permanganate as a sanitizer

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GWR- HygieneCheck Department

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Sep 12, 2008, 11:25:31 AM9/12/08
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Dear all,

I have found study on lettuce with original count of 7log CFU of  mesophilic bacteria/g.  The lettuce was rinsed and soaked it in a solution of potassium permanganate with a concentration of 25ppm and a soaking time of 2mn.  The soaking process reduced the total population of aerobic bacteria and total coliforms by nearly 2 logs. The source also indicates that it’s pinkish color makes it easier to detect residues at the final rinse.

 

Is potassium permanganate acceptable as a fruit and vegetable sanitizer?

Are there any regulations concerning this issue?

 

Thanks

 

 

Karen KHOURY

Food Safety Consultant - Trainer

 

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bobby krishna

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Sep 13, 2008, 4:25:12 AM9/13/08
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Dear Karen,
 
1. KMnO4 has strong oxidising power that kills the bacteria. It is widely used for water disinfection but not as cost effective as chlorine I guess.
It reduces odour from organic and inorganic material in water, but at the same to gets oxidised and inactivated by organic matter. The colour is also a disadvantge sometime.
 
2. It might be effective against coliforms, but we will have to look at studies that are specific to pathogenic organisms attached to lettuce surfce. E.Coli O 157: H7, for example is difficult to kill and normal sanitisers dont give more than 2 log reduction.
 
3. KMnO4 is widely used in India to disinfect well water.  It is also used by dentists I guess to disinfect mouth before pulling the tooth!
 
4. I dont think there are any health effects at 20 PPM. EPA has approved KMnOas a disinfectant for water.
 
 Regards
 
Bobby

shawal kota

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Sep 13, 2008, 6:21:40 AM9/13/08
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Hi Karen
As per my knowledge now a days nobody prefer using potassium permanganate as disinfectant due to its chemical nature of impacting colour and taste. Usually Sodium or Potassium hypochlorite has been used as disinfectant.
Its recommended in 50 ppm of available chlorine for 20 mincontact time or 100 ppm available chorine of 10 min.
 
regards
Sahwal

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o snyder

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Sep 13, 2008, 10:10:10 AM9/13/08
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Bobby,

If you do an internet toxicity search for KMnO4, you find that it has not been approved by the FDA for use with food because of toxicity questions.  Yes, it is used in a lot of places in the world, but other chemicals are less toxic.

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Sep 13, 2008, 12:51:12 PM9/13/08
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pete
EPA doest say it is toxic,but says 'requires further study.'

Bobby

On 9/13/08, o snyder <osn...@hi-tm.com> wrote:
> Bobby,
>

> If you do an internet toxicity search for KMnO_4 , you find that it has


> not been approved by the FDA for use with food because of toxicity
> questions. Yes, it is used in a lot of places in the world, but other
> chemicals are less toxic.
>
> Pete
>
> bobby krishna wrote:
>>
>> Dear Karen,
>>

>> 1. KMnO_4 has strong oxidising power that kills the bacteria. It is


>> widely used for water disinfection but not as cost effective as
>> chlorine I guess.
>> It reduces odour from organic and inorganic material in water, but at
>> the same to gets oxidised and inactivated by organic matter. The
>> colour is also a disadvantge sometime.
>>
>> 2. It might be effective against coliforms, but we will have to look
>> at studies that are specific to pathogenic organisms attached to
>> lettuce surfce. E.Coli O 157: H7, for example is difficult to kill and
>> normal sanitisers dont give more than 2 log reduction.
>>

>> 3. KMnO_4 is widely used in India to disinfect well water. It is also


>> used by dentists I guess to disinfect mouth before pulling the tooth!
>>
>> 4. I dont think there are any health effects at 20 PPM. EPA has

>> approved KMnO_4 as a disinfectant for water.


>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:25 PM, GWR- HygieneCheck Department
>> <Hygien...@gwrconsulting.com

>> <mailto:Hygien...@gwrconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have found study on lettuce with original count of 7log CFU of
>> mesophilic bacteria/g. The lettuce was rinsed and soaked it in a
>> solution of potassium permanganate with a concentration of 25ppm
>> and a soaking time of 2mn. The soaking process reduced the total
>> population of aerobic bacteria and total coliforms by nearly 2
>> logs. The source also indicates that it's pinkish color makes it
>> easier to detect residues at the final rinse.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is potassium permanganate acceptable as a fruit and vegetable
>> sanitizer?
>>
>> Are there any regulations concerning this issue?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Karen KHOURY
>>
>> Food Safety Consultant - Trainer
>>
>>
>>
>> GWR Consulting
>>
>> Jdeidet el Metn, Lebanon
>>
>> Tel/fax: +961 1 891484
>>

>> E-mail: _Hygien...@gwrconsulting.com
>> <mailto:Hygien...@gwrconsulting.com>_

o snyder

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Sep 13, 2008, 12:59:16 PM9/13/08
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Bobby,  Isn't the key point that it is not approved?

Pete

Bobby Krishna Thulasi

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Sep 14, 2008, 1:22:30 AM9/14/08
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Pete,

It's widely used in aquatic farms and ponds in India.

Can you please provide more info on the hazards associated with its use.

 

 

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Sep 19, 2008, 8:42:40 AM9/19/08
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Dear All,

 

Potassium permagnate is very effective and widely used

in cattle yards , poultry farms to disinfect the udder before

milking and also as a dip for foot, incoming/outgoing vehicles.

 

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