DJ and Peri

[David Stone]

I just had a long conversation with DJ (djmartin (at) ameritech.net).
It was really funny yet again to hear how much someone's voice can
change. Like John Dorfman, DJ's voice has taken on a real radio
talkshow host quality. I think it's from his years of yoga.

DJ told me that he is basically living in Manhattan (around Columbus
Circle -- so we'll be getting together soon) and is currently writing
a partially autobiographical novel, his first. He used to do a lot of
rock climbing, taking him on occasion to New Paltz (before I'd moved
here). He went to Trinity and then Princeton.

DJ has kept in close touch with Guy, so we'll soon have Mr
Maxtone-Graham on our list. Guy can finally put to rest the question
of where his arm injury happened (10 or 35).

Tho we have yet to speak, I have had a lot of email exchanges with
Peri Erlanger Nielsen. She's lawyering out in California, where she's
made partner, and has a really cute 6yo daughter named Somerset. I
sent her back what I thought was a beautiful shot of my three kids,
but the next morning it turned out that I had sent a beautiful photo
of a duck. Peri went to Fleming thru 4th grade and has wonderful
memories of school. She can be reached at peritopia (at) gmail.com

I tried to include the photo of Somerset, but it was apparently too large.

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

When Guy joins our list I will have to apologize to him. Actually, I should apologize to DJ too. I have vivid memories of being very, very mean to Guy and DJ at times as well. I think Mary and John and I wrote a whole book with caricatures of Guy--and of course one day he found it. It's embarrassing to think how cruel I was.

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

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[Mark McCabe]

I feel your guilt ... I too was mean to many of you good people.

--
M.O. McCabe MD
Department of Internal Medicine
University of Washington Hospitals
Seattle, Washington

[jennifer rogge]

you're being to hard on yourself,,, i don't think you were ever cruel,,i always remember you being very funny.Cruel is a word i reserve for some other alumni,never you

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From: claudia.r...@gmail.com
To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:25:14 -0400

[David Stone]

Wow. I always thought that I was the mean one. I guess we're all like
those people on the "Orient Express" -- all of them guilty (well,
maybe not all of us).

For a few years, I hesitated in trying to dredge up names for this
list because I was too afraid to face the meannesses I'd perpetrated
all those years ago. I was mean to Guy (I remember tripping him on the
roof and not getting into trouble for it bc I was so good at looking
innocent, tho he got bloody knees and palms for that one). I gave
Kelben and Philip a hard time about their religion (I've been an
atheist since 3). I was probably tough on a few other people, too.
Generally I think that a lot of us were like this, and I guess the
realization of this is what allows us all to have so many fond
memories of Fleming -- enough to outweigh the ones we'd rather let go.
I'm really glad I contacted all of you. It's been a hoot and a joy,
and the feeling of all of these memories flooding back is unreal.

[Peri Nielsen]

Howdy,

I thought I had joined the group -- but my original messages must have gone into the Internet vortex.  Anyway, here's a tidbit: I kept in touch with Spencer Angel because he ended up marrying my BEST FRIEND Alexis Summer!  They now live in Miami, married 12 years with two kids Sophia (10) and Josh (8).  After a stint as a CEO of a publicly-traded healthcare company, Spencer is now in the deal-making business. 

 

I echo the sentiments expressed, particularly about how vivid memories from Fleming are.  Not sure why I remember the Munster cheese sandwiches...or the time we were doing some kind of play where I think Kelben and I were supposed to be Shakespearean guards and our lines were, "halt, who goes there."  Instead of saying that, though, Kelben just threw up.

 

Peri

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Claudia B Rutherford PhD <claudia.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Yes, Mark, I think I was afraid of you. Although, from a distance. I don't think you ever did anything to me personally. But see, that fear did not stop me from being mean myself when I had the chance, to other people! Children can be cruel.

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Oh no, I was cruel. We had a book called the Book of Yug (Guy backwards) with horrible pictures and I think a few times we tried to slip milk into his lunchbox, knowing he was wildly allergic. I remember when he found the book and cried and cried. The year before I had been cruelly teased for months by two people who will go nameless.... this was how I repaid the experience, by finding someone else to terrorize.

[Kelben Holbrook]

Hi Peri - I'd love to get in touch with Spencer since I'm not too far from Miami hear in West Palm Beach.  Do we have his contact info?  By the way, I'm pretty sure I threw up when it was my turn to say my lines for a French play, not a Shakespearean one.  At least it was only practice!

[Peri Nielsen]

Just sent you his email address.

[David Stone]

Well, Peri, I was getting all of the emails you sent to me, but I
didn't see any others, so maybe they DID go to the vortex.

Peri, you are going to FREAK when you read this, but Alexis Summer was
my first crush (later came Blair Schwartz, and then Diana Capaldi). I
invited her to my birthday party, and at the last second she decided
not to come, presumably because I was too immature for her (which was
true). I remember putting down the phone (in the kitchen) and walking
back to my room and crying. It nearly ruined my birthday, which wasn't
easy bc my bday is Halloween. This was when I was nine. Alexis was
always really tall and was at least once a rat in the Met's famous
"Nutcracker" ballet. Her parents and mine were friends (was one of
them a shrink like mine?). She grew up in the Dakota, where the
elevator took ten seconds per floor (no joke -- I was always timing
everything); if you had to pee when you got in and you lived on the
7th floor, you didn't when you got out. She had one of the biggest
(and tallest) apartments I've ever seen, with gigantic ceilings. I
wrote part of my 3rd grade report on Abe Lincoln at her house bc I
hadn't finished it ahead of time and we were sposed to have dinner at
the Summers the night before it was due. Phew.

