Grading Check boxes answers

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Rachael Thomas

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Sep 15, 2021, 2:33:27 PM9/15/21
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When there is more than one answers in check boxes, if the student clicks them out of order flububaroo counts it wrong. 

Ex. correct answer: are sugars, provide energy
      Flubaroo is counting provide energy, are sugars  as incorrect. 

Is there something I need to do in the answer key wrong to make sure this will be graded correctly if the answer if check boxes option if two answers need to be correct.  
   Ex. are sugars, provide energy
           provide energy, are sugars 
Both of these answers needed to be counted as correct. 

Thanks in advance for any help

Joseph Schmidt

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Sep 15, 2021, 5:22:32 PM9/15/21
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Did you rotate the responses in the quiz?  It shouldn't make any difference the order that the options are clicked.

I think you might have to use Formula grading which is under the advanced topics

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Dave or I will take a look.

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Rachael Thomas

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Sep 16, 2021, 9:59:01 AM9/16/21
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Thanks for your response.  
I got to thinking and those form questions are set on "shuffle option order".   Would this be the reason? For some students the answers were in a different order which apparently confused the program? 



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Joseph Schmidt

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Sep 16, 2021, 10:09:47 AM9/16/21
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Yes, that is the problem.  I didn't write Flubaroo but the code seems to expect the CB items to always be in the same order.

Do you give any credit if the question was not answered 100% correctly?  You would be using the %CB.

If the question has to be 100% correct, then you can use the https://www.flubaroo.com/hc/multiple-correct-answers.

If you are using the %CB then you have a different level of a problem.

Are you using Autograde?  

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Rachael Thomas

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Sep 16, 2021, 10:20:23 AM9/16/21
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Thanks for your quick response.  I will try out your suggestions and if I still have a problem, I will let you know.

Thanks for all your help!

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Rob Nielson

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:54:32 PM9/20/21
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When I create a question where the answers have the "shuffle option order" enabled and check boxes turned on (more than one possible correct answer), the answer is counted as wrong, even though they selected all of the correct checkboxes. So has anyone found a fix for this yet?

Thank you!


Rob Nielson

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:57:23 PM9/20/21
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Also, they must select all possible correct answers or the entire answer is wrong. 

Rachael Thomas

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:01:56 PM9/20/21
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I decided that I'm going to turn off the "shuffle option order". 

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Joseph Schmidt

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Sep 20, 2021, 4:38:50 PM9/20/21
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This is a known problem.  If the students must select all of the boxes to be correct, you can use the %or condition to select the various orders that are in the Student Submissions.

If they have to select A&C to be correct then the answer key would be A, C %or C, A.  

If someone would share an actual example, I will share it with Dave.  I don't know if he will be able to create a fix.  In the meantime, don't use the "shuffle option order" option.  There are multiple options such as "hand grading" or a variation.  

Dave wrote and supports Flubaroo.  I just do my best to answer questions.

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Rob Nielson

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Sep 20, 2021, 5:27:22 PM9/20/21
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Thanks Joe.

The answer selection in question is a simple one where the kids watch me fingerspell (in sign) some letter combinations and must choose all of the ones I signed. Example:

Choices: (x = must choose this)

AM
AN
ET x
IN
IT x
OT x
AS
IS

With random order, even if they choose all of the three, if the answer sheet says ET, IT, OT and their answer is OT, ET, IT, then it is counted wrong. I tried to see if I could use %AND, but apparently that's not a function that is used.

I could remove the shuffle option order but would prefer to leave it. Thanks for your help!


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Joseph Schmidt

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Sep 21, 2021, 12:37:50 AM9/21/21
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Flubaroo Joe

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Sep 22, 2021, 10:01:33 AM9/22/21
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If you are using a CheckBox question and shuffling the answers, you will need to use the %CB operator.

See %CB checkbox questions  The %CB causes Flubaroo to search for the correct answers in any order.

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