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Russell McOrmond

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Mar 31, 2004, 8:46:26 AM3/31/04
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Julien Lamarche wrote:

(Moving last sentence to the beginning)
> Not sure if this was pertinent to flora-admin-help

I believe you are right. I suspect we should move the thread not
relating to the movement to FLORA.org 2.0 to comnet-www , which I have
copied this message to.


> Another thing that worries me is the hype arround extremely bandwith
> demanding stuff like video on demand.


Like NAT/DynamicIPv4 you need to look at who is generating the hype and
pushing these services. Having the top tier of the Internet in Canada be
owned by the telecos and the cable companies is a problem, and I believe
we need to get governments involved to properly regulate them to offer us
adequate services. First the cable/telecos build a "consumer class"
Internet connection, and then make everyone pay for on-demand services
whether they use them or not.


We may all be wanting to go back to metered connections, so that
text-based services like email become essentially free in order to pay for
on-demand high-bandwidth stuff. The problem is that these telecos/cable
companies want to break the end-to-end nature of the Internet and charge
packets different rates depending on what type of service it is, such that
low-bandwidth (but far more useful) services like Email end up subsidizing
their Pay-per-view video services. This may mess up our ability to use
IPSec which hides everything but the source and destination addresses
within crypto.


This is one of the many reasons why protecting the end-to-end nature of
the Internet is so important.


BTW: Another message sent in that was bounced (email address not on the
list) mentioned that there is Dynamic IP allocation built into IPv6. In
fact it is an important part of mobile IPv6.

The issue for me is not whether *one* of your addresses for a given
device is dynamic, but whether all of them are. IPv6 also has a protocol
for having a "Home Agent" which is static (what you put in DNS for your
website/etc) that then has a protocol to short-circuit routing to your
most recent mobile IP address (routing headers). It is like another BGP
type protocol built on top of the basic network, but appears to be far
less costly on the network than that.

For the techies curious there is a draft that describes some of this.
I haven't read the entire draft myself yet, but have learned about it from
other conversations over the years.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mobileip-ipv6-24.txt


This means that IPv6 addresses can have the top bits point to "the right
part of the Internet" and not need to have as complex routing tables for
basic IP traffic, with these other protocols to short circuit mobile
customers such that they can also have static IP addresses even while they
are mobile.

I would love to see a presentation on IPSec and Mobile IPv4 given at an
OCLUG or other meeting that interested people could attend. I believe
Mike Richardson has been doing some work on this.

There are some very interesting things with IPv6 which can return what I
consider to be the core features of a citizen empowering Internet that are
being taken away from us by telecos and cable companies under IPv4.

> Video on demand coupled with trusted computing can lead to forced
> advertising on your computer.

I don't see Video on demand (where we are allowed to cache that video to
watch later), but (can never be) trusted computing is. I already have
pay-per-view at home and the ability to record it and watch later in my
private home. This is how services need to be assumed: as soon as they
try to own and control the equipment in my home to disallow me from
recording it for later, then they create serious problems.

> On Monday March 29, 2004 07:41, Russell McOrmond wrote:
> > I am just reposting this for those who want to read about the
> > importance of Creative Commons and why FLORA.org is moving (fairly
> > aggressively) to clarifying copyright issues. I have not read the
> > book yet, but have read the introduction online and I expect that I
> > will agree with the book and it will give me new ways to express
> > things.
> >
> > I'm also hoping that people involved with FLORA.org will be taking
> > these ideas and spreading them to other community networks. As
> > someone who considers himself a Cyber-citizen I consider what is
> > happening with some of the proposed changes to close down the
> > Internet to be as bad as any other hostile invasion of a "place"
> > people call home.
> >
> >
> > See also:
> >
> > The Digital Imprimatur, and my review
> > http://weblog.flora.org/article.php3?story_id=622
> >
> > My notes from my presentation at the Open Source Weekend
> > http://www.flora.ca/russell/drafts/osw2004.html
> >
> > Check out the introduction to "The Software Paralegal"
> > http://www.flora.ca/russell/drafts/osw2004.html#software-paralegal
> >
> > Slides in OASIS open office XML standard format.
> > http://www.flora.ca/russell/drafts/osw2004-deck.sxi


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"Make it legal: don't litigate, use creative licensing" campaign.
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Russell McOrmond

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Mar 31, 2004, 8:51:26 AM3/31/04
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Replying in this forum to a message that Krishna put into the FLORA.org
helpdesk

http://www.flora.org/flora/help/flora-admin-help/1369

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Krishna E. Bera wrote:

> what is "trusted" about a computer you can't control?

I believe the question isn't whether trust exists, but who is granted
that trust. We as citizens know we can NOT trust this computer *because*
third parties like the software vendor, big-media and big-government can.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
"25. So a `Trusted Computer' is a computer that can break my security?
That's a polite way of putting it."

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