[Kelben Holbrook]

Thanks Peri, got it!

[D.J. Martin]

David, you forgot the part where I dodged sniper fire:)  actually I was summarily rejected by Princeton -- I went to Cornell. 

I heard that Mr. Johnson was crushed bet. two buses on Madison Ave while riding his bike home -- and I remember him as being one my very favorite teachers and way too good and young do have this fate befall him..

Also, in our conversation you mentioned that Chuck Borhuis was our 4th grade teacher, but he was also our 7th grade teacher and I just found a copy of our Seventh Grade Poetry Anthology for which I will be accepting bribes not to publish!  I remember him brining in a record of Galway Kinnell reading from his works (i think this was in 6th grade as it was the same room where Mark established Markonia): one of the lines was something like, 'as i was sucking the sweat from your armpit,'  which upon hearing caused us to immediately heap loud ridicule on Maude who was mortified, ignorant as we were of how talented her dad actually was (to quote Wikipedia: Galway Kinnell (born February 1st, 1927 in Providence, Rhode Island) is one of the most influential American poets of the latter half of the 20th century)

[Peri Nielsen]

Cute.  I will have to pass on this information as Alexis suspected you might be the same David Stone she remembers...

[Evan Tawil]

I love what u r saying peri, however, "halt, who goes there" was also a line used in the Brady bunch. R u sure it was also used by u and kelben?

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[Evan Tawil]

Claudia........u were not mean at all. That's for sure. U can take that to the bank.

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[Mark McCabe]

Ah ... Markonia, when real estate was cheap and it was politically acceptable to have vassals ... I miss those days.

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Well thank you Evan for saying that. But I remember having such a big crush on you--surely you would never have been a recipient of my cruelty!

[Evan Tawil]

Diana capaldi was hot.

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[Evan Tawil]

Thank you darling. Even today, I could  use your support.

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[Mary R Bachvarova]

Yes, the evil things I did to others stick in my mind far more than those
done to me. Cordelia Roosevelt is the one I feel truly guilty about
(eventually she will read this, I hope...). I think we made quite a few
"new kids" leave very quickly (then again I was there continuously from
nursery school, so everyone was a new kid to me). However, I do remember
with pleasure kicking various boys in the shins, and terrible things done
to ties (the ruby, the emerald, and so on through all the birthstones).
And the pussy dodgeball my nine-year-old plays now makes me laugh! Those
half-inflated balls ruin all the fun.

And French lunch involved bringing in French food, how could you forget,
Cloudy? I always brought in crepes, some made without milk for Guy. And
someone else always brought in nougat, which I remember was very important
to Mark, who had some kind of "nougat corner."

I loaded up a couple of pictures of the family to the website (at least
those who would consent to be photographed, the dog acted like she was
being electrocuted), since they were too big to attach.

Mary

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[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

:)

[Mark McCabe]

Yes ... the nougat ... I have a vague recollection of it being somehow of great value? DJ?? I feel like you should know this. What was it?

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

THE RUBY!!! I just remembered that too! And how could I forget that I was called Cloudy? At least I remembered the Cattleman and the fact that Ms. Munitz was flat-chested.

[D.J. Martin]

so could i... i actually don't remember your being mean claudia, but i had forgotten about the book of yug, so this could be the breakthrough i am looking for in therapy ;)

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To: "flem...@googlegroups.com" <flem...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:10:48 PM
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Thank you darling. Even today, I could  use your support.

Sent from my iPhone

[D.J. Martin]

david, why don't you set up a conference call for one night since we all seem to be online!  the nougat corner rings a bell but it is a very vague and distant one.  i'll sleep on it, but i bet john will remember.

 

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From: Mark McCabe <momcc...@gmail.com>
To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:15:16 PM
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Yes ... the nougat ... I have a vague recollection of it being somehow of great value? DJ?? I feel like you should know this. What was it?

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Mary R Bachvarova <mbac...@willamette.edu> wrote:

Yes, the evil things I did to others stick in my mind far more than those
done to me. Cordelia Roosevelt is the one I feel truly guilty about
(eventually she will read this, I hope...). I think we made quite a few
"new kids" leave very quickly (then again I was there continuously from
nursery school, so everyone was a new kid to me). However, I do remember
with pleasure kicking various boys in the shins, and terrible things done
to ties (the ruby, the emerald, and so on through all the birthstones).
And the pussy dodgeball my nine-year-old plays now makes me laugh! Those
half-inflated balls ruin all the fun.

And French lunch involved bringing in French food, how could you forget,
Cloudy? I always brought in crepes, some made without milk for Guy. And
someone else always brought in nougat, which I remember was very important
to Mark, who had some kind of "nougat corner."

