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Leroy N. Soetoro
May 15, 2012, 6:38:13 PM5/15/12
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martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
revealing the quantity.
The exchange occurred before a WKMG reporter identified himself as a
journalist.
The seller's advertisement stated, "[We] support Zimmerman and believe he
is innocent and that he shot a thug." The ad has been taken down.
The station does not identify the "popular firearms auction website" and
says it has not been able to determine the identify of the seller.
Before the reporter identified himself, the seller said targets were still
available, afterward saying they would no longer be sold, the station
writes. The targets cost $8, plus $7.50 shipping.
An attorney for Trayvon's family called the target "disgusting."
"It's a sad certain segment of our society that would think you could make
a profit off the killing of a teenage boy," said Natale Jackson.
Zimmerman's attorney denounced the targets as "hate-mongering."
"This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility,"
said Mark O'Mara. "It's this type of hatred -- that's what this is, it's
hate-mongering -- that's going to make it more difficult to try this
case."
Zimmerman is being tried for second-degree murder. He is free on bond.
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Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
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Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
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Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
revealing the quantity.
The exchange occurred before a WKMG reporter identified himself as a
journalist.
The seller's advertisement stated, "[We] support Zimmerman and believe he
is innocent and that he shot a thug." The ad has been taken down.
The station does not identify the "popular firearms auction website" and
says it has not been able to determine the identify of the seller.
Before the reporter identified himself, the seller said targets were still
available, afterward saying they would no longer be sold, the station
writes. The targets cost $8, plus $7.50 shipping.
An attorney for Trayvon's family called the target "disgusting."
"It's a sad certain segment of our society that would think you could make
a profit off the killing of a teenage boy," said Natale Jackson.
Zimmerman's attorney denounced the targets as "hate-mongering."
"This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility,"
said Mark O'Mara. "It's this type of hatred -- that's what this is, it's
hate-mongering -- that's going to make it more difficult to try this
case."
Zimmerman is being tried for second-degree murder. He is free on bond.
--
Obama's black racist USAG appointee.
Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
ruled by the black man, cracker!"
Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
York's million dollar tax evasion.
Barack Obama and Eric Holder, committed treason by knowingly and
deliberately arming enemies of the United States of America through
Operation Fast and Furious. Complicit in the murder of Federal employees
during the execution of their duties.
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Pete
May 15, 2012, 6:55:50 PM5/15/12
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In article <XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121>
35482.jpg
He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
Capitalism rocks!
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
>
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>
> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> revealing the quantity.
http://www.thegrio.com/assets_c/2012/05/hoodie-thumb-400xauto-
>
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>
> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> revealing the quantity.
35482.jpg
He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
Capitalism rocks!
Juris Diction
May 15, 2012, 7:51:45 PM5/15/12
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In article <9095D0PY4104...@reece.net.au>,
Only sick fucks would find pleasure in that shit, -and republicans.
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Republicans seem determined to take
EVERYBODY to hell along with them.
Metspitzer
May 15, 2012, 8:15:23 PM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 22:38:13 +0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
<leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
>http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
>Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
The hoodies are pretty popular too.
<leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
>http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
>Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
Did you see these guys?
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/article/255240/8/VIDEO-US-Army-soldier-brutally-beaten-in-South-Tampa-
abelincoln
May 15, 2012, 8:32:08 PM5/15/12
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On 5/15/2012 4:51 PM, Juris Diction wrote:
> In article <9095D0PY4104...@reece.net.au>,
> "Pete" <pe...@fu.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121>
>> "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>>
>>> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
>>> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
>>> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>>>
>>> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
>>> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
>>> revealing the quantity.
>>
>> http://www.thegrio.com/assets_c/2012/05/hoodie-thumb-400xauto-
>> 35482.jpg
>>
>> He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
>> Capitalism rocks!
>
>
> Only sick fucks would find pleasure in that shit, -and republicans.
>
And Mexicans, and most everyone that hates gangstas'.
> In article <9095D0PY4104...@reece.net.au>,
> "Pete" <pe...@fu.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121>
>> "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>>
>>> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
>>> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
>>> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>>>
>>> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
>>> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
>>> revealing the quantity.
>>
>> http://www.thegrio.com/assets_c/2012/05/hoodie-thumb-400xauto-
>> 35482.jpg
>>
>> He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
>> Capitalism rocks!
>
>
> Only sick fucks would find pleasure in that shit, -and republicans.
>
Vandy Grad
May 15, 2012, 8:49:51 PM5/15/12
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In article <iwas-15A75B.1...@news.shawcable.net>
while letting hemosexuals pending discharge "protect" them.
What do you suppose is happening there?
Democrats love that shit.
Juris Diction <iw...@theditch.com> wrote:
>
> In article <9095D0PY4104...@reece.net.au>,
> "Pete" <pe...@fu.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121>
> > "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> > > martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
> > >
> > > Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> > > a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> > > seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
> > >
> > > The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
> > > and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> > > in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
> > >
> > > Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> > > in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> > > revealing the quantity.
> >
> > http://www.thegrio.com/assets_c/2012/05/hoodie-thumb-400xauto-
> > 35482.jpg
> >
> > He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
> > Capitalism rocks!
>
>
> Only sick fucks would find pleasure in that shit, -and republicans.
Your boy Obama likes holding people in GitMo with no charges
>
> In article <9095D0PY4104...@reece.net.au>,
> "Pete" <pe...@fu.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121>
> > "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> > > martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
> > >
> > > Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> > > a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> > > seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
> > >
> > > The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
> > > and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> > > in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
> > >
> > > Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> > > in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> > > revealing the quantity.
> >
> > http://www.thegrio.com/assets_c/2012/05/hoodie-thumb-400xauto-
> > 35482.jpg
> >
> > He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
> > Capitalism rocks!
>
>
> Only sick fucks would find pleasure in that shit, -and republicans.
while letting hemosexuals pending discharge "protect" them.
What do you suppose is happening there?
Democrats love that shit.
Rich
May 15, 2012, 9:26:51 PM5/15/12
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"Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroys...@usurper.org> wrote in
news:XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121:
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
Ha ha! In Canada. "man targets" are prohibited unless shooting combat.
Too bad.
news:XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121:
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
Ha ha! In Canada. "man targets" are prohibited unless shooting combat.
Too bad.
Dan
May 17, 2012, 11:34:11 AM5/17/12
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On 5/15/2012 3:38 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
Dan
Dano
May 17, 2012, 11:40:30 AM5/17/12
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"Dan" wrote in message news:XT8tr.32642$Gm4....@newsfe01.iad...
=================================
That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent, racist
scum.
That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent, racist
scum.
max headroom
May 17, 2012, 12:32:03 PM5/17/12
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Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
> =================================
> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent, racist scum.
No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of thugs I've seen featured burly
white guys.
>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
> =================================
> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent, racist scum.
white guys.
RD Sandman
May 17, 2012, 12:47:28 PM5/17/12
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Bingo!!! It wasn't a very bright thing to do.
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RD Sandman
May 17, 2012, 12:48:06 PM5/17/12
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Dano
May 17, 2012, 1:13:57 PM5/17/12
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"max headroom" wrote in message
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================================================
Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
Flybd5
May 17, 2012, 1:43:25 PM5/17/12
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On 05/15/2012 04:51 PM, Juris Diction wrote:
> In article<9095D0PY4104...@reece.net.au>,
> "Pete"<pe...@fu.com> wrote:
>
>> In article<XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121>
>> "Leroy N. Soetoro"<leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>>
>>> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
>>> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
>>> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>>>
>>> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
>>> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
>>> revealing the quantity.
>>
>> http://www.thegrio.com/assets_c/2012/05/hoodie-thumb-400xauto-
>> 35482.jpg
>>
>> He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
>> Capitalism rocks!
>
>
> Only sick fucks would find pleasure in that shit, -and republicans.
