody agrees, then we can re-organize the rest of the contents in this scheme. 

Within the next days, I will analyze the results of the survey and I will let you know about the findings.

I am really excited about this work, and I think that we need to take advantage of the momentum to make this book something that will help all residents and will make FORTE even stronger!

Looking forward to your comments!

Thank you,

Nick

-       

<Springer FORTE book table of contents June 8th 2014.docx>

[Gazi Huri]

Hi Nick, 

I like the final format of that two chapters. Now it is becoming a real group work. 

I think we can proceed with that format.

And  you should use that general orthopedics and hip format in the tomorrow Springer meeting. 

Then we could adjust and finalize the rest all chapters before we send it to Springer.

Looking forward to hearing about the Springer meeting tomorrow

My best

Gazi

Gazi Huri, Asst.Prof
Hacettepe University School of Medicine
Orthopaedics and Traumatology Dep.
06320, Ankara, Turkey
+90 (312) 305 1793

President
FORTE (Federation of Orthopaedics Trainees in Europe)
www.forte-orthopaedics.com

[João Vide]

Nick,

In my opinion it's perfect. Sure some issues will come along as we progress, but I think it's ready to start discussion with springer!

Great work!

Enviado do meu iPhone

[Gazi Huri]

Hi Guys,

Even it is a quite limited survey , the results may be concluded as  it is a good project to proceed with book series. Thanks Nick for summarizing the survey.

Therefore I have added a new column at the end of the table that Caglar and Vide have shared through Google docs. In that column I kindly ask you guys to put your opinions what book topics do you think should be better to start up.

Please find it:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jscnhp9T3AZqVQhuHn_CMgdGIcvhJT55AvR8SE1bZjA/edit?pli=1#gid=0

Could you please out your decision by the end of 20th June?

Then we can finalize the table of contents

My best

Gazi

  

In terms of 

Gazi Huri, Asst.Prof
Hacettepe University School of Medicine
Orthopaedics and Traumatology Dep.
06320, Ankara, Turkey
+90 (312) 305 1793

President
FORTE (Federation of Orthopaedics Trainees in Europe)
www.forte-orthopaedics.com

12 Haz 2014 tarihinde 15:50 saatinde, Nikolaos Paschos <paschos....@gmail.com> şunları yazdı:

Dear all,

Thank you for your constructive comments and thoughts in a very short notice!
The meeting with Springer went well.
I proposed the contents as the FORTE board agreed. They were fine with the format that I showed them (but they wanted to make sure that we do not copy other things). I used data from the survey to support the idea for a study guide.
They express worries to initiate more than 3 books at the same time. The reasoning was that the content will not be uniform and that it is not feasible and will not have the time to promote them all.
So, the goal is to start with 3 books with the aim to have them ready by the end of March.
Springer will see the results of the survey and they will contact me for their understanding of the findings.
I will start preparing a draft for the table of contents in the coming weeks and I will send it to you for your comments/input.
Please find the survey results attached and please let me know of your thoughts!!
Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you,

Nick


On Jun 10, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Tommaso Bonanzinga <t.bona...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,
I apologize for my delay but i was out of town during the week-end, you all made a fantastic and very quick job.
I main proposal is too keep the book as simple as possible, I mean if should be used to prepare for exams either national or Eurpean the knowledge should be basic like an handbook type not like a new campbell. So I think it should provide general information and guidance on diagnosis and treatment.
Further I wouldl keep fractures separate from orthopaedics, so something like
general
then a book for each joint
then fractures
tumors
children
those are just personal suggestions and I know I was late, but my concern is not to provide a book for consultation but for actual study to be eventually implemented with further personal and specific consultuation of campbell or pubmed
waiting on your reply
my best
tommaso

[Joao Vide]

Hi guys,

I've been on vacations, so I'm sorry for the silence!

In my opinion maybe we should start with more generic books, so the the first 2 books to come out should be Gen Ortho and Gen Trauma. If we're to start with 3 books at the same time, then we should start with these 2 and another one (maybe hip, but anyone will do).

Sorry for not updating the table, but I wasn't able to do it! I don't now if the problem is from the internet connection at the airport, but I'll try it tomorrow when I arrive home.

Keep up the strong work guys!

[Joao Vide]

I Nick,

I agree that there's no rush in this, but we know we either reply quick, or the email falls so down in our list that we forget it. So please try to reply quickly guys! You can find my suggestions attached. 

Good work!

2014-06-18 2:23 GMT+01:00 Nikolaos Paschos, M.D., Ph.D. <paschos....@gmail.com>:

Hi all,

I believe that we can start preparing 3 books, so as to have 2 ready for sure.

Based on my experience, I agree with Vide, it is better to start a general book for sure, for example General Orthopaedics.

The other book can be either a specific one, but it need to be something that would attract the interest (like Knee, Shoulder, Hip,) or a general too (like Trauma, or Tumor).

We have ready the General Orthopaedics and the Hip, so we can start from these and add a third one.

Also, it is important to have a detailed discussion about this, in an organized manner. Also, we need to have a guideline/justification as a base for our decision.

For this reason, I generated an excel file with everybody’s name on, so as everybody to propose up to 5 titles (we will start only with 2 or 3) and comment/justify them.

I would like to hear everybody’s opinion on this, so I think that the end of this week is too soon! 

Also, there is no urgency in deciding, we have time for this task, and there are so many other things going on at the same time, so please respond the latest by the 5th of July with your proposal (and justifications for these). 

Please comment why you consider good idea a proposed title and why not!!

Please everybody NEEDS to participate!

Please note the new deadline for 5th of July, so EVERYONE will share his thoughts.

I am looking forward for your input. 

Thank you,

Nick