I loaded up a couple of pictures of the family to the website (at least
those who would consent to be photographed, the dog acted like she was
being electrocuted), since they were too big to attach.

Mary

Mary R. Bachvarova
Assistant Professor
Chair
Classical Studies Program
Willamette University
Salem, OR 97301
USA

503-370-6984

http://www.willamette.edu/cla/classics/faculty/bachvarova.html

[Peri Nielsen]

I don't know.  It was like 35 years ago.  You could have all been TV characters for all I know!

[David Stone]

Here is a weird coinkidink: My wife, Shirra Rockwood Stone, went to
camp Treetops. When I read to her from DJ's note about Maud's dad's
poem, Shirra realized that I was talking about her friend from camp.
Shirra also went to Columbia Prep, btw, after a few disastrous years
at Bankstreet School.

And as I have already mentioned, John Dorfman's wife and I have been
in touch about at least one student from my tutoring. And Peri's best
friend was my first crush.

I wonder what other coincidences are lurking out there -- probably dozens.

[Tony Barkan]

The religion comment brought another name to mind (I won't get into the segue now other than I remember him always wearing a yarmulke): Anthony Bregman.  I think he left school either right before or after I did.

[Mark McCabe]

Yes! I heard from Zabel that he's a movie producer in LA.

[Tony Barkan]

You were obviously there longer than I was.  My only theatrical memory is of being a squirrel in second or third grade.  I do remember very vividly wanting to throw up though, so I sympathize with Kelben.  I also remember the Judo exhibitions in the big gym and specifically Spencer throwing me and me being really proud of the wonderful slap I gave the mat on my fall only to realize that I had just lost the match.  I think I became a significantly more competitive athlete because of that moment.

[David Stone]

Speaking of our theatrical experiences, I remember Little Moon, but I
don't recall the name of the play that we had to learn rhyming lines
to. Was that LM also or a different play? And there was definitely a
play we put on in French. I think that's the one where I had to wear
tights, which I hated.

And speaking of poor Kelben's stomach, I remember that he once threw
up in 4th or 5th grade in the classroom. People separated their desks
around the spill while the teacher cleaned up the floor. There was
that terrible bilious smell in that back right corner of the room.
While the desks were still a few feet apart, Darryl asked if I could
get her a pencil just past that vomit area, and I gallantly
acquiesced. To avoid the still-wet floor, I placed my hands on the
nearby desks so that I could swing my feet over the puddle,
inadvertently placing my left hand in some puke.

[Philip A. Cavalier]

Do you remember playing newcomb (sp?) where we would throw the ball over a volleyball net and have to catch it?

 

I was always the one who brought the baguette for the French lunch.

 

p

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From: Claudia B Rutherford PhD [mailto:claudia.r...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:17 PM
To: flem...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Yes DJ, I think we called you Dudge, or something similarly unflattering. I say this with shame. I am glad you have forgotten most of this.

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

When I think now, as the mother of small children, about the pressure put on our parents for those French lunches. I can't imagine having to whip up some kind of fancy souffle to bring to my son's preschool, for a bunch of international parents to sample.

[Kelben Holbrook]

Tony- I remember you from those Judo classes, and unfortunately being paired up with you in a match once or twice.  I made it to green belt in judo, but gave it up after one exhibition in the big gym in which my butt was kicked repeatedly - M Vallauri put me in the wrong weight class for some reason.  I did go on to wrestle in high school though which had some similar moves.

 

Yes David, the unfortunate incident involving my stomach was the practice for the French play I was referring to earlier.  Thanks for recalling it in such vivid detail!

 

[jennifer rogge]

I was in little moon playing opposite Jori,,, i came across the little orange book in my mother's library a few years back. then there was also the king and I,, the moms used those blue margerine cups to put over our hair in buns!!!!

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[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Did we ever do Mame or was that just something I used to practice with Marla and Darryl? I have this vivid recollection of trying to learn the lines from some song in Mame while sitting in the library with them.

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

[jennifer rogge]

we had an annual talent show, didn't we?

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From: claudia.r...@gmail.com

To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:56:32 -0400

[jennifer rogge]

Do you remember those 2 little french twins we had for a while, they had dark hair and would wear identical little flower dresses(that looked like slips)with mary janes.One was named Robin....

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To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:56:32 -0400

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Maybe that's what it was.

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Oh my god! Yes! I do remember them! It seems from this group that we had this endless parade of other people who would appear in our class for a year or two and then be gone.

[jennifer rogge]

How about the female history teacher that was a giant,,, she had thinning red hair, and massive feet at least  to my child eyes,,,l remember thinking God I hope my feet stop growing( i was already a 9 then) or else i'll have to go to the special shoe store and wind up with ugly shoes like that.

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From: claudia.r...@gmail.com
To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:10:35 -0400

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Lest anyone think that Mark was responsible for every act of violence/intimidation in our class, Jennifer and I have remembered that Marla once tried to stab someone in class with a pencil, in the hand. Does anyone remember who got stabbed and if it was successful?

