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Farhat Raza

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:56:26 AM12/16/09
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I personally think before giving any comment, it is better to check PSQCA standards about milk and milk products.

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M Jahangir

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:46:54 PM12/16/09
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Thanks Farhat Sahib, for joining the discussion .
Hope, if the matter of Melamine being taken in milk is in the court,
it would have been verified with the PSQCA standards. Still I would
agree with you that we should verify it,
for our own satisfaction.

Kindly let us know about food business management project ,where
you are working these days.

Shall post about standards when I get hold of it.
In the meantime we may like to Talk about Melamine addition and its
health impact.

Can you let us know some good and affordable Lab for testing milk


Rgds
M Jahangir
Islamabad

On Dec 16, 11:56 am, Farhat Raza <farhatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I personally think before giving any comment, it is better to check PSQCA
> standards about milk and milk products.
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> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:58 PM, <food-dairy-m...@googlegroups.com
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> >    - Melamine In Packed Milk<http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=js&ver=GRUts-X5mqs.en....>[1 Update]
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> >  Topic: Melamine In Packed Milk<http://groups.google.com/group/food-dairy-milk-pakistan/t/f4e37d23e08...>
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> >    M Jahangir <mjahangir...@gmail.com> Dec 15 12:33PM +0500


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> >    Dear Sir
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> >    I am surprised to hear about the permission to mix Melamine in Milk in
> >    PSQCA
> >    standards.
> >    Kindly let me know how we get current Packed milk standards , Is it
> >    available on web site ?
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> >    Rgds
> >    M Jahangir
> >    Islamabad
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Farhat Raza

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Dec 17, 2009, 6:51:28 PM12/17/09
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Dear Mr. Jahangir
 
Thanks for you comments
 
When milk standards were under dicsussion, I was part of the team working on milk standards . At that time I was representing Dairy Pakistan. The team consisted of prominent figures from private and government organisations. According to my memory, the standards under discussion were quite straight forward and were phrased based on the international dairy standards keeping in mind the human safety as a key element. I have not seen the final approved standards and might be available with PSQCA.
 
In my past I have worked with various dairy processing organisations at national and international levels and has no hesitation to mention here that dairy process industry has some system in place where milk supplied to the factory goes through a series of qualitative tests may be more than 20 in number. Each test adds some cost the the product but still the tests are being done to verify the qualitative status of milk. So under the present circumstances in Pakistan, at least process industry has some system in place. We have to keep in mind that only 3 to 4% of the total milk goes to process industry. What about the remaining 97% unprocessed milk being sold to consumer in loose form without having any qualitative / quantitative check??? Unfortunately the responsible government / semi government organisations fail to implement the standards and unhealthy loose milk is supplied to the consumer. I think we should focus on this 97% portion as well.
 
Coming to the actual issue of Malamine, I personally agree that the issue should be addressed seriously to eliminate the source of this adultration.
 
I am in UK now and give consultancy services in food safety program based on HACCP, QMS and other food manufacturing projects etc. Here I would like to mention that it is very important to adopt basic HACCP philosophy at dairy farm level.
 


 
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    Thanks Farhat Sahib, for joining the discussion .
    Hope, if the matter of Melamine being taken in milk is in the court,
    it would have been verified with the PSQCA standards. Still I would
    agree with you that we should verify it,
    for our own satisfaction.
     
    Kindly let us know about food business management project ,where
    you are working these days.
     
    Shall post about standards when I get hold of it.
    In the meantime we may like to Talk about Melamine addition and its
    health impact.
     
    Can you let us know some good and affordable Lab for testing milk
     
     
    Rgds
    M Jahangir
    Islamabad
     

     

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