multiple correct checkbox answers with partial credit? Cannot get grading to work!
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sse...@wsesu.org
Mar 3, 2016, 4:26:29 PM3/3/16
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I gave my students a quiz in Google Forms that I posted in Google Classroom. It was a mix of check boxes and true/false. For the check boxes there were sometimes up to 6 correct answers; sometimes just one correct answer or anything in between. I expected Flubaroo to be able to grade all the checkboxes that were correct and give credit for all correct answers whether the student got all or partial; to count as incorrect all the wrong answers and to grade the true/false accordingly.
I did the test myself so I had a key. When the grading was done, I went into the answers on the spreadsheet and added the operator %or between correct answers so the program would allow multiple correct answers. Then I regraded. At one point, it seemed that the program was working correctly but when I checked further only one question was being graded properly - all the rest were not graded correctly. The program continued to allow only 1 check box per question.
After some research I tried %cb %or in various ways (comma, no comma, period, no period) but I could not get the grading to work.
I tried to place the %or in the spreadsheet at the beginning of the line of answers with a comma between answers for each question. No other punctuation. Still the program is allowing only one answer per question. Incorrect.I tried %cb at front of line of answers with %or between answers separated by a comma. Nothing. I think I've tried every combination.
What am I missing?
Also, I cannot figure out why, when I open the spreadsheet in some google classes, I get all the entries for one day (2/29) but not any entries for classes that took the test on 3/2. All of those are in another spreadsheet in another google classroom. So I need to grade twice. Does the software only "gather" from the same day submission?
aces.and....@gmail.com
Mar 6, 2016, 1:18:20 PM3/6/16
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I just tried the check boxes option this morning. According to to the directions, these are some things I'm thinking it could be
-make sure no potential answers to any of the questions has a period or comma
-use %cb. This should be at the beginning of the correct answer (only one time per question), not between the answers within the correct selection of answers.
I'm not sure if this was the problem or not. Like I said, I just started working with it today. Hope it helped!
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-make sure no potential answers to any of the questions has a period or comma
-use %cb. This should be at the beginning of the correct answer (only one time per question), not between the answers within the correct selection of answers.
I'm not sure if this was the problem or not. Like I said, I just started working with it today. Hope it helped!
___
Flubaroo Joe
Mar 6, 2016, 1:34:44 PM3/6/16
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Please read the instructions for the %CB. A comma in the Checkbox answers on the Form will cause the %CB to get an incorrect number of correct answers. A period in the answers should not make any difference.
If you found that a period in the %CB is causing a problem, please share the spreadsheet so we can take a look.
If you still have a problem please share the spreadsheet with flubar...@edcode.org with edit rights.
Dave or I will take a look.
Please include some detail about the problem so we can locate the problem quicker.
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kasp...@edmonds.wednet.edu
May 25, 2016, 2:18:28 PM5/25/16
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I just sent a link to this email address that allows you to edit to speadsheet - It seems that for the checkbox questions, if the student has the first answer and second choice correct, they get credit, but if the first choice is incorrect and the second is correct, it marks the entire answer wrong -
Please help!!
The link is also posted below
On Sunday, March 6, 2016 at 10:34:44 AM UTC-8, Flubaroo Joe wrote:
Please read the instructions for the %CB. A comma in the Checkbox answers on the Form will cause the %CB to get an incorrect number of correct answers. A period in the answers should not make any difference.If you found that a period in the %CB is causing a problem, please share the spreadsheet so we can take a look.If you still have a problem please share the spreadsheet with flubar...@edcode.org with edit rights.Dave or I will take a look.Please include some detail about the problem so we can locate the problem quicker.
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 1:18 PM, <aces.and....@gmail.com> wrote:
I just tried the check boxes option this morning. According to to the directions, these are some things I'm thinking it could be
-make sure no potential answers to any of the questions has a period or comma
-use %cb. This should be at the beginning of the correct answer (only one time per question), not between the answers within the correct selection of answers.
I'm not sure if this was the problem or not. Like I said, I just started working with it today. Hope it helped!
___
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 4:26:29 PM UTC-5, sse...@wsesu.org wrote:I gave my students a quiz in Google Forms that I posted in Google Classroom. It was a mix of check boxes and true/false. For the check boxes there were sometimes up to 6 correct answers; sometimes just one correct answer or anything in between. I expected Flubaroo to be able to grade all the checkboxes that were correct and give credit for all correct answers whether the student got all or partial; to count as incorrect all the wrong answers and to grade the true/false accordingly.I did the test myself so I had a key. When the grading was done, I went into the answers on the spreadsheet and added the operator %or between correct answers so the program would allow multiple correct answers. Then I regraded. At one point, it seemed that the program was working correctly but when I checked further only one question was being graded properly - all the rest were not graded correctly. The program continued to allow only 1 check box per question.After some research I tried %cb %or in various ways (comma, no comma, period, no period) but I could not get the grading to work.I tried to place the %or in the spreadsheet at the beginning of the line of answers with a comma between answers for each question. No other punctuation. Still the program is allowing only one answer per question. Incorrect.I tried %cb at front of line of answers with %or between answers separated by a comma. Nothing. I think I've tried every combination.What am I missing?Also, I cannot figure out why, when I open the spreadsheet in some google classes, I get all the entries for one day (2/29) but not any entries for classes that took the test on 3/2. All of those are in another spreadsheet in another google classroom. So I need to grade twice. Does the software only "gather" from the same day submission?