[jennifer rogge]

it was definitely successful, i remember the blood, it was the first act of true malevolence i ever witnessed, i blanked out on the poor victim,,the pencil victim,, please annouce yourself, we dying to remember

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From: claudia.r...@gmail.com
To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:22:48 -0400

[Mark McCabe]

I don't want to sound too egocentric (and thanks for the soft exoneration), but I still have the end of a pencil lodged in my hand between my thumb and index finger and I'm not sure where it came from other than that it definitely happened in 4th grade. Marla and I were vicious enemies at the time and now that you recount the story, it's perfectly possible that she stabbed me in the hand. I have the lead still visible to prove it! And let me also add that if anyone deserved it, it was me. I'm sure I teased her into a pencil-stabbing frenzy and suffered the just deserts...

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Wow..... I hadn't thought it could have been you, Mark. It is all coming full circle! I think pencil-stabbling is a bit extreme though, regardless of your crimes.

Not to make light of your injury but in our movie version of Fleming, this could be one of the key scenes, when she stabs you and Jennifer looks on in horror. Where is David Zabel, we need his help!

[AHo...@aol.com]

I wasn't the victim, but I did have all sorts of weapons and shanks hidden around that place, just in case.  And in the need for full disclosure, I had figured out a way in my spare time to manipulate one of those scary window grates into a weapon of magnitude that would take out a whole class in seconds.  I wish I could blame Mark, but this one was my own design.

 

Alex

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[David Stone]

I have just contacted (get ready!) Marla! And Nadine! And Darryl!

[D.J. Martin]

those twins were like frightened fawns -- some boy, i don't remember who, in the hallway between the boys & girls bathroom during 3rd grade, leaped into the air in front of them, landed with a thud while screaming some variation of "BOO!!!"  -- they were so frightened that they threw up in unison -- will anyone fess up?  (the culprit might have even said, 'watch, i'll make them throw up' but i may be mis-remembering this part)

as far as ballet -- i took figure skating w/ john, not ballet, but wasn't jeannot's mom a dance teacher?

i have to run, but i will tell you about the nightmare in provence later -- at least claudia and the girls got to sleep in beds in the main house, the boys were remanded to what was essentially a freezing dusty stone floored barn, with a bucket as a toilet (more on the bucket later as well)

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To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:10:13 AM
Subject: RE: DJ and Peri

Do you remember those 2 little french twins we had for a while, they had dark hair and would wear identical little flower dresses(that looked like slips)with mary janes.One was named Robin....

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

I didn't realize you went to Provence too, DJ. I await your traumatic rehashing with baited breath, when you have time to tell it.

[jennifer rogge]

get ready cloudy,, darryl and marla might be coming in here

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From: claudia.r...@gmail.com
To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:12:57 -0400

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

I'm ready.... how could I have forgotten being called Cloudy, or The Cloud? 

[Peri Nielsen]

What is Jared Wisefogal doing now?

[David Stone]

Oh, Peri, I'm sorry you didn't know about Jaret. He died about 3 years
ago after a 4-year battle with non-Hodgkins lymphoma, from what I
understand. Dorfman is still friendly with the family and will try to
get in touch with Amiel, J's brother (who was also in my brother's
class at Fleming). I'm looking forward to hearing from Amiel. Jaret
was a professor of East Asian studies, I believe.

Peri (and everyone): If you want, you should be able to look at the
archived messages. In many cases, I have brief bios about various
alums, and in one of my first notes, I mentioned Jaret.

Take care!

David

[Peri Nielsen]

Oh, that's too bad.  Thanks for the update.  I'll check out the archives.

[Mark McCabe]

I can't believe Marla and Darryl have been contacted. Darryl was always quite advanced in a number of ways :) and Marla stabbed me in the hand. She also was deadly on the shins with those Fry boots. I think I bought a pair for pure self defense. Incredible ...

 

I'm actually in the hospital, between patients. If I lose my job I will find you David Stone ... This Fleming Renaissance is keeping me up at nights with memories flooding my mind. Where is the Yugger? And why hasn't Le Dorf gotten in on this? And for Christ's sake Sam, speak up ...

 

Seattle, Washington

[jennifer rogge]

i know, my clients are getting neglected,,, i can't help but keep checking back here,,,

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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:53:38 -0700
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Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

[msm...@optonline.net]

Hi, Claudia!!! I was just added today and ah, to my surprise - I saw my name. To our shame...I believe it was something we did secretly. LOL.  Darryl and I had a thing for both Mame and The Sound of Music.

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[Mark McCabe]

Luckily my patients today have chronic hepatitis, nothing that can't wait a few minutes while I obsess over this insane remembrance ...

Seattle, Washington

[jennifer rogge]

im laughing,,, marla has just joined us,, any welcoming words to her mark?

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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:02:11 -0700

[Mark McCabe]

Hello Marla ... you're very famous for various acts committed in the 70's against boys who probably deserved much of your ire ...

Seattle, Washington

--
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Department of Internal Medicine

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Hello there! Oh, don't be ashamed. We all have stuff we would rather forget from those years. Best to just laugh about it here.

[Mark McCabe]

Exume all the skeletons!!!

Seattle, Washington

[David Stone]

As to where John is: He has (wisely!) chosen to receive only a daily
version of all of these emails. It's an option I'll gladly switch
anyone over to in case the obsession turns into an addiction.