>
And most people who don't like gang banging social leeches roaming their
> In article<9095D0PY4104...@reece.net.au>,
> "Pete"<pe...@fu.com> wrote:
>
>> In article<XnsA0549F10D2...@202.177.16.121>
>> "Leroy N. Soetoro"<leroys...@usurper.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>>
>>> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
>>> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
>>> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>>>
>>> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
>>> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
>>> revealing the quantity.
>>
>> http://www.thegrio.com/assets_c/2012/05/hoodie-thumb-400xauto-
>> 35482.jpg
>>
>> He created more jobs in a couple days than Obama did.
>> Capitalism rocks!
>
>
> Only sick fucks would find pleasure in that shit, -and republicans.
>
neighborhoods.
RD Sandman
May 17, 2012, 1:47:53 PM5/17/12
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp3bkm$9n3$1...@dont-email.me:
Yes, I have and he is essentially correct......on the white guys being
the ones portrayed on the targets....I do not supply any claim of a
social agenda for that.
the ones portrayed on the targets....I do not supply any claim of a
social agenda for that.
Tommy
May 17, 2012, 1:53:49 PM5/17/12
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On 17 May 2012, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> posted some
news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
There's that flawed liberal math again. "One" equals "many."
Some guy engages in a money making opportunity, creating jobs and
stimulating the economy. Liberals say working, making money, and
creating work for others is a bad thing, and should be left up to the
government.
news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
Some guy engages in a money making opportunity, creating jobs and
stimulating the economy. Liberals say working, making money, and
creating work for others is a bad thing, and should be left up to the
government.
Dano
May 17, 2012, 2:00:08 PM5/17/12
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"Flybd5" wrote in message news:jp3d9e$gfk$2...@wieslauf.sub.de...
=============================================
That's how scum sucking racists like you refer black folks. We get it.
Hope you're proud. Your mama must have been one stinking bitch.
That's how scum sucking racists like you refer black folks. We get it.
Hope you're proud. Your mama must have been one stinking bitch.
Dano
May 17, 2012, 2:02:35 PM5/17/12
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"Tommy" wrote in message
news:f50c5b6126b76929...@not-for-mail.invalid...
==========================================
Really? ONE? Read the racist posts right here Adolph. Sounds like Aryan
Nation on meth.
Speaking of which...cooking meth is a good righteous form of capitalism too
isn't it? By YOUR foolish, demented reckoning anyway.
news:f50c5b6126b76929...@not-for-mail.invalid...
Really? ONE? Read the racist posts right here Adolph. Sounds like Aryan
Nation on meth.
Speaking of which...cooking meth is a good righteous form of capitalism too
isn't it? By YOUR foolish, demented reckoning anyway.
BTR1701
May 17, 2012, 2:25:56 PM5/17/12
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In article <XnsA0566DD7B...@216.196.121.131>,
maintain qualifications for my job, and every single paper human target
that I've ever seen are either silhouettes or white guys.
Even the zombie targets are white zombies.
RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp3bkm$9n3$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> > "max headroom" wrote in message
> > news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
> >
> > Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
> >
> >>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayv
> >>> on- martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
> >
> >>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were
> >>> sold on
> >>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the
> >>> unidentified seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
> >
> >> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
> >
> >> =================================
> >
> >> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
> >> racist scum.
> >
> > No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of
> > thugs I've seen featured burly
> > white guys.
> >
> > ================================================
> >
> > Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
> Yes, I have and he is essentially correct......on the white guys being
> the ones portrayed on the targets....I do not supply any claim of a
> social agenda for that.
Yes, he is correct. I've spent years on firing ranges because I have to
> "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp3bkm$9n3$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> > "max headroom" wrote in message
> > news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
> >
> > Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
> >
> >>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayv
> >>> on- martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
> >
> >>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were
> >>> sold on
> >>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the
> >>> unidentified seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
> >
> >> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
> >
> >> =================================
> >
> >> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
> >> racist scum.
> >
> > No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of
> > thugs I've seen featured burly
> > white guys.
> >
> > ================================================
> >
> > Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
> Yes, I have and he is essentially correct......on the white guys being
> the ones portrayed on the targets....I do not supply any claim of a
> social agenda for that.
maintain qualifications for my job, and every single paper human target
that I've ever seen are either silhouettes or white guys.
Even the zombie targets are white zombies.
RD Sandman
May 17, 2012, 3:04:13 PM5/17/12
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Jeff M
May 17, 2012, 3:22:00 PM5/17/12
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On 5/17/2012 12:47 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> "Dano"<janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp3bkm$9n3$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> "max headroom" wrote in message
>> news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>>
>> Dano<janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayv
>>>> on- martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>
>>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were
>>>> sold on
>>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the
>>>> unidentified seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>
>>> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
>>
>>> =================================
>>
>>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>>> racist scum.
>>
>> No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of
>> thugs I've seen featured burly
>> white guys.
>>
>> ================================================
>>
>> Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
> Yes, I have and he is essentially correct......on the white guys being
> the ones portrayed on the targets....I do not supply any claim of a
> social agenda for that.
Yep. Printed firearms targets depicting "realistic" images of armed or
> "Dano"<janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp3bkm$9n3$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> "max headroom" wrote in message
>> news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>>
>> Dano<janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayv
>>>> on- martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>
>>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were
>>>> sold on
>>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the
>>>> unidentified seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>
>>> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
>>
>>> =================================
>>
>>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>>> racist scum.
>>
>> No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of
>> thugs I've seen featured burly
>> white guys.
>>
>> ================================================
>>
>> Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
> Yes, I have and he is essentially correct......on the white guys being
> the ones portrayed on the targets....I do not supply any claim of a
> social agenda for that.
menacing suspects almost invariably depict Caucasians, or at least none
of many versions I've seen have never depicted any other race. I
suppose the obvious reason is that neither the manufacturers nor the
institutional customers who buy in quantity (law enforcement agencies,
mainly) don't want to risk accusations of racism. A photograph or video
of a firing line of white police officers training to shoot at black
men, using them as targets, is not an image any police chief would want
the public to see.
On the other hand, there is an untapped market there. I suppose targets
featuring exaggeratedly racist and stereotypical images of black people,
the darker skinned and thicker lipped the better, dressed in an
outlandish version of "ghetto" urban style, maybe with one arm around
the throat of a pretty little white girl and the other holding holding a
gun to her head, would be tremendously popular with a certain segment of
the shooting public. You know, racists. They would doubtless enjoy
blazing away at such targets, and derive great satisfaction from that
bit of simulated wish fulfillment.
emoneyjoe
May 17, 2012, 5:07:15 PM5/17/12
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:13:57 -0400, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Come on lefty, get a newsreader and configure
the quoted text markers.
wrote:
the quoted text markers.
emoneyjoe
May 17, 2012, 5:14:25 PM5/17/12
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violate rights.
Scout
May 17, 2012, 6:31:44 PM5/17/12
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"Dan" <dnad...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Scout
May 17, 2012, 6:33:30 PM5/17/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
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Jeff M
May 17, 2012, 6:43:38 PM5/17/12
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present. But I would most likely just buy more of the same, or maybe
more "shoot'n'see" type targets to spare the ol' eyeballs. Shooting at
pictures of a person, any person, isn't my thing.
Scout
May 17, 2012, 6:55:13 PM5/17/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
Jeff M
May 17, 2012, 7:05:51 PM5/17/12
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so there's not likely to be much profit in it, after all. is that what
you're trying to say?
It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money you
stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n' Marlboros. Now
you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you been a'wantin'!
Scout
May 17, 2012, 7:18:29 PM5/17/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
Jeff M
May 17, 2012, 8:24:43 PM5/17/12
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>> want, so there's not likely to be much profit in it, after all. is
>> that what you're trying to say?
>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>> been a'wantin'!
> Sorry
>> that what you're trying to say?
>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>> been a'wantin'!
Yes you are.
max headroom
May 17, 2012, 9:07:37 PM5/17/12
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's words like that, making him
look like he said something he didn't really say. YOU are one smart fella!
Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
Just sayin'....
look like he said something he didn't really say. YOU are one smart fella!
Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
Just sayin'....
