[FITS] Created: (FL-2921) Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)

[Roelof Wobben (FITS)]

Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
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Key: FL-2921
URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
Project: Foresight Linux
Issue Type: Bug
Security Level: Public (Everyone can see this issue)
Components: Base Operating System
Affects Versions: 2.5.0
Reporter: Roelof Wobben
Assignee: Distro
Priority: Critical


When I install Grub on the mbr and do a reboot I see that the initrd is packed out and nothing happens for several minutes.

When I install Grub on sda1 and use the Windows bootloader then I see Grub with a blinking stripe.

So for me Foresight is a no for me.

Roelof


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[Roelof Wobben (FITS)]

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Roelof Wobben commented on FL-2921:
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On the 2.5.3 disk the booting of Grub went without any problem.

Roelof

> Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Key: FL-2921
> URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
> Project: Foresight Linux
> Issue Type: Bug

> Security Level: Public(Everyone can see this issue)

[Roelof Wobben (FITS)]

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Roelof Wobben commented on FL-2921:
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When I want to chainload Grub with Easybcd I only see Grub with a blinking stripe again.
It looks to me that the installer cannot install grub well when not installing on the mbr but on a partition.

Roelof

> Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Key: FL-2921
> URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
> Project: Foresight Linux
> Issue Type: Bug

> Security Level: Public(Everyone can see this issue)

[Roelof Wobben (FITS)]

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Roelof Wobben commented on FL-2921:
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I did a reinstall where I did put Grub on /dev/sda1 and now Foresight is not booting at all.
The only thing I see is Grub with a blinling stripe.

So it looks more and more that there is a big problem with the installer and grub not on the MBR.

I hope this can be solved soon.

One soution can be that Grub2 is installed but I do not know if Foresight has Grub2.

Roelof

> Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Key: FL-2921
> URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
> Project: Foresight Linux
> Issue Type: Bug

> Security Level: Public(Everyone can see this issue)

[ermo | Rune Morling (FITS)]

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ermo | Rune Morling commented on FL-2921:
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This probably not the answer you want to hear, but you are encouraged to NOT use the current (broken) installer.

Instead, you are encouraged to follow the [power user install HOWTO|http://wiki.foresightlinux.org/wiki/display/docs/Foresight+Linux+power+user+install+HOWTO] and using extlinux, which is the preferred bootloader for FL and which does work with e.g. EasyBCD.

> Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Key: FL-2921
> URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
> Project: Foresight Linux
> Issue Type: Bug

> Security Level: Public(Everyone can see this issue)

[Roelof Wobben (FITS)]

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Roelof Wobben commented on FL-2921:
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Oke,

I never get Easybcd work with extlinux.
Is there a sort of manual for it ?

Roelof

> Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Key: FL-2921
> URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
> Project: Foresight Linux
> Issue Type: Bug

> Security Level: Public(Everyone can see this issue)

[ermo | Rune Morling (FITS)]

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ermo | Rune Morling commented on FL-2921:
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First, you install Windows such that it manages the bootsector.

Then, depending on the partition layout you want, you create a primary partition which contains /boot (it can also contain more than that, but the important part is that it contains /boot). You boot off a rescuecd, mount the /boot parition and the rest of of FL, and then you initialize the extlinux install per the install guide, except you DO NOT install the 440 bytes of extlinux mbr.bin anywhere.

So:

{code}
## (imagine you're inside the FL chroot at this point with the correct partitions mounted)
## First, you run bootman, which will add the correct kernel boot entries to the extlinux configuration file
# bootman
## Then, you ensure that extlinux knows its own location on the primary partition on which /boot resides
## For our purposes, let's pretend that Windows lives in /dev/sda1 and the entire FL install is in /dev/sda2
## such that extlinux lives in /boot/extlinux in /dev/sda2
# extlinux -i /boot/extlinux/
## now reboot back to windows and fire up EasyBCD
{code}

Back in Windows, you point EasyBCD towards the /dev/sda2 partition and use the 'syslinux' bootloader option and save/update the configuration.

And that should be it. :)

> Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Key: FL-2921
> URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
> Project: Foresight Linux
> Issue Type: Bug

> Security Level: Public(Everyone can see this issue)

[ermo | Rune Morling (FITS)]

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ermo | Rune Morling edited comment on FL-2921 at 11/2/13 12:02 PM:
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First, you install Windows such that it manages the bootsector.

Then, depending on the partition layout you want, you create a primary partition which contains {{/boot}} (it can also contain more than that, but the important part is that it contains {{/boot}}). You boot off a rescuecd, mount the {{/boot}} parition and the rest of of FL, and then you initialize the extlinux install per the install guide, except you DO NOT install the 440 bytes of extlinux's {{mbr.bin}} anywhere.

So:

{code}
## (imagine you're inside the FL chroot at this point with the correct partitions mounted)
## First, you run bootman, which will add the correct kernel boot entries to the extlinux configuration file
# bootman
## Then, you ensure that extlinux knows its own location on the primary partition on which /boot resides
## For our purposes, let's pretend that Windows lives in /dev/sda1 and the entire FL install is in /dev/sda2
## such that extlinux lives in /boot/extlinux in /dev/sda2
# extlinux -i /boot/extlinux/
## now reboot back to windows and fire up EasyBCD
{code}

Back in Windows, you point EasyBCD towards the {{/dev/sda2}} partition and use the 'syslinux' bootloader option and save/update the configuration.

And that should be it. :)

was (Author: ermo):

First, you install Windows such that it manages the bootsector.

Then, depending on the partition layout you want, you create a primary partition which contains /boot (it can also contain more than that, but the important part is that it contains /boot). You boot off a rescuecd, mount the /boot parition and the rest of of FL, and then you initialize the extlinux install per the install guide, except you DO NOT install the 440 bytes of extlinux mbr.bin anywhere.

So:

{code}
## (imagine you're inside the FL chroot at this point with the correct partitions mounted)
## First, you run bootman, which will add the correct kernel boot entries to the extlinux configuration file
# bootman
## Then, you ensure that extlinux knows its own location on the primary partition on which /boot resides
## For our purposes, let's pretend that Windows lives in /dev/sda1 and the entire FL install is in /dev/sda2
## such that extlinux lives in /boot/extlinux in /dev/sda2
# extlinux -i /boot/extlinux/
## now reboot back to windows and fire up EasyBCD
{code}

Back in Windows, you point EasyBCD towards the /dev/sda2 partition and use the 'syslinux' bootloader option and save/update the configuration.

And that should be it. :)

> Foresight does not boot with Grub (cd 2.5.0)
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Key: FL-2921
> URL: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/jira/browse/FL-2921
> Project: Foresight Linux
> Issue Type: Bug

> Security Level: Public(Everyone can see this issue)