Vero has always switched over to a sort of summary, tho I'm not sure
how it works.

I'm off to NYC soon, so I'll have to miss out for an hour and a half.
I fully expect another 40 messages when I get there (as happened after
I got off the phone with Nadine: 42 messages!).

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

yeah, I have been out of work for two weeks with the worst flu ever. Today is supposed to be catch up day--writing reports and such. Well I am catching up, but I'm catching up with you guys. Is it snowing in NYC today? It is snowing here all day, yet again. I have had it!

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

If we ever have a reunion I think every single person will be required to show up in Frye boots. I was not allowed to purchase them. I had feet that turned in as a child, and my parents even had me wear god-awful braces as a toddler. My parents were convinced that if I wore Frye boots or wedge sandals or any of the other cool shoes in 7th or 8th grade I would be disabled for life. I pleaded with them, I thought my popularity would soar if I could just get those shoes.... but to no avail.

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

[jennifer rogge]

Frye boots were all the rage,,, i wanted them too!!!! i think they're making a come back,,

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From: claudia.r...@gmail.com

To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:12:01 -0400

[msm...@optonline.net]

Okay, everyone.. I hang my head in shame.  I am so sorry, Mark, that I stabbed you in the hand. However, it seems "handy" now that you are in a a hospital. :)  As for my Frye boots... perhaps, I needed the self defense.  Anyone who 'knew' me at the time, knew with what I was dealing.  Goodness knows, Claudia did.  There was no performance of Mame.  That was library fun between Claudia's reading (and re-reading?) of Agatha Christie.  Darryl and I had an affinity for musicals - both Mame and The Sound of Music in particular. I know I won't be in the bios, so I'll fill all of you in a little - I'm married. My daughter is 13.  She just had her bat mitzvah. She's a good girl and student.  I was diagnosed with MS in 1993.  Oh, and I live in Glen Rock, NJ. (25 min. door-to-door to my mother's apartment.)

----- Original Message -----
From: Claudia B Rutherford PhD
Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:13 pm

[Evan Tawil]

I remember Marla used to be obsessed with and then I believe worked at the store on Madison Avenue: The Paper House.

 

Is that correct?

 

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From: flem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:flem...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jennifer rogge
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:04 PM
To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: DJ and Peri

 

im laughing,,, marla has just joined us,, any welcoming words to her mark?

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[msm...@optonline.net]

Oh, hardly all of them. BUT, has anyone remembered that Grant Phillips existed?  I still have a pencil mark on my left shoulder from him. LOL

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark McCabe
Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri
To: flem...@googlegroups.com

> Exume all the skeletons!!!
>
> On 3/31/08, Claudia B Rutherford PhD

> wrote:
> >
> > Hello there! Oh, don't be ashamed. We all have stuff we would rather
> > forget from those years. Best to just laugh about it here.

> > *Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.*
> > *Licensed Psychologist HSP*
> > *PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)*
> > *235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)*
> > *413-475-0086 (phone)*
> > *909-752-4363 (fax)*

> --
> M.O. McCabe MD
> Department of Internal Medicine

[Evan Tawil]

Stone.............please sign me up for the daily version as I am
getting overloaded (but loving it)

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[Mark McCabe]

No hard feeling Marla. I'm sure I completely deserved it. In retrospect I'm amazed more of you didn't stab me ... sorry to hear about your MS. I'm sure your fighting it with the tenacity and vigor you showed back in the day :)

 

Mark

 

Seattle, Washington

[jennifer rogge]

I owe Grant an apology for smearing vaseline in his hair on the bus ride to school,, i had an accomplice and we deliberately brought the vaseline. Sorry Grant.... Perhaps it was Darryl that was my accomplice.

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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:22:14 +0000
From: msm...@optonline.net

Subject: Re: DJ and Peri
To: flem...@googlegroups.com

CC: flem...@googlegroups.com

[msm...@optonline.net]

Hi, Evan...

No, I never worked at The Paper House.  I just spent a lot of time there buying pins, paper, pens, etc.  Maybe that's why I spend a lot of time in craft stores now??? I must be a creature of habit.  Thanks for reminding me, Evan.

> On 3/31/08, jennifer rogge wrote:
>
> i know, my clients are getting neglected,,, i can't help but keep
> checking back here,,,
>
> ________________________________
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:53:38 -0700
> From: momcc...@gmail.com
> To: flem...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: DJ and Peri
>
> I can't believe Marla and Darryl have been contacted. Darryl was

> alwaysquite advanced in a number of ways :) and Marla stabbed me

> in the hand.
> She also was deadly on the shins with those Fry boots. I think I

> boughta pair for pure self defense. Incredible ...

>
>
>
> I'm actually in the hospital, between patients. If I lose my job
> I will
> find you David Stone ... This Fleming Renaissance is keeping me
> up at
> nights with memories flooding my mind. Where is the Yugger? And why
> hasn't Le Dorf gotten in on this? And for Christ's sake Sam,
> speak up
> ...
>
>
>
> On 3/31/08, Peri Nielsen wrote:
>
> Oh, that's too bad. Thanks for the update. I'll check out the
> archives.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:37 AM, David Stone

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Marla, I forgot about my obsession with Agatha Christie books. 