Scout
May 17, 2012, 10:03:21 PM5/17/12
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Jeff M
May 17, 2012, 11:22:43 PM5/17/12
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you posturing nitwit. You know nothing about morality; you're just
working overtime at being an jackhole.
Jeff M
May 17, 2012, 11:37:25 PM5/17/12
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You bigoted, racist troglodytes sure do go around a lot these days,
smirkingly calling everybody else "bigoted" and "racist," as if it's a
clever or witty way to obscure your own disgusting attitudes. But it's
not clever, not witty, not working, and no disguise. We can see what
you are, plain as day.
And now your panties are all in a wad because I happened to point it
out, that's all.
Scout
May 18, 2012, 12:59:18 AM5/18/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
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> On 5/17/2012 8:07 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
>> news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>
>>>> Sorry
>>
>>> Yes you are.
>>
>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>> words like that, making him
>> look like he said something he didn't really say. YOU are one smart
>> fella!
>>
>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>
> Oh, bullshit. Look up-thread and see who was snipping who's post first,
But was the context of your statements altered such their meaning was
>> Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
>> news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>
>>>> Sorry
>>
>>> Yes you are.
>>
>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>> words like that, making him
>> look like he said something he didn't really say. YOU are one smart
>> fella!
>>
>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>
> Oh, bullshit. Look up-thread and see who was snipping who's post first,
reversed?
I don't think so, you are the one that is that dishonest.
Scout
May 18, 2012, 1:00:52 AM5/18/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
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> On 5/17/2012 9:03 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:FeSdnZ0bI6WZPCjS...@posted.localnet...
>>> Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
>>> news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>>
>>>>> Sorry
>>>
>>>> Yes you are.
>>>
>>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>>> words like that, making him look like he said something he didn't
>>> really say. YOU are one smart fella!
>>>
>>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>>>
>>> Just sayin'....
>>
>> You could already tell that from his rather bigoted and racist
>> remarks....
>
> <laughter> Such as? This ought to be amusing.
Well from above.
>>
>>
>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:FeSdnZ0bI6WZPCjS...@posted.localnet...
>>> Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
>>> news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>>
>>>>> Sorry
>>>
>>>> Yes you are.
>>>
>>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>>> words like that, making him look like he said something he didn't
>>> really say. YOU are one smart fella!
>>>
>>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>>>
>>> Just sayin'....
>>
>> You could already tell that from his rather bigoted and racist
>> remarks....
>
> <laughter> Such as? This ought to be amusing.
***
It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
been a'wantin'!
*****
you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
been a'wantin'!
And now we also have....
> You bigoted, racist troglodytes sure do go around a lot these days,
> smirkingly calling everybody else "bigoted" and "racist," as if it's a
> clever or witty way to obscure your own disgusting attitudes. But it's
> not clever, not witty, not working, and no disguise. We can see what you
> are, plain as day.
max headroom
May 18, 2012, 12:24:40 AM5/18/12
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in news:27GdnXUy7K6AXSjS...@giganews.com:
>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>>> Sorry
>>> Yes you are.
>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's words like that, making him
>> look like he said something he didn't really say. YOU are one smart fella!
>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
> Oh, bullshit. Look up-thread and see who was snipping who's post first,
> you posturing nitwit. You know nothing about morality;...
I know it when I see it, and I don't see it in your post.
>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>>> Sorry
>>> Yes you are.
>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's words like that, making him
>> look like he said something he didn't really say. YOU are one smart fella!
>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
> Oh, bullshit. Look up-thread and see who was snipping who's post first,
I know it when I see it, and I don't see it in your post.
de...@dudu.org
May 18, 2012, 9:07:25 AM5/18/12
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don't get the humor....
>*****
>
>And now we also have....
>
>
>> You bigoted, racist troglodytes sure do go around a lot these days,
>> smirkingly calling everybody else "bigoted" and "racist," as if it's a
>> clever or witty way to obscure your own disgusting attitudes. But it's
>> not clever, not witty, not working, and no disguise. We can see what you
>> are, plain as day.
>
>either or both prove my point.
>
with you, isn't it?
RD Sandman
May 18, 2012, 1:29:31 PM5/18/12
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
news:PN2dnamO1N3v0ijS...@giganews.com:
> On 5/17/2012 12:47 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
email.me:
>>
>>> "max headroom" wrote in message
>>> news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>>>
>>> Dano<janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1@dont-
>>
>>> "max headroom" wrote in message
>>> news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>>>
> On the other hand, there is an untapped market there. I suppose
targets
> featuring exaggeratedly racist and stereotypical images of black
people,
> the darker skinned and thicker lipped the better, dressed in an
> outlandish version of "ghetto" urban style, maybe with one arm around
> the throat of a pretty little white girl and the other holding holding
a
> gun to her head, would be tremendously popular with a certain segment
of
> the shooting public. You know, racists. They would doubtless enjoy
> blazing away at such targets, and derive great satisfaction from that
> bit of simulated wish fulfillment.
Too_Many_Tools
May 18, 2012, 2:15:16 PM5/18/12
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On May 15, 5:38 pm, "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroysoet...@usurper.org>
wrote:
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> journalist.
>
> The seller's advertisement stated, "[We] support Zimmerman and believe he
> is innocent and that he shot a thug." The ad has been taken down.
>
> The station does not identify the "popular firearms auction website" and
> says it has not been able to determine the identify of the seller.
>
> Before the reporter identified himself, the seller said targets were still
> available, afterward saying they would no longer be sold, the station
> writes. The targets cost $8, plus $7.50 shipping.
>
> An attorney for Trayvon's family called the target "disgusting."
>
> "It's a sad certain segment of our society that would think you could make
> a profit off the killing of a teenage boy," said Natale Jackson.
>
> Zimmerman's attorney denounced the targets as "hate-mongering."
>
> "This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility,"
> said Mark O'Mara. "It's this type of hatred -- that's what this is, it's
> hate-mongering -- that's going to make it more difficult to try this
> case."
>
> Zimmerman is being tried for second-degree murder. He is free on bond.
>
> --
> Obama's black racist USAG appointee.
>
> Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
> intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
> ruled by the black man, cracker!"
>
> Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
> hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
>
> Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
> former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
> York's million dollar tax evasion.
>
> Barack Obama and Eric Holder, committed treason by knowingly and
> deliberately arming enemies of the United States of America through
> Operation Fast and Furious. Complicit in the murder of Federal employees
> during the execution of their duties.
>
> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to n...@netfront.net ---
Yet another example of conservatives being the jackasses they are.
TMT
wrote:
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>
> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> revealing the quantity.
>
> The exchange occurred before a WKMG reporter identified himself as a
> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>
> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> revealing the quantity.
>
> journalist.
>
> The seller's advertisement stated, "[We] support Zimmerman and believe he
> is innocent and that he shot a thug." The ad has been taken down.
>
> The station does not identify the "popular firearms auction website" and
> says it has not been able to determine the identify of the seller.
>
> Before the reporter identified himself, the seller said targets were still
> available, afterward saying they would no longer be sold, the station
> writes. The targets cost $8, plus $7.50 shipping.
>
> An attorney for Trayvon's family called the target "disgusting."
>
> "It's a sad certain segment of our society that would think you could make
> a profit off the killing of a teenage boy," said Natale Jackson.
>
> Zimmerman's attorney denounced the targets as "hate-mongering."
>
> "This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility,"
> said Mark O'Mara. "It's this type of hatred -- that's what this is, it's
> hate-mongering -- that's going to make it more difficult to try this
> case."
>
> Zimmerman is being tried for second-degree murder. He is free on bond.
>
> --
> Obama's black racist USAG appointee.
>
> Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
> intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
> ruled by the black man, cracker!"
>
> Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
> hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
>
> Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
> former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
> York's million dollar tax evasion.
>
> Barack Obama and Eric Holder, committed treason by knowingly and
> deliberately arming enemies of the United States of America through
> Operation Fast and Furious. Complicit in the murder of Federal employees
> during the execution of their duties.
