Flux 4 is out!

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jvcbiggles

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Apr 11, 2012, 1:40:06 PM4/11/12
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New management, and now a new version of flux. I'm glad to see that
there is still a demo on their site. I'll be trying it out after
work. Then, I'll give my first impressions - I hope that the code-
editor is fixed! What our your thaoughts?

Miers David

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Apr 11, 2012, 2:50:36 PM4/11/12
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I'm curious...and such a software ho..lol. I don't think I'm gonna bite, but we'll see how convincing the new management is!

:)

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Apr 11, 2012, 3:16:24 PM4/11/12
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Well, I am tempted, though with the dollar/pound conversion, even an upgrade is pretty pricey. I was pleased that the recent version 2 updates have made it easier to code directly and this is one of the things that is highlighted in the new version and what is most important to me. I wonder if the new version has incorporated changes beyond those in recent updates. It is hard to tell with a demo version without being able to use it for a while.

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svorr

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Apr 11, 2012, 10:27:37 PM4/11/12
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Expensive upgrade.

And they are still selling Flux 3 at a discount, or this Cult of Mac
offer is for the new version? I couldn't tell from thr ad

https://deals.cultofmac.com/sales/macflux?utm_source=Cult+of+Mac+Deals+Newsletter&utm_campaign=1ea819fe6a-CoM+MacFlux&utm_medium=email&mc_cid=1ea819fe6a&mc_eid=762fa3d910

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svorr

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Apr 11, 2012, 11:30:01 PM4/11/12
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Never mind, I now see where the offer says is Flux 3.

On Apr 11, 10:27 pm, svorr <sil...@hotel-alegria.com> wrote:
> Expensive upgrade.
>
> And they are still selling Flux 3 at a discount, or this Cult of Mac
> offer is for the new version?  I couldn't tell from thr ad
>
> https://deals.cultofmac.com/sales/macflux?utm_source=Cult+of+Mac+Deal...

jvcbiggles

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Apr 12, 2012, 12:32:31 PM4/12/12
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Well, I downloaded the demo, and I used it for a few hours last
night. So far, so good.

The look of the app is a little different, but they added the new
funcionality to existing drop-downs and menus, so everything from ver
3 is still where you expect it.

All of the apps buttons are animated in a strange way which is hard to
describe, but there is no obvious way to turn animations off - weird.

The regular code editor works better, but the most excellent thing is
their inclusion of an editing mode called "Free Code". When your on a
page, you hit Menu->Edit->Free Code, and now the code editor works
like and external editor - that is - Flux doesn't put extra
modifications in the source code. Visual Editing operations - like
creating a div - still produces the required HTML, and what you type
in the Code Editor gets reflected in the Visual Editor; however, I
didn't experience any hint of Flux "messing with the code" while in
Free-Code mode. They claim that this will also be the case for CSS,
and I tested it ( a little ) by making some changes to the CSS code.
So far, so good.

I'd like to go back to some of the posts about CSS editing problems to
see if Free-Code fixes this situation. I also want to try working
through the examples in the book, CSS Mastery, to see if I can code
them up from scratch using Free-Code in Flux - this had been
impossible for me using Flux 3.

So far the app is stable, but I did have a few crashes while playing
with the Gradient Editor - they've added a way to define CSS gradients
with a slide-bar editor, and this worked great. I got crashes when I
attempted to save the resulting gradient as an image - which is an
excellent option which eventually worked - although the option seemed
a little unstable.

So far with my short experience, I've enjoyed the new version. I
wanted to continue using it, but it got too late. If the Free-Code
editing continues to live up to the Escaper's claims, then for me,
this will be a must buy. More to come...

Miers David

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Apr 12, 2012, 12:46:10 PM4/12/12
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So I'm all ears although I found the word 'crashes' pretty deflating...

Maybe you'll play more tonight :)

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ralfy

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Apr 17, 2012, 7:26:42 AM4/17/12
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I have downloaded the demo and opened a couple of existing projects. But I haven't spent much time examining the new features or overall stability thus far.

One thing that does hit me is the dark grey background of the tab bar and other elements, and the black embossed text. To me this is a step backwards from the previous interface and almost un-apple like in its design. Looks very clunky and amateurish. A bit like a PC program or a cheap app cobbled together for a quick profit on the app store.

I do like the Embedded Inspector, but again I think it could have been implemented with a cleaner design - see Espresso 2 for an example of the way to go with this. Using the same font throughout the interface would be a start.

As for the upgrade price - £44.99 does seem a bit on the steep side, especially when (as others have said) a lot of the new features are really bug fixes for version 3.

Flux 3 always seemed to be popping up in various bundle deals over the past year or two, often the whole bundle would be less than the current upgrade price. I am leaning towards holding off on the upgrade for a while, just in case a few months down the line Flux 4 appears in a bundle.

Or can The Escapers assure us that this won't be happening - at least for a year?

Hate to be negative about Flux, as I really do like the app.

Joost Miltenburg

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Apr 17, 2012, 9:56:43 AM4/17/12
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Hi !

I saw an cheaper option allready : https://exclusives.macappdeals.com/sales/macflux

Buy it fast as the price goes up $1 each day. We are now @ $41, which is cheaper than the £47+ for the upgrade. You'll get a second flux 3 serial and a flux 4 serial in a couple of days ( probably when the deal is over )

Greetz !

Joost
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Werner Muller

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Apr 17, 2012, 12:06:16 PM4/17/12
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It looks like version 3!!
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ralfy

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Apr 17, 2012, 12:19:06 PM4/17/12
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It is version 3, but with a complimentary upgrade to version 4!

This is exactly what I mean about Flux and The Escapers. I understand they want to build market share and a user base, but how does this offer make someone feel who has just paid full price for version 4 or the upgrade from version 3?

Joost Miltenburg

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Apr 17, 2012, 12:20:50 PM4/17/12
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It is, but you'll get a free upgrade to 4. It says so twice on the page !

Greets, 

Joost

Joost Miltenburg

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Apr 17, 2012, 12:23:06 PM4/17/12
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Exactly!

I bought v3 again and saved me some money !

Greets,

Joost
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ralfy

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Apr 17, 2012, 12:56:55 PM4/17/12
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Anyone else want to buy it? Use my referral link please:

Old Toad

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Apr 24, 2012, 11:38:54 AM4/24/12
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On Apr 17, 6:56 am, Joost Miltenburg <joost.miltenb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi !
>
> I saw an cheaper option allready :https://exclusives.macappdeals.com/sales/macflux
>
> Buy it fast as the price goes up $1 each day. We are now @ $41, which is cheaper than the £47+ for the upgrade. You'll get a second flux 3 serial and a flux 4 serial in a couple of days ( probably when the deal is over )
>
> Greetz !
>
> Joost
> On 17 apr. 2012, at 13:26, ralfy wrote:

ALERT!

I ordered the Flux 3/upgrade to Flux 4 from MacAppDeals (which is the
same outfit as Cult of Mac) a couple of days before Flux 4 came out.
I waited until today to contact both MacAppDeals and The Escapers to
ask for my license no.

MacAppDeals said they were waiting for their batch of license nos.

The Escapers replied: "Please note that this offer of a free upgrade
was made without our consent, but we are honouring the deal anyway."

I would be very wary of ordering the Flux 3 to 4 upgrade as you don't
know if The Esapers will continue to honor that unofficial offer.
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