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

[Kelben Holbrook]

Wasn't everybody buying stickers from that place at some point?

 

Hi Marla - do you remember running into each other in an upper east side bar around 1993?  I was working nearby at Bloomberg at the time.

 

Kelben

 

[msm...@optonline.net]

Oh, all should know that I am fully mobile and um, if wearing Frye boots, I believe I could do quite a number. lol - I also participate in the MS walk every year and will continue every year that I possibly can - Except my daughter, Amanda, is now team captain (part of her bat mitzvah project) Team Name: Marla's Miracles

Claudia - Do you remember when we would walk past the "CH?" because we couldn't/wouldn't say "it?"

> --
> M.O. McCabe MD
> Department of Internal Medicine

[msm...@optonline.net]

Yes, Kelben, I also remember running into you years earlier at a bar on 60th between Madison and Park.  Gosh, did we drink a lot or did we have a magnetism? hehe

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

There was also a candy store in the 80s on Madison Avenue everyone loved, I can't remember the name. Which reminds me of another birthday party memory.... Serendipity!

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Marla, I am sorry to say I can't remember what you are referring to. How could this be? I thought I remembered everything from those days! What is CH?

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

Marla I am glad to hear you are in good health.

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

[msm...@optonline.net]

At that particular time, we had decided that we would not look in the direction of... nor say the word, "church." The most we would say is "ch" to refer to the large building with the cross on it.  The one time I remember vividly, we were walkin with my mother.  She tried to figure it out... but could not.  When I told her about this googlegroup, she asked who was involved, when I mentioned your name, she reminded me of "the church thing." :)

[Kelben Holbrook]

Yes that's right.  I think it was a little of both!  I also remember a pretty cool birthday party at your house.

On 31/03/2008, msm...@optonline.net <msm...@optonline.net> wrote:

[jennifer rogge]

shite, i'm really late now, how about tuescher chocolatiers off of madison ave. would love the recipe to those frozen hot chocolates from Serendipity

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From: claudia.r...@gmail.com

To: flem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:41:33 -0400

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

How do I not remember this? Was I going through some kind of religious period?

[msm...@optonline.net]

Ahem, Kelben...don't ruin this for me.  I have a reputation of Frye boots and hurting boys to protect here.  I kicked you in the shins when I saw you and then, stabbed you with a pencil, okay?  Just go with it.  I think I'm going to have to switch to the daily thing too. I can see this interfering with rl already.  You guys are very funny.  Btw, while some wanted Frye boots, all I wanted was penny loafers - to put real pennies in.  Maybe I'll go buy some now so my daughter and her friends can call me a "freak."

----- Original Message -----
From: Kelben Holbrook
Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: RE: DJ and Peri
To: flem...@googlegroups.com

> Yes that's right. I think it was a little of both! I also
> remember a
> pretty cool birthday party at your house.
>

[David Stone]

Marla, Grant Philips has already garnered mention in a few earlier notes, tho only for existing (he was in my 2nd grade class). We have no contact info for him at all.

People, if you really want to get the daily version, just let me know, but don't waffle. I'm about to put Evan on it, and Dorfman and Vero are already there, with Marla considering (LMK for sure).

Kelben, I'd forgotten about that thing with the pencils for Jeannot's seat.

Do y'all remember that we had a candy and high-end yummies shop bw 61st and 62nd St and Madison? Charles, or something, was the name. I stole 65 cents' worth of candies from there and felt horribly guilty. My mom suggested that I sneak them back the money in a subsequent visit or two, thereby teaching me a rather terrible lesson in theft, personal responsibility, and so forth.

Kelben, I remember the stickies!

Remember Wacky Packs? I now have a huge collection of them (from a few years ago, when I got them on eBay).

[Claudia B Rutherford PhD]

I remember that store Charles and Company vividly. We used to buy pastilles there while waiting for the Madison Avenue bus. I think they hated us in there. We were always so disruptive.

You can actually opt for the digest version on your own, it's easy to set up. I did it at first, but then my impulse control weakened, and I went back to getting the individual emails. Which could explain why I haven't gotten a damn thing done today for work! I just can't resist, it's too much fun.

It's funny you should mention Wacky Packs. We have a good friend who is a comic book illustrator and he managed to get us the most amazing wedding present--a huge wall sized poster with the whole Wacky Pack collection. We have it upstairs, lovingly framed. I also liked Everlasting Gobstoppers. I used to buy them at that candy store in the 80s on Madison (Sweet Temptation maybe?). They would take up my entire mouth and change colors and flavors for at least an hour. This could be why I had eight cavities by fourth grade.

Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.

Licensed Psychologist HSP

PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)

235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)

413-475-0086 (phone)

909-752-4363 (fax)

[msm...@optonline.net]

Isn't that the place where we also bought french rolls with butter AND cream cheese???? It didn't seem to go driectly there back then?

----- Original Message -----
From: Claudia B Rutherford PhD
Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

[Tony Barkan]

Sorry to hear that.

[Kelben Holbrook]

I too have a Wacky Pack collection that I've held on to since Fleming.  I've always wondered if they are worth anything.