>
> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to n...@netfront.net ---
Yet another example of conservatives being the jackasses they are.
TMT
Scout
May 18, 2012, 5:23:39 PM5/18/12
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continue to expose people's lies?
Gunner Asch
May 19, 2012, 12:24:03 PM5/19/12
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>"max headroom" wrote in message
>news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>
>Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>
>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold
>>> on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold
>>> on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
>> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
>
>> =================================
>
>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>> racist scum.
>
>No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of thugs I've
>seen featured burly
>white guys.
>
>================================================
>
>Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
Ayup..really
>
>> =================================
>
>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>> racist scum.
>
>No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of thugs I've
>seen featured burly
>white guys.
>
>================================================
>
>Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
And yes..I do.
Gunner
--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
Gunner Asch
May 19, 2012, 12:26:37 PM5/19/12
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http://www.letargets.com/estylez_ps.aspx?searchmode=category&searchcatcontext=~010000~010140
Just bigoted as hell against the unfortunate
Gunner Asch
May 19, 2012, 12:27:59 PM5/19/12
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Usenet.
Which is why he resides in my killfile, where he cannot contaminate
anything
Gray Guest
May 19, 2012, 1:54:30 PM5/19/12
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp3bkm$9n3$1...@dont-email.me:
> "max headroom" wrote in message
> news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>
> Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon
>>> - martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were
>>> sold on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the
>>> unidentified seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
>> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
>
>> =================================
>
>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>> racist scum.
>
> No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of thugs
> I've seen featured burly
> white guys.
>
>================================================
>
> Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
>
I'm guesssing you have never been to a firing range.
> "max headroom" wrote in message
> news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>
> Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon
>>> - martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were
>>> sold on
>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the
>>> unidentified seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
>> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
>
>> =================================
>
>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>> racist scum.
>
> No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of thugs
> I've seen featured burly
> white guys.
>
>================================================
>
> Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
>
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
Gray Guest
May 19, 2012, 1:59:56 PM5/19/12
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:oeifr756sdihupjuq...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:07:37 -0700, "max headroom"
><maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
>>news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>
>>>> Sorry
>>
>>> Yes you are.
>>
>>Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>>words like that, making him look like he said something he didn't really
>>say. YOU are one smart fella!
>>
>>Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>>
>>Just sayin'....
>>
> Jeffy has been morally bankrupt since the day he first logged onto
> Usenet.
I think his moral banruptcy started long before that.
>
> Which is why he resides in my killfile, where he cannot contaminate
> anything
>
> Gunner
>
> --
> "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
> capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
> It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
> Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
> and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
> such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
> fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
> fools that made him their prince".
news:oeifr756sdihupjuq...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:07:37 -0700, "max headroom"
><maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
>>news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>
>>>> Sorry
>>
>>> Yes you are.
>>
>>Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>>words like that, making him look like he said something he didn't really
>>say. YOU are one smart fella!
>>
>>Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>>
>>Just sayin'....
>>
> Jeffy has been morally bankrupt since the day he first logged onto
> Usenet.
>
> Which is why he resides in my killfile, where he cannot contaminate
> anything
>
> Gunner
>
> --
> "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
> capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
> It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
> Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
> and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
> such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
> fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
> fools that made him their prince".
emoneyjoe
May 19, 2012, 2:02:18 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 09:24:03 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:13:57 -0400, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"max headroom" wrote in message
>>news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>>
>>Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>
>>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold
>>>> on
>>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>
>>> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
>>
>>> =================================
>>
>>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>>> racist scum.
>>
>>No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of thugs I've
>>seen featured burly
>>white guys.
>>
>>================================================
>>
>>Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
>Ayup..really
>
>And yes..I do.
>
>Gunner
How many feet above the target does a bore sighted
1000 fps rifle have to be aimed at 2,000 feet?
wrote:
>On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:13:57 -0400, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"max headroom" wrote in message
>>news:ub2dnZCFPdEXtSjS...@posted.localnet...
>>
>>Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp365g$2eo$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
>>>> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>>
>>>> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold
>>>> on
>>>> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
>>>> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>>
>>> Proof just how dumb rightwingnuts are!
>>
>>> =================================
>>
>>> That's the least of it. It's proof that many are violent, virulent,
>>> racist scum.
>>
>>No, it's affirmative action. Up to now, the only paper targets of thugs I've
>>seen featured burly
>>white guys.
>>
>>================================================
>>
>>Really? You spend a lot of time on firing ranges do you?
>
>Ayup..really
>
>And yes..I do.
>
>Gunner
1000 fps rifle have to be aimed at 2,000 feet?
Gray Guest
May 19, 2012, 2:45:49 PM5/19/12
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Gray Guest
May 19, 2012, 3:14:26 PM5/19/12
to
> How many feet above the target does a bore sighted
> 1000 fps rifle have to be aimed at 2,000 feet?
>
To further clarify:
> 1000 fps rifle have to be aimed at 2,000 feet?
>
Rifles are not rated in feet per second. They are described by caliber,
barrel length and action type.
Specific cartridges can travel at 1000 fps depending on bullet weight,
bullet profile, charge type and weight, length of barrel, etc.
And is 1000 fps at the muzzle, mid trajectory or terminal? The velocity of
a bullet decreases the longer it is flight. This varies by bullet weight
and the ballistic coefficient of the projectile. Some complicated formulas
describe this but nowadays there are dedicated calculating devices with the
equations and data built in.
Is there a head wind or a cross wind? What is the temperature?
2,000 feet, roughly 666.6 yards, 2 feet amd 1.2 inches is a fairly long
shot that only a smallish percentage of shooters could pull off. Or would
even try. Or even have a place to try it.
Furthermore boresight is really more of a verb, it's what you do to sight
in a firearm. A "boresighter" is a device you use to boresight your
firearm. The term I beleive you meant was "zeroed" as in the point at which
a projectile will hit the target at the precise place that the sights are
set for no holdover or holdunder. Of course zero is at whatever range you
want it set at. It can vary, typically from 25 years to 275 yards depending
on the gun, cartridge and it's intended use.
I beleive that some air guns are rated in fps but they have fixed
projectile types: ,177 caliber BBS, .177 or .22 pellets and sometimes
darts. None of which has a prayer of reaching 2000 feet under most
circumstances, not reliably.
You wouldn't look quite so stupid if you confined yourself to posting on
those topics on which you had some background. But then you would never
post.
emoneyjoe
May 19, 2012, 3:44:05 PM5/19/12
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Gray Guest
May 19, 2012, 3:49:08 PM5/19/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:vttfr7ln7qhpl9s5q...@4ax.com:
See my more detailed response.
news:vttfr7ln7qhpl9s5q...@4ax.com:
Dano
May 19, 2012, 4:33:45 PM5/19/12
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"Gray Guest" wrote in message
news:XnsA0588D7FB987FWe...@88.198.244.100...
============================================
Well thank you. It's always swell to see our nation's psychopaths posting
on Usenet instead of murdering and pillaging. Better to have you busy
posting instead of doing actual real world damage.
Another example of a good proud Republican. Or are you a member of the
National Socialist Party?
news:XnsA0588D7FB987FWe...@88.198.244.100...
Well thank you. It's always swell to see our nation's psychopaths posting
on Usenet instead of murdering and pillaging. Better to have you busy
posting instead of doing actual real world damage.
Another example of a good proud Republican. Or are you a member of the
National Socialist Party?
Gray Guest
May 19, 2012, 4:46:12 PM5/19/12
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp9039$k84$1...@dont-email.me:
>============================================
>
> Well thank you. It's always swell to see our nation's psychopaths
posting
> on Usenet instead of murdering and pillaging. Better to have you busy
> posting instead of doing actual real world damage.
>
> Another example of a good proud Republican. Or are you a member of the
> National Socialist Party?
>
>
Piss of ya bigot.
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
>============================================
>
> Well thank you. It's always swell to see our nation's psychopaths
posting
> on Usenet instead of murdering and pillaging. Better to have you busy
> posting instead of doing actual real world damage.
