Terrorism of Israel an Eye opener!!!!

[Kunal Majumder]

Friends, this may sound a very 'third world'  view, but my Muslim friends on the streets of Delhi are telling me that Israel has successfully ensured that Islamic terrorism continues to haunt the West and secular nations like India for the next few decades! - Kunal

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Brazilian cartoonist Carlos Latuff creates artworks that call on the world to condemn Israeli holocaust of Gaza Nepos Libertas's blog


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Carlos Latuff's statement:
I'd like to beg all viewers to spread this image anywhere, as a way to expose Israeli war crimes against Palestinians. Use it on t-shirts, posters, banners. Reproduce it in zines, papers, magazines, and make it visible everywhere. Here is the high-resolution version for printing purposes: [ link ]
Thank you in the name of every suffering Palestinian.





































 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Tufail Ahmad <tufai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, we should not be partisans. Especially giving total clean chit to Hamas in the name of history means we do not want to resolve the issue or think of  a way forward.  I have been thinking about possible principles on the basis of which to think of a way forward: historical principle, and ethical/justice principle. If we insist on the historical principle, it means reversing history and a friend of mine came with a blunt response -- an insistence on historical principle will mean that Saudi Arabi should be handed over to Jews. However, an ethical/justice principle too takes us backward to history, though all who are responsible must be punished. A third possible principle could be to think of a pragmatic principle -- on the basis of which to think about. I am wondering if some of us have more thoughts on this issue.  

 

Meanwhile I am quoting a response that I received from Obaid Siddiqui Sb. but was not cc'ed to all:

 

''If we really want to make this world a safer place for the generations to come we need to unite against all forms of terrorism. Terrorism practiced by Hamas is no different from the terrorism practiced by the one and only democratically elected government of the Middle East and Gulf: Israel. Both disrespect the human rights of innocent people and both are using terror to subjugate each other. A similar situation is developing in our part of the world where terrorists operating from Pakistan are trying to disrupt the normal life in India. I am not a prophet and I don't want to prophesize. But I believe that very soon the entire world will join hands to wipe out all terrorists and all forms of terrorism from the face of earth. This is the only way out for the overwhelming majority of peace loving people around the world.''

 

Best wishes

 

Tufail Ahmad

 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Paul R. Brass <br...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

The scenes are horrifying. The entire situation is disastrous. Let us not make it worse by rehashing old arguments and so-called "history" about who did what and why.

 

There is a solution, but it requires the active, forceful, and insistent intervention of the United States and the U.N. The U. S. has to stop its total backing for almost anything Israel does. (The Clintons might be able to do something. Clinton himself almost succeeded 8 years ago.)

 

But, there is an obvious cycle that also has to be stopped: Israel controls the border to prevent suicide bombings, Hamas sends rockets, Israel attacks (and with the permission of the United States), etc. . . Not to mention the other side, in Lebanon.

 

A large UN force also has to be put in place, with real troops, a substantial active force, from the European Union. And every violation of a ceasefire has to be punished, including suicide bombings traced to the sources that send the bombers forward. (They themselves are probably victims who have lost family members and seek revenge, so that in itself is part of the cyle.)

 

And, educated Jews and Muslims need to stand together on these matters. I myself have family in Israel.

 

Paul R. Brass

----- Original Message -----

From: Seema Mustafa

It has nothing to do with Hamas, that is just an excuse. If you read the history of Israel, and follow the debates and the statements it will be clear that a decision was taken to get rid of the Arabs at the very inception. Hamas has made strategic mistakes, but Hamas is certainly not the reason for the violence that has a consistent pattern and strategy behind it and has nothing to do with Israel's security. Do not be fooled by the propaganda, read and understand for yourself

Seema Mustafa

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Tufail Ahmad <tufai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hamas will not accept Israel's right to exist and the fighting will continue; this is the lesson from the past six decades or so. Is there a way forward? - just talks? wipe off Israel, as Ahmedinejad says? convince Hamas to co-exist?  

 

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Qurban Ali <qurb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Being  a human being atleast see it once!!!!

Thanks and Regards,
Qurban Ali

[owen howell]

Yes, and isn't it interesting that the recent death of the Hamas minister was simply dismissed as an accident while 'retaliating' against rockets supposedly fired into Israel. Even though there is no evidence to support this. Assassination perhaps? --- On Fri, 16/1/09, Kunal Majumder <majumd...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Kunal Majumder]

Perhaps, yes. What shocks me more is the unashamed violation of human rights and direction from the UN. Jews have suffered a lot during the second world war. They should understand that killing of innocent people will only lead to further violence in the region and the larger world. May be they just wanted to teach Hamas a lesson but what they have done has antagonised the whole Islamic world.

Tough times ahead for all of us...especially ones living in multicultural societies like the US, UK and India.

2009/1/18 owen howell <op...@yahoo.co.uk>

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[owen howell]

I agree, but the trouble is that these abuses have more to do with rapacious military power and economic starvation (ghettoisation as a pretext for continuous war and war-business), than grass-roots Judaism (although the international Zionist lobby is about as vile as they come).   I think we can level criticism against Israel without attacking Judaism per se and without being liable to charges of anti-semitism.   Another problem is, as journalists, if we dare to question the media values which continue to reproduce these lies - straight from government mouths to Reuters to the newsroom, we are accused of 'subjectivity' or 'editorialising', which, on the face of it, has nothing to do with truth, just with the risk of being sued. To uncover facts we have to use our minds: an ability which most journalists are incapable of or at least unwilling to use.