 

OK, I'm trying to get this tax monkey off my back so that I can get Bush's tax rebate, so over and out for me for now.

 

[David Stone]

I have that same poster, the one with about 512 Wackys shrunk down so they all fit. And I have a few other Wacky items. My kids love them too.

[mag...@hotmail.co.uk]

Robin and Hilary Newman (sp). One of them is in my 3 orange photo.

I was in Little Moon as well, I remember going to Chinatown to buy a
costume - ie red satin pajamas - or was that for the King and I? - and
a parasol. Chinatown shops had a particular smell.

I also remember hoping very hard that Mark, Alex and/or Evan would be
in my class because they always cracked me up.

Alex, my mother remembers you (and Tony Barkan) as a 'gentleman' - did
your mother teach you to open doors for the laydeez or help them on
with their coats or something ? That's factors into her memory...

On Mar 31, 5:02 pm, "D.J. Martin" <d_j_mar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> those twins were like frightened fawns -- some boy, i don't remember who, in the hallway between the boys & girls bathroom during 3rd grade, leaped into the air in front of them, landed with a thud while screaming some variation of "BOO!!!" -- they were so frightened that they threw up in unison -- will anyone fess up? (the culprit might have even said, 'watch, i'll make them throw up' but i may be mis-remembering this part)
>
> as far as ballet -- i took figure skating w/ john, not ballet, but wasn't jeannot's mom a dance teacher?
>
> i have to run, but i will tell you about the nightmare in provence later -- at least claudia and the girls got to sleep in beds in the main house, the boys were remanded to what was essentially a freezing dusty stone floored barn, with a bucket as a toilet (more on the bucket later as well)
>
> ----- Original Message ----

> From: jennifer rogge <rogge...@hotmail.com>
> To: flem...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:10:13 AM
> Subject: RE: DJ and Peri
>

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> Do you remember those 2 little french twins we had for a while, they had dark hair and would wear identical little flower dresses(that looked like slips)with mary janes.One was named Robin....
>

> From: claudia.rutherf...@gmail.com
> To: flem...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:56:32 -0400
>
> Did we ever do Mame or was that just something I used to practice with Marla and Darryl? I have this vivid recollection of trying to learn the lines from some song in Mame while sitting in the library with them.

> Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.
> Licensed Psychologist HSP
> PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)
> 235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)
> 413-475-0086 (phone)
> 909-752-4363 (fax)
>

> On Mar 31, 2008, at 9:53 AM, jennifer rogge wrote:
>
> I was in little moon playing opposite Jori,,, i came across the little orange book in my mother's library a few years back. then there was also the king and I,, the moms used those blue margerine cups to put over our hair in buns!!!!
>
> > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:05:45 -0400

> > From: unicycle.newpa...@gmail.com
> > To: flem...@googlegroups.com

> > Subject: Re: DJ and Peri
>

> > Speaking of our theatrical experiences, I remember Little Moon, but I
> > don't recall the name of the play that we had to learn rhyming lines
> > to. Was that LM also or a different play? And there was definitely a
> > play we put on in French. I think that's the one where I had to wear
> > tights, which I hated.
>

> > And speaking of poor Kelben's stomach, I remember that he once threw

[mag...@hotmail.co.uk]

And was anyone else in The Sound of Music, directed by Ms Acker ?
Samantha Gittes was Do, I was Re...

I also remember waiting for my name to be called to get on the
schoolbus at the end of the day, a large-ish room on the second or
third floor, being watched over by some very very scary Scottish
school nurse.

And the busdrivers (a succession of Murrays) - one of whom gave out
goodies - like what you'd get in a crackerjack box - on a Friday.

[jennifer rogge]

yes nobody has mentioned up till now that we was scottish, and she used to say something about a wet noodle

> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:21:15 -0700

> Subject: Re: DJ and Peri

> From: mag...@hotmail.co.uk
> To: flem...@googlegroups.com

[mag...@hotmail.co.uk]

Grant is now a boxing promoter (says my sister) so it's a good you've
apologised.

On Mar 31, 7:30 pm, jennifer rogge <rogge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I owe Grant an apology for smearing vaseline in his hair on the bus ride to school,, i had an accomplice and we deliberately brought the vaseline. Sorry Grant.... Perhaps it was Darryl that was my accomplice.
>

> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:22:14 +0000From: msma...@optonline.netSubject: Re: DJ and PeriTo: flemin...@googlegroups.comCC: flem...@googlegroups.com
>
> Oh, hardly all of them. BUT, has anyone remembered that Grant Phillips existed? I still have a pencil mark on my left shoulder from him. LOL----- Original Message -----From: Mark McCabe Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:08 pmSubject: Re: DJ and PeriTo: flem...@googlegroups.com> Exume all the skeletons!!!> > On 3/31/08, Claudia B Rutherford PhD > wrote:> >> > Hello there! Oh, don't be ashamed. We all have stuff we would rather> > forget from those years. Best to just laugh about it here.> > *Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.*> > *Licensed Psychologist HSP*> > *PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)*> > *235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)*> > *413-475-0086 (phone)*> > *909-752-4363 (fax)*> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mar 31, 2008, at 12:59 PM, msma...@optonline.net wrote:> >> > Hi, Claudia!!! I was just added today and ah, to my surprise -> I saw my> > name. To our shame...I believe it was something we did > secretly. LOL.> > Darryl and I had a thing for both Mame and The Sound of Music.> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: Claudia B Rutherford PhD> > Date: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:13 pm> > Subject: Re: DJ and Peri> > To: flem...@googlegroups.com> >> > > I didn't realize you went to Provence too, DJ. I await your> > > traumatic> > > rehashing with baited breath, when you have time to tell it.> > > Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.> > > Licensed Psychologist HSP> > > PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)> > > 235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)> > > 413-475-0086 (phone)> > > 909-752-4363 (fax)> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Mar 31, 2008, at 12:02 PM, D.J. Martin wrote:> > >> > > > those twins were like frightened fawns -- some boy, i don't> > > remember> > > > who, in the hallway between the boys & girls bathroom during> > > 3rd> > > > grade, leaped into the air in front of them, landed with a> > > thud> > > > while screaming some variation of "BOO!!!" -- they were so> > > > frightened that they threw up in unison -- will anyone fess> > > up?> > > > (the culprit might have even said, 'watch, i'll make them> > > throw up'> > > > but i may be mis-remembering this part)> > > >> > > > as far as ballet -- i took figure skating w/ john, not ballet,> > > but> > > > wasn't jeannot's mom a dance teacher?> > > >> > > > i have to run, but i will tell you about the nightmare in> > > provence> > > > later -- at least claudia and the girls got to sleep in beds> > > in the> > > > main house, the boys were remanded to what was essentially a> > > > freezing dusty stone floored barn, with a bucket as a toilet> > > (more> > > > on the bucket later as well)> > > >> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----> > > > From: jennifer rogge> > > > To: flem...@googlegroups.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:10:13 AM> > > > Subject: RE: DJ and Peri> > > >> > > > Do you remember those 2 little french twins we had for a> > > while, they> > > > had dark hair and would wear identical little flower> > > dresses(that> > > > looked like slips)with mary janes.One was named Robin....> > > >> > > > From: claudia.rutherf...@gmail.com> > > > To: flem...@googlegroups.com> > > > Subject: Re: DJ and Peri> > > > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:56:32 -0400> > > >> > > > Did we ever do Mame or was that just something I used to> > > practice> > > > with Marla and Darryl? I have this vivid recollection of> > > trying to> > > > learn the lines from some song in Mame while sitting in the> > > library> > > > with them.> > > >> > > > Claudia B. Rutherford Ph.D.> > > > Licensed Psychologist HSP> > > > PO Box 87, Conway MA 01341 (mail)> > > > 235 Greenfield Rd, S Deerfield MA 01373 (office)> > > > 413-475-0086 (phone)> > > > 909-752-4363 (fax)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Mar 31, 2008, at 9:53 AM, jennifer rogge wrote:> > > >> > > > I was in little moon playing opposite Jori,,, i came across> > > the> > > > little orange book in my mother's library a few years back.> > > then> > > > there was also the king and I,, the moms used those blue> > > margerine> > > > cups to put over our hair in buns!!!!> > > >> > > > > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:05:45 -0400> > > > > From: unicycle.newpa...@gmail.com> > > > > To: flem...@googlegroups.com> > > > > Subject: Re: DJ and Peri> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Speaking of our theatrical experiences, I remember Little> > > Moon,> > > > but I> > > > > don't recall the name of the play that we had to learn> > > rhyming lines> > > > > to. Was that LM also or a different play? And there was> > > definitely a> > > > > play we put on in French. I think that's the one where I had> > > to wear> > > > > tights, which I hated.> > > > >> > > > > And speaking of poor Kelben's stomach, I remember that he> > > once threw> > > > > up in 4th or 5th grade in the classroom. People separated> > > their> > > > desks> > > > > around the spill while the teacher cleaned up the floor.> > > There was> > > > > that terrible bilious smell in that back right corner of > the room.> > > > > While the desks were still a few feet apart, Darryl > asked if> > > I could> > > > > get her a pencil just past that vomit area, and I gallantly> > > > > acquiesced. To avoid the still-wet floor, I placed my hands> > > on the> > > > > nearby desks so that I could swing my feet over the puddle,> > > > > inadvertently placing my left hand in some puke.> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > -- > M.O. McCabe MD> Department of Internal Medicine> University of Washington Hospitals> Seattle, Washington> >_________________________________________________________________
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[AHo...@aol.com]

Maggie,

 

I am flattered that I managed to crack you up along with my other two accomplices.  As a matter of fact, I'm taking solace in the fact that my antics were perceived by somebody as fun because a quick cursory review of my old Fleming report cards would indicate that our teachers were not very amused.  I guess I'll have to give my mother the credit for the whole "gentleman" thing.  I guess I have in innate "do-gooder" gene that has finally landed me on the firefighter square.

 

Sorry it's taken me so long to say hello on this board.  Welcome!  I have so many wonderful memories about you.

 

And a welcome to you too, John Dorfman and Diana C.!

 

Alex

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