>
> Another example of a good proud Republican. Or are you a member of the
> National Socialist Party?
>
>
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
Scout
May 19, 2012, 5:28:31 PM5/19/12
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Talk about typical stereotyping of your unfortunate aliens and deformed
humans who are always being depicted as evil, dangerous and something to be
shot on sight.
How could you???
I mean really, just take the first example 'Jack & Ellie' a loving touching
moment of interspecies romance and love....and your reaction to do start
shooting at the poor helpless unarmed innocent werewolf simply because he's
strange, different and in love.
How cruel can you be?????
<liberaltalk = /off>
Personally I don't care what they use for targets. If people can't grasp the
difference between a figure on paper and someone in real life...then IMO
they are the ones with a problem.
>
> http://www.letargets.com/estylez_ps.aspx?searchmode=category&searchcatcontext=~010000~010140
>
> Just bigoted as hell against the unfortunate
Yea, it's wrong. We should start a national protest against any use of these
targets. We need to get the ACLU to get an injunction to halt all sales for
stereotyping and profiling. Then we should work on organizing a boycott of
this business and all who buy their products. Finally we can sit around the
camp firing making Smores and singing Kum Ba Ya.
<liberaltalk = /off>
<sanity = restore>
Scout
May 19, 2012, 6:31:04 PM5/19/12
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"emoneyjoe" <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in message
news:5vnfr7plumt0di9ce...@4ax.com...
What bullet caliber?
What bullet weight?
What bullet drag coefficient?
What altitude?
What spin rate?
What temperature?
What relative humidity?
What specific bullet design?
What sort of rifling?
All these factors, and more figure into such a calculation.
As such your question as stated is indeterminate since it lacks the details
necessary for a solution.
I suggest you simply go back to trying to push your illusionary money and
leave gun matters to people who know something about them.
Scout
May 19, 2012, 6:31:47 PM5/19/12
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news:vttfr7ln7qhpl9s5q...@4ax.com...
More than you are clearly aware of.
emoneyjoe
May 19, 2012, 6:39:17 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:49:08 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
I did, thanks.
emoneyjoe
May 19, 2012, 6:58:30 PM5/19/12
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army snipers are training at greater than that.
Scout
May 19, 2012, 7:25:13 PM5/19/12
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Ok...then given that information the amount you have to hold above your
target that is 2000 feet down range would be between zero and infinity
depending upon the specific projectile and conditions that exist at the time
of the shooting.
IOW, the solution is indeterminate.
Oh, and I could prove both ends of that extreme and thus everything in
between would be valid as well.
See what I mean about indeterminate?
The 'answer' is so vast as to be meaningless.
target that is 2000 feet down range would be between zero and infinity
depending upon the specific projectile and conditions that exist at the time
of the shooting.
IOW, the solution is indeterminate.
Oh, and I could prove both ends of that extreme and thus everything in
between would be valid as well.
See what I mean about indeterminate?
The 'answer' is so vast as to be meaningless.
emoneyjoe
May 19, 2012, 8:00:45 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:25:13 -0400, "Scout"
You are becoming an extremist. :-)
Problems like this assume constant velocity,
no wind, etc.
All of the factors other than what I gave
are minor compared to the main one.
Problems like this assume constant velocity,
no wind, etc.
All of the factors other than what I gave
are minor compared to the main one.
Scout
May 19, 2012, 9:44:22 PM5/19/12
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Sorry, but velocity is not constant unless you have a 1000fps tail wind, oh
but you said no wind......
> All of the factors other than what I gave
> are minor compared to the main one.
Bullshit.
I will simply accept you are ignorant on yet another topic.
but you said no wind......
> All of the factors other than what I gave
> are minor compared to the main one.
I will simply accept you are ignorant on yet another topic.
emoneyjoe
May 19, 2012, 11:14:15 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:44:22 -0400, "Scout"
All of the factors you mentioned cause variations
in inches, the question is about the one that can
vary in feet or meters.
in inches, the question is about the one that can
vary in feet or meters.
Scout
May 20, 2012, 1:18:30 AM5/20/12
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Really? Care to make a small bet on that?
Besides those things can add up to a pretty pick difference with 2000 feet
to compound in. The difference between a hit and a miss.
Anyway, it's clear you really have no idea of what you're talking about, so
who cares what you think now?
Besides those things can add up to a pretty pick difference with 2000 feet
to compound in. The difference between a hit and a miss.
Anyway, it's clear you really have no idea of what you're talking about, so
who cares what you think now?
emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 1:32:57 AM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 01:18:30 -0400, "Scout"
Talk about wives bitching.
RD Sandman
May 20, 2012, 12:53:36 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:focgr71r1sig66383...@4ax.com:
In a vacuum? Why are all the factors ones which will never occur when
shooting at 1000 yards? Velocity is not constant, trajectory is not
constant, no wind or air movement anywhere in that 1000 yards will not
happen.
> All of the factors other than what I gave
> are minor compared to the main one.
What do you think that is?
--
If you are trying find a laundry detergent that removes bloodstains
from clothing......perhaps, the problem is not your detergent...
You need to find a new circle of friends!!!
Sleep well, tonight.....
RD (The Sandman)
news:focgr71r1sig66383...@4ax.com:
shooting at 1000 yards? Velocity is not constant, trajectory is not
constant, no wind or air movement anywhere in that 1000 yards will not
happen.
> All of the factors other than what I gave
> are minor compared to the main one.
--
If you are trying find a laundry detergent that removes bloodstains
from clothing......perhaps, the problem is not your detergent...
You need to find a new circle of friends!!!
Sleep well, tonight.....
RD (The Sandman)
RD Sandman
May 20, 2012, 12:55:18 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:49ogr752fmsa2aigg...@4ax.com:
At a thousand yards, many round's ballistics are measured in feet or
meters.
news:49ogr752fmsa2aigg...@4ax.com:
meters.
RD Sandman
May 20, 2012, 12:56:19 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:5f0hr7tskkcjupavv...@4ax.com:
Have you ever even looked at a ballistics chart?
news:5f0hr7tskkcjupavv...@4ax.com:
Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 1:30:42 PM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:46:12 +0000 (UTC), Gray Guest
<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp9039$k84$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>============================================
>>
>> Well thank you. It's always swell to see our nation's psychopaths
>posting
>> on Usenet instead of murdering and pillaging. Better to have you busy
>> posting instead of doing actual real world damage.
>>
>> Another example of a good proud Republican. Or are you a member of the
>> National Socialist Party?
>>
>>
Dano seems to forget that National Socialism is on the same side of the
<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:jp9039$k84$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>============================================
>>
>> Well thank you. It's always swell to see our nation's psychopaths
>posting
>> on Usenet instead of murdering and pillaging. Better to have you busy
>> posting instead of doing actual real world damage.
>>
>> Another example of a good proud Republican. Or are you a member of the
>> National Socialist Party?
>>
>>
fence as regular socialism (and Marxism) and Progressiveism/Liberalism.
Which means a Republican would never fit over there on the Left with
National Socialism
Shrug
But then..thats Dano..just another far leftwing extremist fringe kook.
Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 1:39:38 PM5/20/12
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Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 1:39:22 PM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:02:18 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
2000 feet what? Distance or elevation?
What is the BC of the bullet?
What is the bullets weight?
Boattail or flat based? At 1000 fps..one could assume a ball?
Open sight or scope? Height above bore of the scope?
Air temperature? And barametric pressure?
wrote:
What is the BC of the bullet?
What is the bullets weight?
Boattail or flat based? At 1000 fps..one could assume a ball?
Open sight or scope? Height above bore of the scope?
Air temperature? And barametric pressure?
Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 1:43:04 PM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:58:30 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
Actually..you gave far too little information. One has to know what sort
of tools one is using. You could have described anything from a pellet
gun to a handgun, or a black powder rifle.
wrote:
of tools one is using. You could have described anything from a pellet
gun to a handgun, or a black powder rifle.
Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 1:45:40 PM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 23:14:15 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
Actually..you didnt give enough information to start the calculations.
