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Barry Lynch
Apr 21, 2022, 10:45:02 PM4/21/22
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George Zimmerman claims he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense
Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder
The defense was presenting its case Tuesday
SANFORD, Fla. — Evidence supports George Zimmerman's claim that
Trayvon Martin was on top of him when Zimmerman fired the shot that
claimed Trayvon's life, a forensic pathologist testified Tuesday at
Zimmerman's murder trial.
"The medical evidence is consistent with Mr. Zimmerman's statement,"
said Vincent Di Maio, an expert witness for the defense. The
pathologist also found that Trayvon lived no more than three minutes
after the shooting and probably was conscious for at least 10 to15
seconds.
Di Maio also testified that Zimmerman's head injuries could have
been caused by coming into contact with concrete and that such
injuries can be very dangerous. That testimony supported Zimmerman's
claim that Trayvon was slamming his head into a sidewalk.
Under questioning from prosecutors, however, Di Maio admitted he
primarily focused on a statement Zimmerman gave police — and a
statement by Zimmerman neighbor John Good that Trayvon was on top of
Zimmerman.
Di Maio testified that he did not take into account several
witnesses who said Zimmerman was the aggressor in the struggle. He
also said, when pressed, that Zimmerman's injuries could have been
caused by rolling around on concrete with Trayvon.
Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, later grilled Sanford City
Manager Norton Bonaparte about his decision to play 911 calls from
the night of shooting for Trayvon's family in a group setting. A day
earlier, former Sanford police chief Bill Lee testified that he
recommended the tapes be played to family members individually to
avoid improper influences.
At issue was whether it was Trayvon or Zimmerman heard screaming for
help in one of the tapes.
"We thought it was a courtesy to let the family hear it before it
was on the news," Bonaparte said. "We were not looking at them as
witnesses. We were looking at them as family members."
Zimmerman, 29, is charged with second-degree murder in the February
2012 shooting. The neighborhood watch volunteer says he acted in
self-defense when he shot and killed Trayvon, 17, minutes after
calling police to report that he was following a suspicious person
in the gated community.
Speculation that Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, profiled, followed and
murdered the black teen sparked racial controversy and protests
around the country last year. Zimmerman, who faces life in prison if
convicted, has maintained that race did not factor into his actions.
Before the jury entered the courtroom Tuesday, Judge Debra Nelson
held a hearing to determine whether jurors will see a computer
animation created by a defense witness. She will give her ruling on
the matter Wednesday morning.
Mark O'Mara says the animation presents the fact that Trayvon Martin
was shot at a 90-degree angle and supports the way the defense
believes the shooting happened.
"We know animations are very admissible and often used," O'Mara
said.
Daniel Schumaker, who created the animation, testified that he has
worked on scores of criminal cases, often creating animated crime
scene reconstructions using photographs, measurements and motion
capture suits.
Schumaker got involved in the Zimmerman case in April 2012 after a
meeting with defense attorneys. Soon after, he visited the community
where the shooting occurred, looked at crime scene photos and used
police measurements from that night, he testified. He also got
witness statements, 911 calls and diagrams drawn by residents who
saw parts of the struggle before the shooting.
"I believe I had everything I needed to create the scene," Schumaker
said.
Assistant State Attorney Richard Mantei argued that the animation
does not "represent a complete or accurate record of the evidence."
Mantei wrote in court papers that the state thinks the animation is
"speculative and irrelevant." It also doesn't accurately depict the
lighting on the night of the shooting, "deliberately fails to show
or even symbolize the murder weapon," and relies on Zimmerman's
version of events for the positioning of bodies during the struggle,
Mantei said.
The state prosecutor argued that the animation, if admitted, would
be "prejudicial and confusing to the jury."
Zimmerman's attorneys also want text messages and photos found on
Trayvon's phone admitted as evidence. The text messages discuss
Trayvon being sore after winning several rounds of a fight,
Zimmerman's attorney, Don West said. Trayvon also discussed buying a
gun and took pictures of a hand holding a gun, West says.
State prosecutors say there's no way of proving Trayvon sent the
text messages or took the photos. They also argue that the
information from the cellphone doesn't have anything to do with the
shooting and Trayvon's death.
Nelson will also rule on whether cellphone texts and photos can be
admitted Wednesday morning.
The announcement came after Nelson and attorneys held court for more
than 12 hours Tuesday.
The defense also could present witnesses to discuss the level of
marijuana found in Trayvon's system at the time of his death. Nelson
ruled Monday that the jury will learn about a toxicology report.
State attorneys had tried to keep the information out of trial,
arguing that the amount of marijuana was minimal and would prejudice
the jury.
However, Zimmerman's attorneys succeeded in arguing that the report
was important and would give the jury insight into the night of the
shooting.
Shiping Bao, the medical examiner who did the autopsy of Trayvon,
said he believes the marijuana may have had some effect on the teen.
He initially thought the amount of drugs didn't have an impact but
later changed his opinion and now believes the drugs had an effect.
Now, Bao, who testified for the state last week, may be called to
testify for the defense.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/09/george-
zimmerman-trayvon-martin--marijuana/2501293/
George Zimmerman claims he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense
Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder
The defense was presenting its case Tuesday
SANFORD, Fla. — Evidence supports George Zimmerman's claim that
Trayvon Martin was on top of him when Zimmerman fired the shot that
claimed Trayvon's life, a forensic pathologist testified Tuesday at
Zimmerman's murder trial.
