ICU sort rules - quotation marks

[Susie]

Hi all,

We have some words in our lexicon that are inherently in quotation marks (ideophones that do not follow the normal syllable structure of the language).  However, I want them to sort according to their first letter, not according to the quotation marks.  I know that I should do this in ICU rules, but I don't know how to make the ICU rule that ignores the quotation mark (0022).  Can someone help me?  

The current ICU rule we have, which ignores word-forming apostrophes, is the following: &[last tertiary ignorable]=\u02bc.

Thanks so much!
Susie

[Carin Boone]

Hi Susie,

Why would you want to have them in quotation marks in the dictionary?
Aren't the quotation marks an orthographic device you use in texts to signal that these words have a different form?
Could the label 'idéophone' suffice in the dictionary to indicate that these words are different (as ideophones often are anyway)?

Carin

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[Jean Paul Gotopo Maldonado]

Yes, you can extend your existing rule by adding the double quotation mark:

&[last tertiary ignorable] = \u02BC = '"'

This preserves your current treatment of the apostrophe (U+02BC) and also ignores the straight double quotation mark (U+0022) when sorting. FieldWorks documents this approach: separate the characters to ignore with = and enclose punctuation in single quotes.

In '"', the outer single quotes delimit the character; the double quotation mark between them is the character being ignored.

If your entries also contain curly double quotation marks, include those as well:

&[last tertiary ignorable] = \u02BC = '"' = '“' = '”'

The quotation marks will remain visible in your entries, but the words will sort according to their letters.

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[Susie]

Thank you, Jean Paul!  That worked!

Carin, I will respond privately by e-mail. Thanks for your thoughts, too.  :)

Susie