Shrug
wrote:
Shrug
de...@dudu.org
May 20, 2012, 3:28:39 PM5/20/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:23:39 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
><de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
>news:kaicr7tv6uopn9sj8...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 01:00:52 -0400, "Scout"
>>>> On 5/17/2012 9:03 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:FeSdnZ0bI6WZPCjS...@posted.localnet...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>>>>>> words like that, making him look like he said something he didn't
>>>>>> really say. YOU are one smart fella!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just sayin'....
>>>>>
>>>>> You could already tell that from his rather bigoted and racist
>>>>> remarks....
>>>>
>>>> <laughter> Such as? This ought to be amusing.
>>>
>>>Well from above.
>>>
>>>***
>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>been a'wantin'!
>>>
>> He's mocking you, moron. It's sarcasm. Look it up. Just because you
>> don't get the humor....
>>
>>>*****
>>>
>>>And now we also have....
>>>
>>>
>>>> You bigoted, racist troglodytes sure do go around a lot these days,
>>>> smirkingly calling everybody else "bigoted" and "racist," as if it's a
>>>> clever or witty way to obscure your own disgusting attitudes. But it's
>>>> not clever, not witty, not working, and no disguise. We can see what
>>>> you
>>>> are, plain as day.
>>>
>>>either or both prove my point.
>>>
>> It prove once again you are an uneducated idiot. It's always the same
>> with you, isn't it?
>
>Translation: Scout is almost always right and keeps proving it. Will he
>continue to expose people's lies?
>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
Got bad news for you dumbass: you are NEVER right. You have always
been wrong about everything. Your life is nothing but a lie.
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
><de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
>news:kaicr7tv6uopn9sj8...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 01:00:52 -0400, "Scout"
>> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
>>>news:l6CdnT1hzI8SXijS...@giganews.com...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
>>>> On 5/17/2012 9:03 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:FeSdnZ0bI6WZPCjS...@posted.localnet...
>>>>>> Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
>>>>>> news:O42dnfLNYYv4CyjS...@giganews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/17/2012 6:18 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>>>>>>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>>>>>>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>>>>>>> been a'wantin'!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hahaha... that is soooo clever, what you did there, snipping Scout's
>>>>>> words like that, making him look like he said something he didn't
>>>>>> really say. YOU are one smart fella!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, it also indicates you're morally bankrupt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just sayin'....
>>>>>
>>>>> You could already tell that from his rather bigoted and racist
>>>>> remarks....
>>>>
>>>> <laughter> Such as? This ought to be amusing.
>>>
>>>Well from above.
>>>
>>>***
>>> It's yur own durn fault, Scut. I toldya not ta spend all the money
>>> you stole offen' yur granny's purse on Old Milwaukees 'n'
>>> Marlboros. Now you cain't afferd none of them nigra targets you
>>>been a'wantin'!
>>>
>> He's mocking you, moron. It's sarcasm. Look it up. Just because you
>> don't get the humor....
>>
>>>*****
>>>
>>>And now we also have....
>>>
>>>
>>>> You bigoted, racist troglodytes sure do go around a lot these days,
>>>> smirkingly calling everybody else "bigoted" and "racist," as if it's a
>>>> clever or witty way to obscure your own disgusting attitudes. But it's
>>>> not clever, not witty, not working, and no disguise. We can see what
>>>> you
>>>> are, plain as day.
>>>
>>>either or both prove my point.
>>>
>> It prove once again you are an uneducated idiot. It's always the same
>> with you, isn't it?
>
>Translation: Scout is almost always right and keeps proving it. Will he
>continue to expose people's lies?
>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
Got bad news for you dumbass: you are NEVER right. You have always
been wrong about everything. Your life is nothing but a lie.
Scout
May 20, 2012, 4:35:04 PM5/20/12
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<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:3ehir7paq8u67ioai...@4ax.com...
> Got bad news for you dumbass: you are NEVER right. You have always
> been wrong about everything. Your life is nothing but a lie.
emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 4:49:17 PM5/20/12
to
vacuum if you like, the question is about
only the vertical aspect, a lot of rifles are
capable of shooting at a half mile.
>> All of the factors other than what I gave
>> are minor compared to the main one.
>
>What do you think that is?
emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 4:50:27 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 4:58:07 PM5/20/12
to
2000 feet or longer?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080927204455AAzlCcY
I don't know why any mystery exists.
Scout
May 20, 2012, 4:59:16 PM5/20/12
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news:t1mir75as9jnd76qs...@4ax.com...
IOW, you're not interested in a real answer for your problem.
You're simply looking for an answer from a grade school text on gravity.
You're simply looking for an answer from a grade school text on gravity.
emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 5:04:37 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 10:39:22 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
In a vacuum, none of the above matters.
RD Sandman
May 20, 2012, 6:13:05 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:t1mir75as9jnd76qs...@4ax.com:
But they won't be shooting in a vacuum which makes your statement part of
that vacuum.
>>> All of the factors other than what I gave
>>> are minor compared to the main one.
>>
>>What do you think that is?
>
> No more hints.
Good.
news:t1mir75as9jnd76qs...@4ax.com:
that vacuum.
>>> All of the factors other than what I gave
>>> are minor compared to the main one.
>>
>>What do you think that is?
>
> No more hints.
RD Sandman
May 20, 2012, 6:13:59 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:a7mir7t1so4vn3hvt...@4ax.com:
Perhaps because no one gives a damn about your question anymore.
news:a7mir7t1so4vn3hvt...@4ax.com:
RD Sandman
May 20, 2012, 6:29:49 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:t9mir7d551qdpbrl9...@4ax.com:
Depending on the weapon, yes.
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080927204455AAzlCcY
>
> I don't know why any mystery exists.
Do you think that those ballistics shown in that cite are in a vacuum?
news:t9mir7d551qdpbrl9...@4ax.com:
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080927204455AAzlCcY
>
> I don't know why any mystery exists.
RD Sandman
May 20, 2012, 6:30:41 PM5/20/12
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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
news:00nir754lrnqee2gl...@4ax.com:
It does if gravity still exists.
news:00nir754lrnqee2gl...@4ax.com:
Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 7:45:22 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 16:50:27 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
Because you are asking for a cake with frosting, yet are only supplying
fire, a pot and flour.
Please supply the rest of the requested data and I shall provide the
drop table data
wrote:
fire, a pot and flour.
Please supply the rest of the requested data and I shall provide the
drop table data
Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 7:48:45 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 17:04:37 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
Standard gravity? 32fps/per second?
You did state a vacuum, where none of that length exists on Earth.
And bullet weight is still unanswered as is scope or iron sights and
distance above bore
Please supply the data and Ill provide the drop tables
You did state a vacuum, where none of that length exists on Earth.
And bullet weight is still unanswered as is scope or iron sights and
distance above bore
Please supply the data and Ill provide the drop tables
emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 9:01:21 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 16:59:16 -0400, "Scout"
I would have no use for a real answer.
>You're simply looking for an answer from a grade school text on gravity.
I guess.
>You're simply looking for an answer from a grade school text on gravity.
pyotr filipivich
May 20, 2012, 9:24:25 PM5/20/12
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sun, 20 May 2012 10:43:04 -0700
typed in misc.survivalism the following:
1,000 lf/sec is 681.1 mph.. Give or take.
All things considered, I'd say that it would depend on the
definition of "foot" that is uses. Standard, survey, metric, or
customary? So I'd say - about that much. Maybe more.
--
pyotr filipivich
Old farts these days - not like when I was a boy! We used to
have us Real Geezers in those days! Now, they'll let anybody
with a little gray hair be an old fart!
typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>
>>>>
>>>> How many feet above the target does a bore sighted
>>>> 1000 fps rifle have to be aimed at 2,000 feet?
>>>
>>>Bore sighted at what range?
>>>
>>>What bullet caliber?
>>>
>>>What bullet weight?
>>>
>>>What bullet drag coefficient?
>>>
>>>What altitude?
>>>
>>>What spin rate?
