Several players who use Saitek Cyborg Evo Force joystick reported serious problems with their devices, including drivers crash when attempting to launch the game. We bought this model to check this issue and found out that 64-bit drivers may install and/or function incorrectly, they could crash even in the Windows control panel when attempting the FFB test. We contacted Saitek and asked them to investigate the issue and they suggested us to use the following instruction. This way the drivers installed fine and joystick functions in the game.
Excellent ffb support from both parties. Actually ffb is a big part of flying Il2 for me. I'd love to see more attention paid to ffb devices. It adds a whole new dimension, and to be honest, it also adds something of an advantage in dogfighting as you can feel stall onset better.
Welcome to the Saitek Community! We understand you need assistance with your Cyborg Evo Force. The Windows 8.1 driver is the newest driver we have available. it should work for what you need, but we cannot guarantee it. We would have the windows 10 driver, but Microsoft has not released any for Windows 10 yet for us to get ahold of. The plugins available are to help external devices to interact with the games/functions in the games. If you need additional assistance, please feel free to reply back and we will be happy to help!
problem causes force feedback driver from saitek (Saitek Cyborg Evo force (USB) 6.0.4.1). If I delete saitek drivers and leave microsoft drivers or just saitek driver for joystick (not ffb) then it works, but without force feedback. Also if I try calibrate saitek cyborg in control panel and test ffb, program fails.
Kudos to the devs for posting a temp fix. BOOO at Saitek for not releasing updated drivers for the stick. I just picked one up brand new for $30. Using win8 driver installation software I actually got to see that the FFB on this stick is fully functional as it tried to shake itself off my stick platform. But, going to that same testing page through "usb game controllers" in control panel it just crashes as soon as I hit a button with "Test Force Feedback" checked. All it does is centering force.. not working in sims I've played. But.. again.. the driver installer software allows me to run the test program so I feel like..yes..this thing could actually work in windows 10 if saitek would figure out what is causing it to crash and provided a driver update. But seeing how they dont sell these anymore.. I'm not getting my hopes up.
Had a win7 pro 64-bit sitting around on cd.. created a partition and now have dualboot win10/win7. Reinstalled IL-2 BoS in win7 and stick works fine. Wish saitek would own up and release a driver update for win10 for the people who still have these.. but..if you have access to an older version of windows.. this works. A bit impractical if you aren't already using a dual boot setup or don't have a copy of win7 laying around.
Again kudos to the devs.. anybody interested in getting theirs working should prob contact saitek just to show interest in an updated driver.. and on top of that I'd probably send an email to Logitech asking to start taking over driver support for saitek products including the Evo Force, as honestly.. logitech software has always worked fine for me unlike my experience with many saitek products.
I found that the problem with IL-2 BoS is the fact it is purely 64-bits. Games that still work with Cyborg Evo are using SAI2FFB5.DLL that is a 32-bits DLL, these games are 32-bits indeed. Games that are 64-bits call FFB using SAIQFFB5.DLL, a 64-bits DLL, and there is the problem for CTD. I'm trying to work around with vJoy and UCR, but couldn't find a way to remap FFB effects received from vJoy to Cyborg EVO Force yet.
Guess what, installed BoS yesterday and tried for 7 hours to get this simulation to run, but no joy (( Today I find that because I use Saitek Cyborg Evo FF stick it is causing BoS to crash. Can't fly BoS. What a shame ((
My Saitek Cyborg Evo FF stick works fine with DCS and CloD, so why this problem with BoS? The publicised solution, above, appears not to work. I am not flying without FF and have a stock of Saitek Cyborg Evo FF sticks in the cupboard to see me through the next 10 years or so.
Please do not give up on BOS, BOK or hopefully Pacific just yet. As the person who introduced me to CLOD, I would certainly enjoy the opportunity of winging up with you in BOS. I'm sure a solution is round the corner.
