Dear Sudhakar,
You have to decide on the thickness of the food and/or on the container to make sure it reaches the required temperature within 90 minutes in the blast chillers, alternatively you may choose ice bath for cooling food from 60° to 20°C within max. 2 hours and from 20° to 5°C within max. 4 hours time. but to note the faster it cools the safer is the method.
The word “Within” will do the purpose, that it shouldn’t necessary be exactly 90minutes or 2 hours or 4 hours ..
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Good Morning Team,Dear Dr. Pete Snyder,
But all the standards are saying fast cooling process in Blast chiller within 90 minutes to achieve the standard temp 5 degree C or critical limit 8 degree C.But Nida there is a procedure Hot foods directly not to be kept inside the refrigerator !
SO CAN ANYONE SHARE THE OPERATING PROCEDURE AND SOP FOR THE COOLING THE COOKED FOODS IN BLAST CHILLER WITHIN 90 MINS.
regards,A.Sudhakar
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Loraine and food safety group,
Loraine and all,
Let me provide some science for blast chilling. The target organism is Clostridium perfringens which begins to grow at 125F during cooling and stops growing at 55F. It is a spore so it survives the cooking process and becomes a hazard if it is allowed to grow during cooling. Another characteristic of this organism is that it is the fastest growing of the pathogens. It grows fastest at 108F and at that temperature, doubles every 8 minutes. If food is held above 125F, technically, it is safe. Codes require 130F or higher for precaution. Of course, salmonella, listeria and other vegetative pathogens will grow below 55F. However, they cannot survive the cooking/pasteurization process, so they are not an illness risk. Also, there is no reason to use a freezer rather than a refrigerator for chilling because ice forms in cooling below 32F. Ice absorbs energy and slows down the cooling rate to the rate of a 40 F refrigerator.
The only special thing about a blast chiller over a refrigerator is that the chiller has a big fan. This fan raises the air flow from 50 ft/minute in a standard refrigerator to 1000 ft/minute in a blast chiller. The blast chiller cools a covered 2 inch pan of food from 125F to 55F in 6 hours. This time and temperature is permitted by the USDA and is safe. At 50 ft/minute a standard refrigerator can cool a 1 inch of food from 125F to 55F in 6 hours. Going faster than 6 hours has no safety advantage
An ordinary refrigerator can be turned into a blast chiller with the addition of a big fan to blow cold air across the pan.
In summary, when we talk about cooling, the target organism is Clostridium perfringens. It survives cooking and grows between 125F and 55F during the cooling time. It grows especially fast at 108F. This is faster than any other pathogenic organism. If you want to safely cool foods more than 1 inch thick, a blast chiller is the only way to go.
Pete Snyder
Loraine Hughes wrote:
Dear All,------------------------------------------------------------------------
Not to forget that although the time-temperature advisory below is considered standard in many food production units one can make a decision based on risk.
A low risk product can be cooled at a lower rate whereas a higher risk item (rice, joints of meat, etc) need this as a CCP.
However, having said all of the above, Dr. Pete Snyder has previously raised the very valid point of blast chilling time-temp 'requirements' not being validated. I have no idea if this has moved on....
Best Wishes,
Loraine
Subject: RE: {Dubai's Food Safety Clinic} Blast Chiller Standard & Procedure
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You have to decide on the thickness of the food and/or on the container to make sure it reaches the required temperature *within*90 minutes *in the blast chillers*, alternatively you may choose *ice bath* for cooling food from *60**°**to 20**°**C **within max.**2 hours and from 20**°**to 5**°**C **within max.**4 hours time*. but to note the faster it cools the safer is the method.*COMPLEX FOOD SAFETY OFFICER *
The word “Within” will do the purpose, that it shouldn’t necessary be exactly 90minutes or 2 hours or 4 hours ..
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Dear Team,
Can anyone share the standard & procedure of Blast chilling target time and temperature.
Do all foods must reach the critical limit 8 Degree c within 90 minutes or depends upon the consistency of different foods the time varies( for Examples like Soup, curry sauce, mutton or chicken gravy, roasted whole chicken) but all In Shallow containers only.