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Flubaroo Joe
May 25, 2016, 3:34:27 PM5/25/16
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Try reading the description of the new %cb features. You can now tell Flubaroo how much to take off for a wrong answer.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:18 PM, <kasp...@edmonds.wednet.edu> wrote:
I just sent a link to this email address that allows you to edit to speadsheet - It seems that for the checkbox questions, if the student has the first answer and second choice correct, they get credit, but if the first choice is incorrect and the second is correct, it marks the entire answer wrong -Please help!!The link is also posted below
On Sunday, March 6, 2016 at 10:34:44 AM UTC-8, Flubaroo Joe wrote:
Please read the instructions for the %CB. A comma in the Checkbox answers on the Form will cause the %CB to get an incorrect number of correct answers. A period in the answers should not make any difference.If you found that a period in the %CB is causing a problem, please share the spreadsheet so we can take a look.If you still have a problem please share the spreadsheet with flubar...@edcode.org with edit rights.Dave or I will take a look.Please include some detail about the problem so we can locate the problem quicker.
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 1:18 PM, <aces.and....@gmail.com> wrote:
I just tried the check boxes option this morning. According to to the directions, these are some things I'm thinking it could be
-make sure no potential answers to any of the questions has a period or comma
-use %cb. This should be at the beginning of the correct answer (only one time per question), not between the answers within the correct selection of answers.
I'm not sure if this was the problem or not. Like I said, I just started working with it today. Hope it helped!
___
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 4:26:29 PM UTC-5, sse...@wsesu.org wrote:I gave my students a quiz in Google Forms that I posted in Google Classroom. It was a mix of check boxes and true/false. For the check boxes there were sometimes up to 6 correct answers; sometimes just one correct answer or anything in between. I expected Flubaroo to be able to grade all the checkboxes that were correct and give credit for all correct answers whether the student got all or partial; to count as incorrect all the wrong answers and to grade the true/false accordingly.I did the test myself so I had a key. When the grading was done, I went into the answers on the spreadsheet and added the operator %or between correct answers so the program would allow multiple correct answers. Then I regraded. At one point, it seemed that the program was working correctly but when I checked further only one question was being graded properly - all the rest were not graded correctly. The program continued to allow only 1 check box per question.After some research I tried %cb %or in various ways (comma, no comma, period, no period) but I could not get the grading to work.I tried to place the %or in the spreadsheet at the beginning of the line of answers with a comma between answers for each question. No other punctuation. Still the program is allowing only one answer per question. Incorrect.I tried %cb at front of line of answers with %or between answers separated by a comma. Nothing. I think I've tried every combination.What am I missing?Also, I cannot figure out why, when I open the spreadsheet in some google classes, I get all the entries for one day (2/29) but not any entries for classes that took the test on 3/2. All of those are in another spreadsheet in another google classroom. So I need to grade twice. Does the software only "gather" from the same day submission?
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Kasprzyk, Karen M. (BTM)
May 25, 2016, 3:35:44 PM5/25/16
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I’ve done this – I’ve used %cb and %CB and if the first answer is not a correct choice, it marks the whole thing wrong.
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Flubaroo Joe
May 25, 2016, 3:43:57 PM5/25/16
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There are new options. %cb0 doesn't take any points off for wrong answers. %cb.5 takes fifty percent off for an incorrect answer.
Kasprzyk, Karen M. (BTM)
May 25, 2016, 5:06:53 PM5/25/16
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I don’t think was as clear as I could be (sorry).
I have a question that has two correct answers (out of four) – see highlighted choices below. I put the question to be worth two points (one for each correct answer).
IF a student answers both correct, s/he gets two points.
IF a student has the first possible choice correct (helped Lincoln), but the second incorrect (were a major, or caused Lincoln), they are getting 1 point.
HOWEVER,
IF a student has the first choice wrong (were a major or caused Lincoln) BUT the second one is correct (solidified), the student is getting 0 points. The same happens if the student got a wrong “first choice” and the second answer is “helped make Lincoln”.
When I did the %cb.5 – even if I had it marked as a 2-point question, the student who only got the second part correct received .5 points, not one whole point.
IF I put it in as one point, then under the same scenario, students who still do not get the first choice correct receive 0 points, even if they got the second answer correct.
As a 1-point question using %cb.5, students with one right answer get .25
I’ve included a table with 5 of my students’ scores – each with a different grading scenario –the results – and what they should have earned.
Dave Abouav
May 25, 2016, 11:33:40 PM5/25/16
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Thanks Karen for spelling this out so clearly. It could be you came across a bug caused by the new release. I'll take a look at it soon and let you know.
Best,
Dave
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Joe
May 26, 2016, 6:03:25 PM5/26/16
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I have discussed the problem with Karen and Flubaroo is working as per the documentation.
I have added a video to the documentation. See http://www.flubaroo.com/hc/partial-credit-on-checkbox-questions
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