"The medical evidence is consistent with Mr. Zimmerman's statement,"
said Vincent Di Maio, an expert witness for the defense. The
pathologist also found that Trayvon lived no more than three minutes
after the shooting and probably was conscious for at least 10 to15
seconds.
Di Maio also testified that Zimmerman's head injuries could have
been caused by coming into contact with concrete and that such
injuries can be very dangerous. That testimony supported Zimmerman's
claim that Trayvon was slamming his head into a sidewalk.
Under questioning from prosecutors, however, Di Maio admitted he
primarily focused on a statement Zimmerman gave police — and a
statement by Zimmerman neighbor John Good that Trayvon was on top of
Zimmerman.
Di Maio testified that he did not take into account several
witnesses who said Zimmerman was the aggressor in the struggle. He
also said, when pressed, that Zimmerman's injuries could have been
caused by rolling around on concrete with Trayvon.
Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, later grilled Sanford City
Manager Norton Bonaparte about his decision to play 911 calls from
the night of shooting for Trayvon's family in a group setting. A day
earlier, former Sanford police chief Bill Lee testified that he
recommended the tapes be played to family members individually to
avoid improper influences.
At issue was whether it was Trayvon or Zimmerman heard screaming for
help in one of the tapes.
"We thought it was a courtesy to let the family hear it before it
was on the news," Bonaparte said. "We were not looking at them as
witnesses. We were looking at them as family members."
Zimmerman, 29, is charged with second-degree murder in the February
2012 shooting. The neighborhood watch volunteer says he acted in
self-defense when he shot and killed Trayvon, 17, minutes after
calling police to report that he was following a suspicious person
in the gated community.
Speculation that Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, profiled, followed and
murdered the black teen sparked racial controversy and protests
around the country last year. Zimmerman, who faces life in prison if
convicted, has maintained that race did not factor into his actions.
Before the jury entered the courtroom Tuesday, Judge Debra Nelson
held a hearing to determine whether jurors will see a computer
animation created by a defense witness. She will give her ruling on
the matter Wednesday morning.
Mark O'Mara says the animation presents the fact that Trayvon Martin
was shot at a 90-degree angle and supports the way the defense
believes the shooting happened.
"We know animations are very admissible and often used," O'Mara
said.
Daniel Schumaker, who created the animation, testified that he has
worked on scores of criminal cases, often creating animated crime
scene reconstructions using photographs, measurements and motion
capture suits.
Schumaker got involved in the Zimmerman case in April 2012 after a
meeting with defense attorneys. Soon after, he visited the community
where the shooting occurred, looked at crime scene photos and used
police measurements from that night, he testified. He also got
witness statements, 911 calls and diagrams drawn by residents who
saw parts of the struggle before the shooting.
"I believe I had everything I needed to create the scene," Schumaker
said.
Assistant State Attorney Richard Mantei argued that the animation
does not "represent a complete or accurate record of the evidence."
Mantei wrote in court papers that the state thinks the animation is
"speculative and irrelevant." It also doesn't accurately depict the
lighting on the night of the shooting, "deliberately fails to show
or even symbolize the murder weapon," and relies on Zimmerman's
version of events for the positioning of bodies during the struggle,
Mantei said.
The state prosecutor argued that the animation, if admitted, would
be "prejudicial and confusing to the jury."
Zimmerman's attorneys also want text messages and photos found on
Trayvon's phone admitted as evidence. The text messages discuss
Trayvon being sore after winning several rounds of a fight,
Zimmerman's attorney, Don West said. Trayvon also discussed buying a
gun and took pictures of a hand holding a gun, West says.
State prosecutors say there's no way of proving Trayvon sent the
text messages or took the photos. They also argue that the
information from the cellphone doesn't have anything to do with the
shooting and Trayvon's death.
Nelson will also rule on whether cellphone texts and photos can be
admitted Wednesday morning.
The announcement came after Nelson and attorneys held court for more
than 12 hours Tuesday.
The defense also could present witnesses to discuss the level of
marijuana found in Trayvon's system at the time of his death. Nelson
ruled Monday that the jury will learn about a toxicology report.
State attorneys had tried to keep the information out of trial,
arguing that the amount of marijuana was minimal and would prejudice
the jury.
However, Zimmerman's attorneys succeeded in arguing that the report
was important and would give the jury insight into the night of the
shooting.
Shiping Bao, the medical examiner who did the autopsy of Trayvon,
said he believes the marijuana may have had some effect on the teen.
He initially thought the amount of drugs didn't have an impact but
later changed his opinion and now believes the drugs had an effect.
Now, Bao, who testified for the state last week, may be called to
testify for the defense.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/09/george-
zimmerman-trayvon-martin--marijuana/2501293/
Rudy Canoza
Apr 21, 2022, 11:18:32 PM4/21/22
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On 4/21/2022 7:41 PM, Barry Lynch wrote:
> Key Points
>
> George Zimmerman claims he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense
He didn't. He initiated the fight. Zimmerman was the aggressor.
> Key Points
>
> George Zimmerman claims he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense
max headroom
Apr 22, 2022, 9:22:42 AM4/22/22
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In news:b8p8K.342159$Lbb6....@fx45.iad, Rudy Canoza <notg...@gmail.com>
typed:
Present the evidence the prosecution lacked.
typed:
Klaus Schadenfreude
Apr 22, 2022, 9:23:46 AM4/22/22
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