Regards,
A.Sudhakar
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Sudhakar,
I am not sure about the ‘standard’ you are referring to.
The Food Code in Dubai doesn’t state so.
Getting from 60 C to 20 C in less than 2 hours is the key to ensure that pathogens do not grow. You don’t have to expect any growth when the food drops from 80 C to up until around 55 C.
· Below 50,C until 35 is the preferred temperature for Cl. Perfringens and then they slow down.
· Bacillus Cereus can grow below 40C, but they slow down when the food is around 20 C. This allows you to take a longer time from 20 to 5 C.
Understanding the pathogen that you are targeting for a particular process is the key to designing your equipment.
Dubai Food Code – Page 37 has a clear explanation and I am not sure where the 90 minutes thing came from unless you are looking at the codex guide ( which is not a standard).
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Dear Sudhakar,
You have to decide on the thickness of the food and/or on the container to make sure it reaches the required temperature *within*90 minutes *in the blast chillers*, alternatively you may choose *ice bath* for cooling food from *60**°**to 20**°**C **within max.**2 hours and from 20**°**to 5**°**C **within max.**4 hours time*. but to note the faster it cools the safer is the method.
The word “Within” will do the purpose, that it shouldn’t necessary be exactly 90minutes or 2 hours or 4 hours ..
Regards,
Nida Rizvi
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*Subject:* {Dubai's Food Safety Clinic} Blast Chiller Standard & Procedure
Dear Team,
Can anyone share the standard & procedure of Blast chilling target time and temperature.
Do all foods must reach the critical limit 8 Degree c within 90 minutes or depends upon the consistency of different foods the time varies( for Examples like Soup, curry sauce, mutton or chicken gravy, roasted whole chicken) but all In Shallow containers only.
Regards,
A.Sudhakar
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Dear Bobby,
I 100% agree with your view on “ where the 90 minutes standard came”. Many times , Questions raised in the training that if cooling can be done in 6 hours, why do we have to follow the standard of 90 minutes while cooling by blast chiller. I have also seen during the supplier audits that 90 minutes cooling is set as critical limit and which means that the food will be discarded if temperature not reached to below 50C in 90 minutes.
With best regards
chandra
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Procedure
Sudhakar,
I am not sure about the standard you are referring to.
The Food Code in Dubai doesnt state so.
Getting from 60 C to 20 C in less than 2 hours is the key to ensure that pathogens do not grow. You dont have to expect any growth when the food drops from 80 C to up until around 55 C.
You have to decide on the thickness of the food and/or on the container to make sure it reaches the required temperature *within*90 minutes *in the blast chillers*, alternatively you may choose *ice bath* for cooling food from *60****to 20****C **within max.**2 hours and from 20****to 5****C **within max.**4 hours time*. but to note the faster it cools the safer is the method.
The word Within will do the purpose, that it shouldnt necessary be exactly 90minutes or 2 hours or 4 hours ..
Regards,
Nida Rizvi
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Hi All,
May be this 90 minutes thing, first came from the blast chiller manufacturer who could have a promotional say that this machine can cool the food in 90 minutes time. And then it has been taken as a guideline to achieve faster cooling as in codex….:S
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Hi Bobby
Yes from a safety point of view. I was just wondering whether there were any spoilage bacteria that may result in a reduced shelf life because of a longer chilling process.
I have first hand experience of slow freezing and thawing of raw poultry resulting in premature spoilage/reduced shelf-life (Appreciate we are dealing with different microorganisms) Hence thawing large birds in refrigerators is not without problems
Regards
Richard
Richard
The microbiological profile would be really interesting. Mesophiles would dominate during the cooling process, but they will slow down as temperature hits 10 C.
Psychorphiles dominate in chilled foods and thus there will be a significant change in the type of bacteria that would eventually cause spoilage.
The nature of the food will decide the generation time and in the case of products with short shelf life, the effect is going to be negligible.
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