>>>
>>>What temperature?
>>>
>>>What relative humidity?
>>>
>>>What specific bullet design?
>>>
>>>What sort of rifling?
>>>
>>>All these factors, and more figure into such a calculation.
>>>
>>>As such your question as stated is indeterminate since it lacks the details
>>>necessary for a solution.
>>>
>>>I suggest you simply go back to trying to push your illusionary money and
>>>leave gun matters to people who know something about them.
>>
>> I gave enough information, 2000 feet range,
>>army snipers are training at greater than that.
>
>Actually..you gave far too little information. One has to know what sort
>of tools one is using. You could have described anything from a pellet
>gun to a handgun, or a black powder rifle.
Power source would seem to me, to be less relevant. 1000 fps is
>>>>
>>>> How many feet above the target does a bore sighted
>>>> 1000 fps rifle have to be aimed at 2,000 feet?
>>>
>>>Bore sighted at what range?
>>>
>>>What bullet caliber?
>>>
>>>What bullet weight?
>>>
>>>What bullet drag coefficient?
>>>
>>>What altitude?
>>>
>>>What spin rate?
>>>
>>>What temperature?
>>>
>>>What relative humidity?
>>>
>>>What specific bullet design?
>>>
>>>What sort of rifling?
>>>
>>>All these factors, and more figure into such a calculation.
>>>
>>>As such your question as stated is indeterminate since it lacks the details
>>>necessary for a solution.
>>>
>>>I suggest you simply go back to trying to push your illusionary money and
>>>leave gun matters to people who know something about them.
>>
>> I gave enough information, 2000 feet range,
>>army snipers are training at greater than that.
>
>Actually..you gave far too little information. One has to know what sort
>of tools one is using. You could have described anything from a pellet
>gun to a handgun, or a black powder rifle.
1,000 lf/sec is 681.1 mph.. Give or take.
All things considered, I'd say that it would depend on the
definition of "foot" that is uses. Standard, survey, metric, or
customary? So I'd say - about that much. Maybe more.
--
pyotr filipivich
Old farts these days - not like when I was a boy! We used to
have us Real Geezers in those days! Now, they'll let anybody
with a little gray hair be an old fart!
emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 9:43:40 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 16:45:22 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
I can't, because I don't have a gun, my aunt's
pellet gun that won't go through corrugated card-
board won't shoot 2000 feet.
pellet gun that won't go through corrugated card-
board won't shoot 2000 feet.
emoneyjoe
May 20, 2012, 9:51:18 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 16:48:45 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
I think I already stated level ground.
Bullet weight doesn't matter (much) :-)
in a vacuum.
I think a scope would be needed at
that distance, and a laser, and whatever
device on the market for measuring distance
optically.
I found an article on fairly recent long
distant sniper successes interesting, that
must be a morale buster.
Bullet weight doesn't matter (much) :-)
in a vacuum.
I think a scope would be needed at
that distance, and a laser, and whatever
device on the market for measuring distance
optically.
I found an article on fairly recent long
distant sniper successes interesting, that
must be a morale buster.
Too_Many_Tools
May 20, 2012, 10:39:26 PM5/20/12
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On May 15, 5:38 pm, "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroysoet...@usurper.org>
wrote:
> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>
> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> revealing the quantity.
>
> The exchange occurred before a WKMG reporter identified himself as a
> journalist.
>
> The seller's advertisement stated, "[We] support Zimmerman and believe he
> is innocent and that he shot a thug." The ad has been taken down.
>
> The station does not identify the "popular firearms auction website" and
> says it has not been able to determine the identify of the seller.
>
> Before the reporter identified himself, the seller said targets were still
> available, afterward saying they would no longer be sold, the station
> writes. The targets cost $8, plus $7.50 shipping.
>
> An attorney for Trayvon's family called the target "disgusting."
>
> "It's a sad certain segment of our society that would think you could make
> a profit off the killing of a teenage boy," said Natale Jackson.
>
> Zimmerman's attorney denounced the targets as "hate-mongering."
>
> "This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility,"
> said Mark O'Mara. "It's this type of hatred -- that's what this is, it's
> hate-mongering -- that's going to make it more difficult to try this
> case."
>
> Zimmerman is being tried for second-degree murder. He is free on bond.
>
> --
> Obama's black racist USAG appointee.
>
> Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
> intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
> ruled by the black man, cracker!"
>
> Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
> hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
>
> Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
> former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
> York's million dollar tax evasion.
>
> Barack Obama and Eric Holder, committed treason by knowingly and
> deliberately arming enemies of the United States of America through
> Operation Fast and Furious. Complicit in the murder of Federal employees
> during the execution of their duties.
>
> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to n...@netfront.net ---
You mean no more Gabrielle Giffords gun targets?
How about "The Little Girl Who Was Killed" gun targets...did all the
conservatives buy those out too?
TMT
wrote:
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/trayvon-
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
> The paper targets do not show Trayvon's face but include a box of Skittles
> martin-hoodie-gun-targets-reportedly-sell-out/1#.T62r6-hSRnc
>
> Shooting targets featuring Trayvon Martin's hooded sweatshirt were sold on
> a gun auction site "to make money off the controversy," the unidentified
> seller told Orlando TV station WKMG.
>
> and a beverage, which the 17-year-old bought before being shot and killed
> in February during a confrontation with George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
>
> Two unidentified Florida gun dealers bought some targets, the seller said
> in an email exchange. "I sold out in 2 days," the seller wrote, without
> revealing the quantity.
>
> The exchange occurred before a WKMG reporter identified himself as a
> journalist.
>
> The seller's advertisement stated, "[We] support Zimmerman and believe he
> is innocent and that he shot a thug." The ad has been taken down.
>
> The station does not identify the "popular firearms auction website" and
> says it has not been able to determine the identify of the seller.
>
> Before the reporter identified himself, the seller said targets were still
> available, afterward saying they would no longer be sold, the station
> writes. The targets cost $8, plus $7.50 shipping.
>
> An attorney for Trayvon's family called the target "disgusting."
>
> "It's a sad certain segment of our society that would think you could make
> a profit off the killing of a teenage boy," said Natale Jackson.
>
> Zimmerman's attorney denounced the targets as "hate-mongering."
>
> "This is the highest level of disgust and the lowest level of civility,"
> said Mark O'Mara. "It's this type of hatred -- that's what this is, it's
> hate-mongering -- that's going to make it more difficult to try this
> case."
>
> Zimmerman is being tried for second-degree murder. He is free on bond.
>
> --
> Obama's black racist USAG appointee.
>
> Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
> intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
> ruled by the black man, cracker!"
>
> Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
> hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
>
> Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
> former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
> York's million dollar tax evasion.
>
> Barack Obama and Eric Holder, committed treason by knowingly and
> deliberately arming enemies of the United States of America through
> Operation Fast and Furious. Complicit in the murder of Federal employees
> during the execution of their duties.
>
> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to n...@netfront.net ---
You mean no more Gabrielle Giffords gun targets?
How about "The Little Girl Who Was Killed" gun targets...did all the
conservatives buy those out too?
TMT
max headroom
May 20, 2012, 10:53:44 PM5/20/12
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Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ee1dddeb-af86-4aa3...@a13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> You mean no more Gabrielle Giffords gun targets?
> How about "The Little Girl Who Was Killed" gun targets...did all the
> conservatives buy those out too?
> TMT
Those are only sold in gunshops that distribute "progressive" literature. You know, like the one you
frequent.
news:ee1dddeb-af86-4aa3...@a13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> You mean no more Gabrielle Giffords gun targets?
> How about "The Little Girl Who Was Killed" gun targets...did all the
> conservatives buy those out too?
> TMT
frequent.
Scout
May 20, 2012, 11:34:22 PM5/20/12
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"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jo2jr7lt67npo7ib4...@4ax.com...
aim to obtain a hit on a target 2000 feet down range.
For example. You have BB guns that deliver 1000 fps muzzle velocities...but
guess what... a BB at that speed isn't going to even get to 2000 feet under
normal conditions across level ground.