Thank you for your kind words. I have sent you a PM. I was very much looking forward to coming back to BoX, but hay-ho things might change and a solution for FF might turn up. Who knows, perhaps a company will start developing a new model FF stick for sale with more up-to-date technology.
Talisman, I know this is probably not what you want to hear but I had a Cyborg Evo FF for years and I really like force feedback. Then I got myself a Microsoft FFB 2 and the difference was night and day.
Thanks Arthur, but I am very attached to my Saitek FF. I am happy with the FF and the Saitek has more additional control features on the stick, which is what I am used to. When it is set up well, I think the Saitek cyborg evo FF stick is great, good value for the money and they seem more freely available 2nd hand; perhaps because a lot of people don't seem to find them easy to set up and get on with. I just wish someone would manufacture a new model off FF joystick. Shame the Logitech FF was not so much of a success and I don't want to spend money on a stick only to have to carry out a modification to it.
I decided to take you advice and go for it. I have ordered Microsoft FF stick on ebay today. Any tips you may have on unboxing and set up would be greatly appreciated. Is the disc needed? Will I need to get latest drives from somewhere, or will my PC automatically detect what is needed and point me in the right direction?
Are you saying you bought a stick you do not want? Im back near Bicester for xmas if a good stick but not FF back that you wanted. How much mate? Happy to help and buy off you if it keeps you with BOS. I use 3D Pro so if the stick is good happy to get without ForceFeedBack. PM me mate.
OK, no joy with Saitek cyborg evo FF joystick and drivers, but luckily for me a friend has given me a Microsoft FF2 joystick, so missions will launch for me now and I have the game up and running. However, game still crashes to desktop a lot when in the settings menu, particularly when trying to assign or adjust axis settings; very frustrating. On the bright side, the flying is great and I love the Kuban map on MP servers
I use a MS FFB2 and in my opinion the range of force is better managed in CloD. The FF effects in BoS saturate forces too fast. In Clod, I really appreciate the very soft forces at low speed and really hard at high speed.
I've been away from sim flying for several years, my beloved X65f has been tucked away in it's original packaging waiting to break free. Building a new system for DCS and would like to know what drivers and software to use for Win10.
Love the x65f, been using it for years don't see a reason to change it. Using 7053 as well, only problem I had was intially reloading the software after a rebuild but got round it after searching the web.
Just get mine out of storage also and couldnt get the software to work, the Joystick works with windows however the profile editor/software can't be installed properly. Any of you got his working on windows 10 21H2?
I have a Saitek Pro Flight Yoke system, Radio, switch and auto stack which works when plugged into Windows 7.However I have bought a new gaming PC with windows 10 and even though I have downloaded the latest drivers for these products (64-bit Windows 10) from Saitek/Madcatz site I cannot get past the autorun screen where it asks (and shows a picture) to install the USB connection. The NEXT button is greyed out and I cannot install.I have searched the internet but cannot find a solution.
There really are times when I have to bite my lip (or take my teeth out and suck it), over the vagaries and inconsistencies of certain software and OS's.... Thankfully, it being Christmas, I can almost even forgive Saitek and MS, well ....nearly almost, and I shall refrain from kicking my over-stuffed Rio in the 'catnips'.
I've been using the Saitek Pro Flight System with FSX for 2 years. Now all of a sudden FSX won't recognize the yoke at all. The rudder pedals work OK. I have contacted Logitech and have got no help. I've been trying for a month now and no luck. I have a support ticket in progress, but get no help. Logitech tells me it is a Saitek problem and supposedly have forwarded it to them with no avail. I am at my wits end. I decided that maybe my yoke had just died. I ordered a new yoke system and have installed the software etc. but the same thing is happening. FSX just will not recognize the yoke system. Anyone know where I can go and get some help. In device manager it is shown as an unknown device. I have tried to reinstall drivers but windows 10 can't install drivers for the system. What is going on? I thought this system was supposed to be plug and play. What a joke........ mjstep...@charter.net
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