Nope, what emoron is asking is a simplistic grade school gravity problem
where all other real world factors are ignored except for gravity.
I can only assume this is because emoron never got past grade school math.
Scout
May 20, 2012, 11:54:11 PM5/20/12
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news:a7mir7t1so4vn3hvt...@4ax.com...
I've given you one. Just look above.
"Ok...then given that information the amount you have to hold above your
target that is 2000 feet down range would be between zero and infinity
depending upon the specific projectile and conditions that exist at the time
of the shooting."
If you don't like the answer then give me some additional parameters so I
can narrow down the solution to something less....broad.
Can't expect a precise answer with only a few of the needed conditions being
defined.
"Ok...then given that information the amount you have to hold above your
target that is 2000 feet down range would be between zero and infinity
depending upon the specific projectile and conditions that exist at the time
of the shooting."
can narrow down the solution to something less....broad.
Can't expect a precise answer with only a few of the needed conditions being
defined.
Gunner Asch
May 20, 2012, 11:54:24 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:43:40 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All of the factors you mentioned cause variations
>>>>> in inches, the question is about the one that can
>>>>> vary in feet or meters.
>>>>
>>>>At a thousand yards, many round's ballistics are measured in feet or
>>>>meters.
>>>
>>> So why is there no answer yet for 2000 feet?
>>
>>Because you are asking for a cake with frosting, yet are only supplying
>>fire, a pot and flour.
>>
>>Please supply the rest of the requested data and I shall provide the
>>drop table data
>>
>>Gunner
>
> I can't, because I don't have a gun, my aunt's
>pellet gun that won't go through corrugated card-
>board won't shoot 2000 feet.
>
It probably fires around 350-500 fps. Depending on the projectile
type..it might...might go 1500 feet..if fired at a 47.5 degree upwards
angle (most effective angle for long distance flight +/-)
You do know that Im a published author on interior and exterior
ballistics..right?
Id be more than happy to help you out with some numbers if you give me
the data I need to do the computations.
Exterior ballistics is indeed a science. Its been well researched for
400 yrs and many many breakthrus have been made in the last 150 yrs.
But I must have at minimum:
Velocity at the muzzle
Bullet weight
Type of bullet
Range desired data on
I can give you a "general" approximation of where and when the round
will be at any point in its flight with that data
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All of the factors you mentioned cause variations
>>>>> in inches, the question is about the one that can
>>>>> vary in feet or meters.
>>>>
>>>>At a thousand yards, many round's ballistics are measured in feet or
>>>>meters.
>>>
>>> So why is there no answer yet for 2000 feet?
>>
>>Because you are asking for a cake with frosting, yet are only supplying
>>fire, a pot and flour.
>>
>>Please supply the rest of the requested data and I shall provide the
>>drop table data
>>
>>Gunner
>
> I can't, because I don't have a gun, my aunt's
>pellet gun that won't go through corrugated card-
>board won't shoot 2000 feet.
>
type..it might...might go 1500 feet..if fired at a 47.5 degree upwards
angle (most effective angle for long distance flight +/-)
You do know that Im a published author on interior and exterior
ballistics..right?
Id be more than happy to help you out with some numbers if you give me
the data I need to do the computations.
Exterior ballistics is indeed a science. Its been well researched for
400 yrs and many many breakthrus have been made in the last 150 yrs.
But I must have at minimum:
Velocity at the muzzle
Bullet weight
Type of bullet
Range desired data on
I can give you a "general" approximation of where and when the round
will be at any point in its flight with that data
Scout
May 20, 2012, 11:55:30 PM5/20/12
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news:t9mir7d551qdpbrl9...@4ax.com...
Sure, there are generic charts what will give you an idea of what you might
be looking at....but they generally involve having some idea about the
external ballistics, which you assert are irrelevant.
be looking at....but they generally involve having some idea about the
external ballistics, which you assert are irrelevant.
Scout
May 20, 2012, 11:57:09 PM5/20/12
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news:ct4jr7hcem2kkhpl0...@4ax.com...
That I understand, since you wouldn't have the capacity to apply it anyway.
>
>>You're simply looking for an answer from a grade school text on gravity.
>
> I guess.
I know.
Stay in school, maybe some day you might graduate go to college and learn
some more advanced math.
>
>>You're simply looking for an answer from a grade school text on gravity.
>
> I guess.
Stay in school, maybe some day you might graduate go to college and learn
some more advanced math.
Scout
May 20, 2012, 11:58:33 PM5/20/12
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news:00nir754lrnqee2gl...@4ax.com...
Wrong. Parallax errors are an issue whether one is in atmosphere or a
vacuum.
vacuum.
Gunner Asch
May 21, 2012, 12:00:41 AM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:51:18 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
Bullet weight matters at least 50% of the equation, as velocity is aprox
the other 50%. Bullet nose (meplat), base configuration are all critical
and changing data points that have serious impacts in the actual flight
of a projectile..but they can be "approximated"..which means the farther
out your go..the more "error" will be added.
And most rifle bullets travel at minimum...(not counting rimfires of
course)...2500 fps. The M16 round travels aprox 3750 fps...but is fairly
light so it has much less range than does say..a 168gr boattail from a
.308 fired at 2750fps.
Here..let me demonstrate...
>
>
> I found an article on fairly recent long
>distant sniper successes interesting, that
>must be a morale buster.
>
>
>
>
>
the other 50%. Bullet nose (meplat), base configuration are all critical
and changing data points that have serious impacts in the actual flight
of a projectile..but they can be "approximated"..which means the farther
out your go..the more "error" will be added.
>
> I think a scope would be needed at
>that distance, and a laser, and whatever
>device on the market for measuring distance
>optically.
Its only 666.6 yards. Shrug..its not all that far.
> I think a scope would be needed at
>that distance, and a laser, and whatever
>device on the market for measuring distance
>optically.
And most rifle bullets travel at minimum...(not counting rimfires of
course)...2500 fps. The M16 round travels aprox 3750 fps...but is fairly
light so it has much less range than does say..a 168gr boattail from a
.308 fired at 2750fps.
Here..let me demonstrate...
>
>
> I found an article on fairly recent long
>distant sniper successes interesting, that
>must be a morale buster.
>
>
>
>
>
Too_Many_Tools
May 20, 2012, 11:18:03 PM5/20/12
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On May 20, 9:53 pm, "max headroom" <maxheadr...@localnet.com> wrote:
Well some fool has to.
Laugh..laugh...laugh...
TMT
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:ee1dddeb-af86-4aa3...@a13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > You mean no more Gabrielle Giffords gun targets?
> > How about "The Little Girl Who Was Killed" gun targets...did all the
> > conservatives buy those out too?
> > TMT
>
> Those are only sold in gunshops that distribute "progressive" literature. You know, like the one you
> frequent.
Still paying retail I see.
>
> > You mean no more Gabrielle Giffords gun targets?
> > How about "The Little Girl Who Was Killed" gun targets...did all the
> > conservatives buy those out too?
> > TMT
>
> Those are only sold in gunshops that distribute "progressive" literature. You know, like the one you
> frequent.
Well some fool has to.
Laugh..laugh...laugh...
TMT
Scout
May 21, 2012, 12:09:05 AM5/21/12
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"RD Sandman" <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:XnsA0599AF5D...@216.196.121.131...
>>>>>>>Ok...then given that information the amount you have to hold above
>>>>>>>your target that is 2000 feet down range would be between zero and
>>>>>>>infinity depending upon the specific projectile and conditions that
>>>>>>>exist at the time
>>>>>>>of the shooting.
zero gravity in a vacuum (and no I don't mean just free fall)...to being
beyond the range the projectile can travel in those conditions.
After all....look at the conditions set when I answered.
Any type of projectile, through any medium from a perfect vacuum to the
strongest solid object, in any gravitational condition, with any sort of
external ballistics from perfect to a stabilized pie pan (ie maximum frontal
area producing maximum drag for the weight).
With that range of conditions...what can the answer be except zero to
infinity?
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